this is the 4th time i mention APPLE is getting downfall since 3 years ago.


(3 years ago ) Stagnant Innovation ( but APPLE EV Still in making, the Vision PRO also in rumour )
(2 years ago ) Apple EV. not delay. nope. Scraped. rumor invest more than $10B!!! But Vision Pro released.
(1 years ago ) Apple SIRI become Apple Silly. defy all the APPLE logic... with their supreme Privacy Prority approach, they let OpenAI access all the APPLE user daily interaction...

Now.

Iphone 16 almost expired. ( ip17 launch nearing )

THe Biggest PROMISED Iphone 16 features ( Apple Intelligent , which can do alot magic ) Is still un-delivered.

watch this 2min interview.

they sound so noob.

Even some new founded China AI Company already has very capable model that challenge top ranking AI like z.ai, deepseek. not to mention those from Alibaba(qwen), baidu, tencent, even TIKTOK has very powerful model.

Clearly apple has past it peak. not yet 6pm. but they are now at 2~3pm.


The next big tech market no longer Consumer.
is Job Market.

Job Market provide Income for Consumer, Consumer = Biggest Spender. Consume = Big Market
But Next 10 years?

Tech company aim DIRECTLY at the source of "Money", Job Market.
Consumer electronic is no longer hotcake business.

AI that capable to enter JOB market directly = Biggest Money Printer for Tech Company.

because they hire alot of indian programmers?

Fengshui putar halim.

Ye la tu

Why you come back after "heat can make you fly" fiasco?

let's face it, recently apple promise a lot but delivered very little

they go tell the world about AirPower and say how good it was. then delay delay last last cancel jugak

same thing with their apple intelligence now

This post has been edited by DarkAeon: Sep 4 2025, 02:04 PM

TS better spend more energy to worry about unpromised things from Madani la

Steve will chew them up if he hears this kind of excuses.

Idk why people who downplay apple love to skip all apple silicon and how apple basically have total dominance in the laptop industry, especially for working professionals. All the working professionals I know who works in a company all have macbooks by their company, except one who is an accountant.

This post has been edited by whyamiblack: Sep 4 2025, 02:15 PM

Heat makes u fly

i think Apple only hire Best Programmers.


i dont know about APPLE.

but cheapstake company like GRAB?
you know why they can hire the best?

hire (not senior) Programmer position. they need few only but best. -- offer = SGD$8000.
3500 candidate start gradiator movie outside Grab office.

Wait next week September 9/10 event and see again

The hardware doing relatively well

Can’t deny software side have been a mess the past few years

Deswai I think John Ternus will eventually replace Tim, not Craig

Combustion + further Heated Air(expand it) + then Compressed Chamber (to build extreme pressure PSI )

when release = Mega Thurst

which is the energy source of most flying object on earth with JET Engine.
same apply to missile, rocket too. except heli


This is not some SPM 9D people can comprehend.

you think the wing shape make it fly????
try install on your back. you can fly or not?

This post has been edited by ifourtos: Sep 4 2025, 02:18 PM

apart form probably can last longer , nothing special in apple products nowadays , not to mention the camera on the screen quite ugly too ! dont understand why they like to do that , people only one dot and they make it into a hotdog shape , macbook air also the same, knn, look at the screen suddenly see a moustache

dupe

This post has been edited by ifourtos: Sep 4 2025, 02:17 PM

epal: lu tak sukak lu beli ccp phone or exshitnos.

Apple Software team has more hope than MAdani

When you hey Siri, ask a question, then it ask is it ok to forward to chatGPT, really potong steam....... not something Steve Job will allow!

Try running a local LLM on a windows laptop, you'll find out you'll need to spend at least 8-10k for something competent that you could do on a macbook air. Furthermore, apple's transition of using ARM based chip on laptop went smooth. There's no such laptop in the market for windows, let alone one at a price that makes sense. We haven't even gotten to power management and on-battery performance yet.

The founder manipulate people network by tapping, now you see the downfall of a wicked people

work related ok lar, but ordinary people just buy it because feel more glamour, apple mar ,bring to starbuck also feel more lansi, after all they use it to watch youtube tik tok only !

