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post Sep 9 2025, 07:33 AM, updated 3 months ago

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MSG lebih berkhasiat dalam makanan berbanding garam.

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real MD doctor or just someone just put dr?
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QUOTE(TongPakFu Dim Kristy @ Sep 9 2025, 07:52 AM)
Pagi² already want make pisang angry issit?
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I also recently started using MSG instead of salt at home in my cooking as it has less sodium.
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tapi bila sakit kena guna ubat dari negara barat.....

bila makan...kecam negara barat.....

suka suka ikut, suka suka kecam....

this is what i call....very very "sound" science.....


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post Sep 9 2025, 08:38 AM

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actually what's the point of no MSG when you dump a whole packet of salt/sugar into the dish?
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 9 2025, 08:38 AM)
actually what's the point of no MSG when you dump a whole packet of salt/sugar into the dish?
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MSG isn't universally "better" than salt, but it offers a way to reduce overall sodium intake while enhancing flavor due to its lower sodium content (about 12% vs. 40% in table salt) and its ability to boost umami.

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QUOTE(Heroicage @ Sep 9 2025, 08:03 AM)
tapi bila sakit kena guna ubat dari negara barat.....

bila makan...kecam negara barat.....

suka suka ikut, suka suka kecam....

this is what i call....very very "sound" science.....
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post Sep 9 2025, 08:43 AM

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Msg is extra, not as salt substitute. Salt is really good at bringing out the flavor of the ingredients

Those who bitch about salt likely load themselves up with carbs lol
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Sep 9 2025, 07:39 AM)
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But MSG make my throat dry up, need to drink loads of water...
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salt and MSG is two different shit

do you even chemistry bro?
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Sep 9 2025, 08:46 AM)
salt and MSG is two different shit

do you even chemistry bro?
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MSG contain sodium (salt) also...in very little amount
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gram for gram....MSG contains less sodium than salt. Also, glutamate is easily metabolized into water and energy by body.

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QUOTE(Ayer @ Sep 9 2025, 08:43 AM)
Msg is extra, not as salt substitute. Salt is really good at bringing out the flavor of the ingredients

Those who bitch about salt likely load themselves up with carbs lol
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QUOTE(vassilius @ Sep 9 2025, 08:45 AM)
But MSG make my throat dry up, need to drink loads of water...
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Having too much sodium will cause high blood pressure as you get older.

MSG is less sodium compare to salt. If you cannot take moderate, MSG offers less sodium.

Both will cause your throat dry up and drink more water.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 9 2025, 08:59 AM)
Having too much sodium will cause high blood pressure as you get older.

MSG is less sodium compare to salt. If you cannot take moderate, MSG offers less sodium.

Both will cause your throat dry up and drink more water.
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MSG is only 1/4 saltiness of table salt gram for gram

so to achieve same saltiness with MSG, you need to add shit load of MSG
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I also pelik. They say msg rosak otak. But i see chinese ok je. Pandai.
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why people think MSG is bad?
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QUOTE(h4r8_kIlLeR @ Sep 9 2025, 09:02 AM)
I also pelik. They say msg rosak otak. But i see chinese ok je. Pandai.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Sep 9 2025, 08:46 AM)
salt and MSG is two different shit

do you even chemistry bro?
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Salt is sodium chloride.
MSG is monosodium glutamate, so yes, both contain sodium, and people are advised to reduce the sodium in their diets.
While both have sodium, they don't have it in equal amounts
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QUOTE(h4r8_kIlLeR @ Sep 9 2025, 09:02 AM)
I also pelik. They say msg rosak otak. But i see chinese ok je. Pandai.
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 9 2025, 09:07 AM)
Salt is sodium chloride.
MSG is monosodium glutamate, so yes, both contain sodium, and people are advised to reduce the sodium in their diets.
While both have sodium, they don't have it in equal amounts
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well, sodium chloride and sodium bicarbonate also both have sodium
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Sep 9 2025, 07:39 AM)
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Sep 9 2025, 09:03 AM)
why people think MSG is bad?
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MSG is controversial beause in a 60’s a guy went to a Chinese restaurant in USA, and decided that if he wasn’t digesting his meal properly it was because of MSG.

