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post Sep 25 2025, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(imin @ Sep 25 2025, 10:07 PM)
Better than Hipro veltorQ V9 Sae 5W-40 4L? I just put it into my exora bold, and oh my the engine runs very smooth. My exora's ODO is around 120k. First time I tried it. Btw Hipro seems like a legit brand as it has its own factory
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Yes initially i was going to try hipro V9 5w40. Then suddenly saw this valvoline protect already able to get in malaysia, so i bought this valvoline instead. I was looking at this and even inquire to get overseas since 2 years ago. But shipping fees too expensive.

Hipro is very legit and should be very good.
Engine runs very smooth compare to?
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post Sep 25 2025, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 25 2025, 11:21 PM)
No such thing la. Mechanical parts does not works that way. If service interval of 10k works well, then it gonna works forever unless there are parts due to wear and tear.
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Only if everythg else stays the same, which it doesnt.
Thats why engines last longer with faster oil change intervals.

Case in point, which u can see with engine that equips with low tension piston rings. These engines usually by 100k km already having high oil consumptions. With 10k km oil change intervals, 50k mileage engine still ok. So by your logic its gonna last forever? No.
But if these engines undergoes oil change 5k km intervals, its still ok far after 100k km.

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post Sep 26 2025, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 25 2025, 11:55 PM)
100k km is chicken shit nowadays. I have been maintaining 2 of my parents cars, 2002 and 2006 cars, both hitting over 300k km, no issue at all. 2002 5k interval follow manual, 2006 10k interval follow manual too. Seriously, no a single shit problem like eating engine oil and etc.

And guess what, the 2006 engine with more than 300k km mileage is still using 0w20 oil. There are multiple 'genius' foremen I had met throughout the years that keep telling shits like 'old car must use high viscosity oil to protect old engine'. As usual, I don't give a f on them and until today my ca3 got no issue.

Keypoint is, maintain your car as per manual and don't skip any maintenance. And don't stinge on buying fake oils or unknown branded oil. Remember, it's MECHANICAL.
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Ermm...this is not due to mechanical. This is due to oil degradation due to high mileage.

U have two data points and your argument is it still works. It will be better if u open up the engine and see how much varnishes is inside the engine, that would be more convincing. But if thats too hard for u, u can see around the world. Learn from others experiences and discoveries.

Not all engines running 300k km with 10k intervals will have issues. Not all engines running 300k km with 5k intervals will not have issues. But there are more issues with 10k intervals than 5k km intervals.

And don't be bias towards data given to u or just shut your eyes to the discoveries done by those people working on the engines. Even the famed nissan gtr engine builder says 5k km with normal genuine oil is better than the best 10k km genuine oil. That gotta have some weigh to it. Take it in, dont be bias to your views due to two data only.

And dont disregarding the issues with low piston rings having issues after 100k km with 10k km mileage intervals. More issues with low piston rings because its weaker hence the symptoms shows up more. Means there are issues with 10k km and it accelerates more if its more of city drive.

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post Sep 26 2025, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 26 2025, 12:53 AM)
but varnishes doesn't harm engine at all. its normal for any engine to have some varnish
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Ya varnish doesnt harm the engine. However if u can see varnishes, those prone to carbon deposit areas like at the piston rings and piston oil passage ways almost guaranteed to have some degree of carbon. The longer it goes, the more carbon will slowly build up.

The varnish just shows that there are carbon developing in the engine.
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post Sep 26 2025, 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 26 2025, 01:33 AM)
Thats what engine oil is suppose to do. remove the carbon by continuous flow. Any engine oil can do this, no need special 'cleaning' oil.
Heck, even Bold Oil is enough lol.
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I see..Let me rephrase that bolded part. Instead of the varnish show carbon is developing in the engine, its supposed to be the varnish shows that carbon is not fully cleaned from the engine. There will be accumulation of carbon if it continues.