TOTALLY NONSENSE.
TOTALLY NONSENSE.


You need NPU, or AI core or GPU core to run LLM. Not the ARM arch CPU.

what makes Apple SoC has advantage is their Unified Memory.

CPU GPU Share same RAM.

and you are wrong. Apple Macbook AIR with 16GB may able to run LLM because its 16GB RAM can be consider "vram" to feet the GPU on same die.
Windows laptop cant do that. unless the Laptop has a 16GB GPU.

But the SPEED is also bullshit.

And that's the whole point. Apple knows their audience. Bottom line, they're not going anywhere.

Exactfuckingly. That's the whole problem. Maybe for you the speed is bullshit but most 16b q4 models are competitive enough and not as stupid as an 7-8b models. 20-25 tps? Most people will take it. Remember, it's a frickin laptop and it ticks the entire laptop boxes. Power management, plenty of power you could even run 3d softwares, mind you, ON-BATTERY. Not some shitty windows solution of being on battery by limiting power. Oh and this is just the macbook air. People who actually need hardwares aren't given macbook airs by their company.

This post has been edited by whyamiblack: Sep 4 2025, 02:38 PM

only thing i like Apple is software, their M chips

Talk so much yet in china, apple shop full house





Just took these photos yesterday

Apple just lied about Apple Intelligence.

Unfortunately not many people care about AI on their phone. On laptop and tablet, ChatGPT is available…. No need Apple Intelligence.

even more kek is if you knew how much companies are actually paying to buy equivalent specced commercial windows laptops they would prolly shaddup and sit at corner

what phone kenot self rotate

Which human kenot rotate photos?

This post has been edited by sexysarah1992: Sep 4 2025, 02:55 PM

Apple Intelligence simply promised too much but delivers very little…

Google pixel with Gemini is far ahead already…

This post has been edited by swanlover: Sep 4 2025, 02:57 PM

ahh the thrust guy

TC is cooked for sure.

He was supposed to follow Job's plan for the company but decided to put cost and profits first instead design and engineering.

Numbers man cannot be a CEO. Not visionary enough.

Ppl are not given macbook airs by their company is because Malaysia Apple dont have onsite support service for warranty claims unlike other countries like Australia. No IT team here will want to help you send your macbook to service center to claim warranty if anything goes wrong. And definitely the machine wont get fixed in 1 business day. Long downtime is the main issue for IT dept side.
And yes , even macbooks can die. Battery bloated, the bloat will break the chassis/screw mounts and break the keyboard. That is what i hv encountered many times.

lol. meanwhile their shares keep going up up.

ts sourgrape missing the boat.

Boss busy lickiing Trumpet boots while the engineering buat bodoh

it is a very good example why when Apple Intelligent failed so HARD....
Apple still not worry.


Look at the hardcore apple fan.

Apple Fan. Intelligent. Apple Fan? Intelligent?

Alright.

Apple Top Exec. we dont need Apple Intelligent.

You are just a piece of human shit who a DIE HARD support to evil cult, child rapist, and evil group that create abomination by use teen girl as toy and gift among its member to give birth more toys and slave to expand the cult.



Even see you reply my treat. i lost appetite. so disgust.

you still keep the janggut of the cult elder?

Bos dont kecam so hardcore… Tesla woso now stagnating 👀

CCP EV battery tech leap and bound potong teslak edi… margin of superiority to other ev co getting smaller

apple going to help google for gemini to be no 1 lel.

Err... total dominance?
Which industry are you in bro.

I am in semicon, automation, photovoltaic, machinery industry.
Professionals in this industry that use Apple laptop like 5%?

If you say Apple dominance in tablet, I can agree la.
Laptop? hell no~ Apple are not dominance at all.

That must be why the only windows laptop I've seen was on an accountant. PMs, designers of all kinds, architects, programmers all were given macbook pro.

Refer answer above.

This post has been edited by whyamiblack: Sep 4 2025, 03:25 PM

Apple intelligence is pretty game over for Apple as they fired the entire dept and replaced all the top dogs..

They can only tapping on Chatgpt at this point….or maybe acquire other AI comp..