No studies nothing, just a letter saying that MSG was the culprit! Talk about science based evidence…
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QUOTE(vassilius @ Sep 9 2025, 08:45 AM)
But MSG make my throat dry up, need to drink loads of water...
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Thats the problem.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Sep 9 2025, 09:08 AM)
well, sodium chloride and sodium bicarbonate also both have sodium
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Despite having "sodium" in its name, monosodium glutamate contains only 12.28 grams of sodium per 100 grams. That's about one-third of the sodium found in table salt (39.34 grams/100 grams).

If you replace 1/2 teaspoon of table salt with the same amount of MSG, you'll reduce the sodium content in your food by about 37%, without losing much flavor.

As a home cook, that means using MSG could help enhance the perception of saltiness while reducing the actual sodium content in your food.

Which is the reason for substituting salt with MSG for those who need to reduce salt in their diet.
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MSG=bad. meanwhile, sugar, garam. cheese meleleh=Sihat.
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MSG, salt and sugar are basically concentrated essence/ umami of a food/ liquid.

it's plain stupid to judge MSG. too much MSG will cause thirsty, then how about too much salt and sugar? will still make your food salty and sweet, after that will you drink water? undeniable MSG will make food taste better in a way, but those are no skill chef's work. this only prove that people who doesn't know how to cook but wanna act vert knowledgeable. shakehead.gif

all ingredients should be use in moderate way to create a better flavor.
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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Sep 9 2025, 09:10 AM)
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If u use Ajinomoto then is ok.

If u use cheapskate that sell in Pasar. Rm10 for dunno how big pack. Then it is problem

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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Sep 9 2025, 09:35 AM)
If u use Ajinomoto then is ok.

If u use cheapskate that sell in Pasar. Rm10 for dunno how big pack. Then it is problem
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1kg - Salt RM2.50 vs MSG RM15.

Better profits & cheaper to use salt, no?
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 9 2025, 09:15 AM)
Despite having "sodium" in its name, monosodium glutamate contains only 12.28 grams of sodium per 100 grams. That's about one-third of the sodium found in table salt (39.34 grams/100 grams).

If you replace 1/2 teaspoon of table salt with the same amount of MSG, you'll reduce the sodium content in your food by about 37%, without losing much flavor.

As a home cook, that means using MSG could help enhance the perception of saltiness while reducing the actual sodium content in your food.

Which is the reason for substituting salt with MSG for those who need to reduce salt in their diet.
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THIS, MSG generally contains 30% salt. so in comparison to foods that let say you put full salt vs MSG only, the MSG ones win in terms of flavor and less salt consumption too

but dont fear salt, salt is important for your body to function. the only difference is moderation is key, the dose maketh the poison.

QUOTE(cycheah @ Sep 9 2025, 09:33 AM)
MSG, salt and sugar are basically concentrated essence/ umami of a food/ liquid.

  it's plain stupid to judge MSG. too much MSG will cause thirsty, then how about too much salt and sugar? will still make your food salty and sweet, after that will you drink water?  undeniable MSG will make food taste better in a way, but those are no skill chef's work. this only prove that people who doesn't know how to cook but wanna act vert knowledgeable. shakehead.gif

  all ingredients should be use in moderate way to create a better flavor.
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the stupidest thing is they kept correlating this "chinese restaurant syndrome" to MSG but ignoring other variables that caused them to feel "thirsty" after eating

which usually IMO these fuks dont drink enough water or they drink those sweet ass drinks or they eating other salty ass foods

not to mention the issue thanks to all these "garbled scientific studies" in first place, they kept thinking salt = bad, but without salt your body gonna be FUCKED. these people will complain about foods high in salt but munch on shit like potato chips doh.gif
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 9 2025, 09:46 AM)
1kg - Salt RM2.50 vs MSG RM15.

Better profits & cheaper to use salt, no?
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worry then use natural MSG loh

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Common substitutes include dried shiitake mushrooms, nutritional yeast, parmesan cheese, kombu (dried kelp), tomato paste, soy sauce, and fermented fish sauce.
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Sep 9 2025, 09:03 AM)
why people think MSG is bad?
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because of research flaws back then

Many studies use extremely high doses of MSG (e.g., 1800–30,000 mg/kg/day) that far exceed levels humans consume in food.

Administration Route:
MSG is often administered through gavage (forced tube feeding), subcutaneous, or intraperitoneal injection, which is not relevant to how humans consume MSG through food.

Methodological Flaws:
Studies are often conducted without adherence to Good Laboratory Practice (GLP), lack adequate control groups, or use small numbers of animals.
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 9 2025, 09:46 AM)
1kg - Salt RM2.50 vs MSG RM15.