Hmmm. How do i make it clearer.. varnishes means there were deposits, hence it changes color even on the metal. Means not 100% clean all. Those exposed parts away from hotspots will be ok due to the varnishes cannot get thicker as the oil is still capable. But those super hot and tight spaces, the carbon is baked and it will slowly build up there. Especially at the piston rings lands.
Dont have to take my word for it...research abit on 10k oil change practices and see what they find. There were reports on gunk forming, especially on mostly city drive.

And yes even bold is enough, as long as u dont drive 10k km in city. My car having oil consumption due to previous owner do prolong oil change intervals. Its was over 1L initially. When i got it, i change every 5k km and it slowly improves. Now its consuming around 400-500ml.

Anyway, those varnishes u see on high mileage engine, it can be clean until silver shining back with the valvoline protect.

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post Sep 26 2025, 04:19 AM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 26 2025, 03:35 AM)
I agree with gunk forming in tight spaces around piston rings, I use this video as reference :

But this was caused by 10,000 MILES oil change interval, not KM!

As the guy says, change your oil every 5000 MILES (not KM) or 6 months, and you will have no problems

(this advice is for Toyota engines only)
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Yeah angmoh land 10000 miles, even toyota reliable engines die fast. And they have stretches and stretches of long roads.

In malaysia roads, i have seen engine rebuilds that changes oil at 10000km and talked to the mechanics. 10000km will have varnishes and some gunk especially if mostly driven on town. I have seen the insides of malaysian's cars engines, hence i always recommend people to change earlier. If wan to use the cars for 9 years or 200k km, i think can just follow the 10k km if written on their manual book.

Btw my friend's vw arteon engine, 3rd year, below
30k mileage already started consuming oil 1L/5000km. And its normal on these engines too. 10000km oil change intervals. And VW says its normal to consume oil lol. Many having these issues until its already the norm. Confirm not engine cylinder walls worn as its using low tension piston rings. Those rings confirm stuck by carbon. Even with just abit of carbon it will get those low tension rings stuck easily. This is the proof of carbon forming at the pistons with 10000km in malaysia. Normal piston rings will be able to retain its function longer.
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post Sep 26 2025, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Sep 26 2025, 06:33 AM)
Kinda disagree. Most car with using fully synthetic no issues to take it till 10k km interval, hnece most Japanese brand put it at there. Conti brand with a more environment conscious thing, make it till 15k km interval (by using fully synthetic), also no issue.

Had car with 380k km with 10k-13k km service intervals, no issues. Just make sure if got oil diminished after sometimes, it must be due to leak somewhere, like valve cover gasket or major at flywheel oil seal. Repair that, then no problem in a long run
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Not all will have issues, but more issues with 10k km. If cars with low tension piston rings, 100k km already almost all facing eating engine oil.
Lots of issues, maybe u are not aware. Go to vw, bmw, audi group and check out. Oil consumption has become a 'non issue' because its already considered 'normal'.
My friend's vw arteon 3 years old, 30k+ km, 10k oil change intervals. Already consuming engine oil.
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post Sep 26 2025, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Sep 26 2025, 10:44 AM)
TS' engine probably full of debris from using too much recycled crap that now need to stick back to expensive EO in hopes of restoration.
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Wrong. Its improving in my hand.
Fact is previous owner didnt take care much and its consuming engine oil at more than 1L/5000km.
When i got it, i change engine oil every 5000km. Now its only consuming 400-500ml/5000km.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Sep 26 2025, 09:59 AM)
come to think of it, I might repack back , say, bold EO into fake valvoline bottle

still can make some decent $  cool2.gif
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Weiiii dont laaaaa
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post Sep 26 2025, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 26 2025, 10:18 AM)
Can share shop name?
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There is only 1 seller selling valvoline restore and protect in shopee.i bought it from him.
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post Sep 26 2025, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Sep 26 2025, 02:43 PM)
Some how H with 1.5t will have increase due to slight dilution oil
My ketam run 144k km no drop at all
Now G10 115k also no drop
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Because the honda 1.5T is using low tension piston rings. These rings much easier to get stuck with just some carbon.
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post Oct 10 2025, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2025, 09:58 AM)
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Picture taken for my x70 ckd, which use stock engine oil from Proton SC, from new till warranty ended. They use Shell Helix Ultra 5w40 for 5L.