This post has been edited by swanlover: Sep 4 2025, 03:40 PM

Apple Intelligence unable to achieve what others can because it is bound by the code of privacy that it wont upload user private info outside of Apple Private Cloud. While Android doesnt care that making it more agile and flexible as well as fast .

then apple shudnt have promised AI on the iPhone 16.

speaking from a die-hard PC user.

fact only.

- Apple Silicon since M1 = best SoC on planet. for each generation. Total Beast.
- But Apple Strategy dont allow Apple Silicon to dominate the market.
- You want enjoy Apple silicon u must buy apple product. If Apple open and sell ONLY their SoC.. 1st, they will dominate server market. Lowpower, fast. nothing beat that in server market.
- If Apple open to sell only SoC?? Lenovo will build Apple SoC Laptop that is cheaper, more battery, more feature than Apple itself.
- So, no matter how Good is Apple Silicon. you can only use it in thier Product within their OS.


Laptop Market Share.
- NEVER. NEVER A DAY. MacOs is dominant in PC / Laptop market.

As of mid-2025, Windows is the dominant PC operating system globally, holding approximately 70-72% of the desktop market share, followed by Apple's macOS with around 10-16%. Linux holds a smaller, but growing, share of the desktop market at around 4-5%, while ChromeOS makes up a couple of percent.


- Ok, how about Top selling Brand by counting unit sold?????
- not the top 3... Sorry

By Global Shipments (Data from IDC, January 2025)
Lenovo: 23.5% of the market
HP Inc.: 20.2% of the market
Dell Technologies: 14.9% of the market
Apple: 8.7% of the market




- I have Macbook. as a dev i need OS Coverage.
- their build quality, battery life is always Amaze me.
- but they cant be my daily driver. it has gazzilion limitation. for me as a poweruser. for average user you dont feel it.
- Macbook = PS5. Windows = PC. then you know. how much control you can do with your pS5??? only manufacturer allow operation.
- PC???? no limit.

At least they will release substantial products or services albeit taking forever to release. Better than Microsoft put a freaking dedicated button and called it AI powered.

Tanpa Steve Jobs, they are nothing.
They are riding tunggang on his legacy only.
Ifon, ipad, makbook semua intro by Steve Jobs.

This post has been edited by Capt. Marble: Sep 4 2025, 04:03 PM

Don't even understand what you are talking about lmao

As of early September 2025, Microsoft has a higher market capitalization than Apple, with Microsoft at approximately $3.77 trillion and Apple at around $3.45 trillion. Microsoft's valuation has been boosted by its focus on cloud services and AI, while Apple, though still a top company, has seen its market position fluctuate due to factors including reliance on hardware sales and competition.


Apple from Top, Highest Value Company on EARTH.
now 1 by 1 overtake by its competitor.
Latest Competitor that smoke APPLE = Microsoft, just overtake APPLE market value.




Little Bro. You dont understand what Microsoft is doing now. and what they done so far.

You dont....

Bro you really dunno what Microsoft is doing so far, they're not basically a Windows OS company anymore...

Even Dell is moving away from its PC/Laptop business....

lol. i can see you are a bitter old man.

pls dont forget your medication ya.

Apple can only dream of doing what that copilot button can do now lol.

Google and Meta should be thanking Ah cook after he tu7lan n fired the entire dept , all top engineers went to them..Lolx

Apple no longer innovate, just continue milking until the tits go dry

1. Numbers will change. Watch the trend flip if windows keep on fumbling their battery management. It already started.

2. Nvidia makes great chips but their chips comes with heavy power consumption. Yeah, this is biggest benefit of windows laptop, but it's also what's holding them back when it comes to laptop. Let's be real, most people don't even own a desktop anymore. This trend has been going on for a long time.

3. Yeah, you're a poweruser but most people aren't and the most important sales figures comes from non-poweruser.

Simple as ABC, they can't afford it.

iPhone > all

banking apps use iPhone - Tanpa was was

this

windows cannot fight

Kekekekekeke...

You think apple is about tech?

Is about lifestyle, fashion, status, taste.

You think people spend few k for LV bag is because it's 10x more durable than pasar malam bag?

Dun care the debacle
Wont buy apple either ggod / bad
Cos their cutthroat price
But will keep buy aapl

Very yes, Excel Mac is really backwards.