Better profits & cheaper to use salt, no?
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Which garam better? Himalaya pink salt?
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masakan melayu tak guna msg?
dunno la, usually i cook my stir fry vege all the time with msg, baru can eat.
garam alone didnt help.

if i want to go garam route, maybe i need to add something like gula, baru jadi kot.

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QUOTE(Mattrock @ Sep 9 2025, 07:57 AM)
I also recently started using MSG instead of salt at home in my cooking as it has less sodium.
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how much MSG you put in? same amount as you put salt previously? why not just put less salt?

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QUOTE(knwong @ Sep 9 2025, 07:33 AM)
MSG lebih berkhasiat dalam makanan berbanding garam.

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if it is stir fry, abit of msg is to make food taste better. if it is curry, rendang, soup and masak lemak, MSG can keep already coz there is alot of spice, meat, bawang and stuffs already.
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QUOTE(brkli @ Sep 9 2025, 11:33 AM)
how much MSG you put in? same amount as you put salt previously? why not just put less salt?
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About same amount, but it also adds a good taste, which salt does not.
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QUOTE(knwong @ Sep 9 2025, 11:24 AM)
Which garam better? Himalaya pink salt?
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whats wrong with msg? its part of 5 human taste.

dont go overboard with MSG is the key. samething dont go too sweet or salty with food.

Im against anti MSG. they dont understand that use at appropriate amount is the key.
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QUOTE(cycheah @ Sep 9 2025, 09:33 AM)
MSG, salt and sugar are basically concentrated essence/ umami of a food/ liquid.

  it's plain stupid to judge MSG. too much MSG will cause thirsty, then how about too much salt and sugar? will still make your food salty and sweet, after that will you drink water?  undeniable MSG will make food taste better in a way, but those are no skill chef's work. this only prove that people who doesn't know how to cook but wanna act vert knowledgeable. shakehead.gif

  all ingredients should be use in moderate way to create a better flavor.
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salt mana ada umami??
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Dulu masa belajar kimia SPM topik ubat, cikgu ada cakap pasal sindrom restoran cina. Berlaku sbb banyak restoran guna MSG berlebihan.
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QUOTE(brkli @ Sep 9 2025, 11:33 AM)
how much MSG you put in? same amount as you put salt previously? why not just put less salt?
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When you get older, your sense of taste is get weak. That cause you to eat stronger-tasting food.
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QUOTE(sp3d2 @ Sep 9 2025, 12:11 PM)
whats wrong with msg? its part of 5 human taste.

dont go overboard with MSG is the key. samething dont go too sweet or salty with food.

Im against anti MSG. they dont understand that use at appropriate amount is the key.
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The problem is when this stupid people misunderstand, they replace it with salt. But not the amount.

When the amount of salt is the same as that replaced, that increases the sodium intake.




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QUOTE(norazwan79 @ Sep 9 2025, 12:30 PM)
Dulu masa belajar kimia SPM topik ubat, cikgu ada cakap pasal sindrom restoran cina. Berlaku sbb banyak restoran guna MSG berlebihan.
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Cikgu ajar fakta kimia atau perkara2 lain?
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 9 2025, 01:05 PM)
The problem is when this stupid people misunderstand, they replace it with salt. But not the amount.

When the amount of salt is the same as that replaced, that increases the sodium intake.
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that is even more dangerous right? overdose of salt.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 9 2025, 08:59 AM)
Having too much sodium will cause high blood pressure as you get older.

MSG is less sodium compare to salt. If you cannot take moderate, MSG offers less sodium.

Both will cause your throat dry up and drink more water.
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Also sodium retains water, need to be mindful for certain patients.
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Yes MSG will make food taste better and saltier or sweeter than it is. In this way, you actually will use less salt or sugar.
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QUOTE(norazwan79 @ Sep 9 2025, 12:30 PM)
Dulu masa belajar kimia SPM topik ubat, cikgu ada cakap pasal sindrom restoran cina. Berlaku sbb banyak restoran guna MSG berlebihan.
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Chinese restaurant syndrome has been debunked and is now considered not a medical condition. Decades of testing and research is not able to prove that MSG sensitivity is real.
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MSG pun boleh racing?????
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QUOTE(knwong @ Sep 9 2025, 03:33 PM)
Cikgu ajar fakta kimia atau perkara2 lain?
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Cikgu saya chinese la.
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QUOTE(mick84 @ Sep 9 2025, 04:16 PM)
MSG pun boleh racing?????
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