Mileage taken at 93k km
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Looks very clean so far, for your driving style n changing in 10000km, this looks ok. How many km per month? City/highway ratio?

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Just wondering this part is it varnish or leftover engine oil? Based on the shape, it looks like varnish. Anyway the most severe part will be at the piston ringlands...since that is hottest.
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post Oct 10 2025, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2025, 09:56 AM)
As read from another thread discuss about engine oil, we can only know if the engine oil are indeed good by oil analysis taken from  the used engine oil, where a through details, parameters are shown.
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People did bring the valvoline restore n protect for oil analysis before. The oil nothing special, even the detergents are just normal values compared to other fs oil.
However already many reviews said it works in helping reduce blowby and oil consumption s, in forums and youtubes all got document their findings. Valvoline engineer said they have special formulation in their addictives, however the oil analysis will look normal only unlike their first version of vrp which uses lots of ester to clean super aggressively until it clog up the oil filter too fast.
If u have abit of varnish in your dipstick, u just need to see the dipstick gets cleaner.
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post Oct 10 2025, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Oct 10 2025, 06:26 AM)
So bro how's the oil? Seems tht VRP, good for LSPi T engines;
Your driving style is considered "severe service," and here’s why this oil is an excellent match for those conditions.

Why Stop-and-Go Driving is So Hard on Your Engine:

1. More Frequent Low-Speed Pre-Ignition (LSPI) Risk: Your 1.5T engine is constantly accelerating from a stop (high load at low RPM), which is the prime condition for LSPI—a major killer of turbocharged engines. Valvoline Restore & Protect is specifically formulated to protect against this.
2. Increased Fuel Dilution: In short-trip driving, the engine rarely reaches its optimal operating temperature for a sustained period. This can lead to unburned fuel leaking past the piston rings and contaminating the oil (a known issue with direct injection engines like yours). This thins the oil and reduces its lubricity. A robust synthetic oil resists this breakdown better.
3. More Engine Wear: Most engine wear happens during cold starts and at low operating temperatures. Your driving pattern consists of many "mini" cold starts and prolonged low-temperature operation.
4. Heat Buildup: Sitting in traffic with the engine running creates significant heat without the strong airflow from driving at speed, putting stress on the oil.

How Valvoline Restore & Protect Specifically Helps:

· Superior Anti-Wear Additives: The "Protect" side of the formula provides an extremely strong film strength that protects engine components even during the frequent low-RPM, high-load acceleration of stop-and-go traffic.
· LSPI Protection: As mentioned, this is its flagship feature for turbo engines and is perfectly suited to your driving style.
· Thermal Stability: It resists thinning out and breaking down under the high heat loads generated in traffic.
· Cleaning Power: It helps prevent the formation of sludge and deposits that can be accelerated by fuel dilution and frequent short trips.

Crucial Recommendation: Shorten Your Oil Change Interval

Given your "severe service" driving conditions, the most important thing you can do—even more important than the brand of oil—is to change your oil more frequently.

· Honda's "Normal" Service Interval: Might be around 10,000-15,000 km.
· Your "Severe Service" Interval Should Be: Every 5,000 - 7,000 km, or every 6 months, whichever comes first.

The restorative and protective additives in the oil get used up over time. In your demanding driving environment, they deplete faster. Changing the oil more often ensures those additives are always fresh and active, protecting your engine.

Final, Tailored Recommendation:

1. Product: Valvoline Restore & Protect High Mileage Full Synthetic 5W-30. The extra seal conditioners and anti-wear additives are ideal for your high-mileage, high-stress driving.
2. Interval: Change it every 6,000 km. This is a safe, effective interval for your usage. Don't wait for 10,000 km.