Many iPhone 16 buyers felt cheated with their Apple Intelligence hoohaa promises last year…

Apple usually delivers, albeit bit slow...but for the first time....kinda bull...

This post has been edited by swanlover: Sep 4 2025, 05:46 PM

What type of company that is involved in semicon, automation, photovoltaic, machinery industry. I m interested

I don't see any innovation from them anymore.

All just sugarcoat with fancy fancy things that people don't even use daily anyway.

The only reason a lot of people still use Apple because they are in the comfort zone of using Apple ecosystem and lazy to switch.

This post has been edited by xpole: Sep 4 2025, 05:31 PM

Of course I don’t, I’m not in their ecosystem at all. Even using WPS to replace office365. 😂😂😂. Anyway if Microsoft are doing well then good for them.

If iphone don't launch out new feature on their phone especially AI, very hard to convince the iphone X, iphone 12, iphone 13 owner to switch over iphone 17

They focus in the stupid googles that cant sell

i am this, even with android or ios i dont think my use case for my phone will be any diff

i only use pong for instant messaging and browsing web, nothing else. i can easily switch over to Android but meh it wouldnt change anything to me

So far bilum ada new unicorn co that can challenge apple
Dominance.

Once a worthy challenger appears, apple gonna shaken a lot

But but airpods not under steve kerja era 👀

You can say what you want, me I'm excited for new ipong, whether new airpods pro 3 finally is a real hifi earphones or not, and the new rumored budget macbook with the A series SoC from ipongs, will be very power efficient and speculated 600 usd price.

No Apple Intelligent
No Innovation
No much changes
NO PROBLEM!!
Apple fans will still pay for it!!

if ipong 17 didn't launch their apple intelligence aka AI in their phone, i might save up my money and buy iphone 16 series.

Tim Cook vision is kinda fucuk up Apple strategy in this few years, gave up EV and their carplay ecosystem is somehow stagnant. AI sudah delay and delay. Supply chain moving out from China to India and end up back to China again.

From WSJ headline
I guess i17 also dont have AI

topkek Apple
so called leader of technology
holding berillions cash but do nothing innovation

They took WSJ interview ahead of Apple fall launch defending AI on their iphone, which mean they wont launch any AI in this coming i17.
But they do have new line of iphone which is iPhone Air but same kettle black.

This post has been edited by submergedx: Sep 4 2025, 06:30 PM

I don't buy newest ipong actually, I just wanna watch how the new ipong is. Still using old ipong that works fine. Yes the AI kinda sucks, was hoping a good localized version for AI and better cloud AI for the rest.

Let's see their sales data for this iphone 17

launch iphone air won't help them, the price already on high side, u want consumer to switch, show them the new feature, consumer dgaf about how good their camera/video recording, chipset performance improve by XX%.

For me even using iphone 12 version, the A14 5nm chipset is still working fine until now. The era of about smartphone chipset performance is kinda over.

Appl stock is pretty much gg, can join intc.

salah ifag, run out of kidney to bailout apple

lol

guess what, despite the criticism for their AI
their stock price still high time

ts own a lot of apple share? LOL

imma just change my battery for 400bucks. nothing new from apple edi. if really need to change phone, might consider pixel or samsung ultra.

Intel, 2021. when intel release 12th gen.

very very high that time.
within 1 year drop to $27. (2022)


guess what??

im saying AAPL la

Apple is like Toyota. They have very sticky customers. Once they buy is customer for life.

bro, cant understand???

all time high doesnt mean anything....

20 years ago.

90% of phone user believe Nokia would run 100 years and continue to dominate phone market.


actually Nokia still surpass what Apple achieve today.
Their all time high market share is something no other company can ever reproduce.

but... still GG


Apple would die with smartphone.
People think smartphone would live another 25 years = people who belip 5G would live 25 years.

next wave of tech after capacitive touch screens is AI/fully automated functions... which Apple is struggling.

apple intelligence is kinda over rated marketing ploy

end up user still sohai juga

but in their "marketing" ploy they laugh at other AI say theirs is real AI

meanwhile they don't even have a product to release still dare to laugh at other ppl

kek