By using this high-quality oil and adhering to a shorter change interval, you are giving your Accord's turbocharged engine the best possible defense against the harsh reality of daily stop-and-go traffic. This is the perfect strategy for long-term reliability
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It might be me just being bias, but my engine slight ticking noise seems to get quieter after 500km? Im not too sure since its just 700km so far. My engine inside looks super clean since i always change 5000km, so cannot use sight to check also.
I think most obvious thing i can check is my oil consumption rate since i have been monitoring it since last time. Currently 700km i cannot see any changes in oil consumption so far. Previously using 5w40, now is 5w30.
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post Oct 10 2025, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Oct 10 2025, 10:44 AM)
Haha so short intervals, so no need restore also.
I plan to also get it soon as price same/cheaper as getting Honda Ori oils
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Im restoring what the previous owner did. When i got the car, the oil consumption was over 1L per 5000km. Previous owner change oil every 10000km.
Now the oil consumption is 300ml-400ml per 5000km after many cycles of using bold engine oil and changing it every 5000km. And this level no more improve. So now i am trying this valvoline restore.
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post Oct 10 2025, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2025, 10:46 AM)
I did changed to Shopee Mall engine oil which they advertised with PAO + Ester. If it indeed clean agressively (due to PAO + Ester), I will repeat this.
If this bold parts are similar to Shell Helix Malaysia version where they advertised it as "Untuk Pasaran Malaysia" where most known no technical changes for the oil vs other region.

For analysis parts, hopefully there are one who done it on the Petrol version. Cz some brand advertised their Fuel are the bestest vs others, some mentioned put double additive vs recommended, while some offer the best for their 97 Ron.
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No la, the bolded part is not like for pasaran malaysia.
Their first version is restore blue. Super aggressive cleaning, can clean all in 1 cycle but than have filter clogged issue. So their change formula to this, need 4x cycle for same effect but wont clog the oil filter.
Valvoline claim for restore n protect also seems quite sceptical at first, but after using it many found it to be true.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2025, 10:50 AM)
first 2 years, very low mileage. after that, for the past 3 years, can get almost 10k km per 6 months. I would say most of times at city drive and only about once a months for long distance drive (4-5 hours distance). At highway, will put it 140-160kmh as consistent as possible.
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Wah u quite high mileage can finish 10k in 6 months. I only 5k in 6 months. Since u have super long distance once a month, i think yours no issue 10k km / 6 month cycle.

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post Oct 13 2025, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(Coldf3ar @ Oct 13 2025, 10:06 AM)
my car can use ah? normally use petronas syntium 3000
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Can je.
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post Oct 13 2025, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Oct 13 2025, 02:33 PM)
But this valvoline doesnt look like PAO+Ester blend at all. From the safety data sheet composition , it looks more like ordinary group 3 base oil.
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If this is group 4 PAO base oil, then the data sheet will look more like this:
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I think its the combination of ingredients with good chemistry that makes it work so well. Many did analyse the oil using lab analysis and it looks like normal oil only.
Anyway, even premium brands with group V esters couldnt clean as well as this valvoline. In fact no brand manage to clean the piston rings. This is proven when cars with low tension piston rings use this valvoline the oil consumption and blowby drop drastically. Not to mention few people even compared cylinder compression before and after. Cars with oil consumption issue increase compression after using.
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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Oct 13 2025, 02:38 PM)
Not sure how clean TS wants his engine internals to be. For me just go the easy route, choose a good quality, genuine engine oil that I can afford to OC often and easily buy off the shelf; the shell ultra 5w-40 from teso/lotuss giant etc.

Been using it on this car till now 420k km and still no oil consumption (consumed a little before valve seals). Pic was during valve seal change at 400k km mileage. Clean enough for me.

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If your oil have no oil consumption issue, then no need i think.
Mine consuming oil 1L+ every 5000km when i bought the car. They said its normal for type R engine with over 200k km mileage.
But after i change every 5000km with fs engine oil for many cycles, the oil consumption reduces to 300-400ml per 5000km.
Hence i think still can improve and try using this valvoline.

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