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post Sep 1 2025, 07:06 AM, updated 4 months ago

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Pontian Municipal Council also commits flag blunder
By VENESA DEVI
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Sunday, 31 Aug 2025
9:56 PM MYT

JOHOR BARU: Just days after reprimanding a mini supermarket in Pekan Nanas for flying the state flag upside down, the Pontian Minicipal Council (MPPn) has come under fire itself for a flag-related mishap.

MPPn has drawn flak for allegedly sharing a photo of a decoration featuring the wrong number of points on the star of the Jalur Gemilang.

In the photo, which was reportedly posted on the MPPn Facebook page, the star on a replica of the national flag had 16 points instead of the correct 14.

The post, which has since been removed, is believed to show the exterior decoration of a building in Pontian in conjunction with National Day.

When contacted, an official from the council said they were in the midst of investigating the allegation.

This came just days after MPPn ordered a mini supermarket in Pekan Nanas, Pontian, to close for 30 days after it was found to be flying the Johor flag upside down.

Prior to that, a dental clinic was also issued a similar order for displaying the Jalur Gemilang upside down.

Source: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2025...ts-flag-blunder
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Closure notices for flying flags upside down is lawful, says Johor rep
By VENESA DEVI
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Saturday, 30 Aug 2025
8:59 PM MYT

JOHOR BARU: The Pontian Municipal Council's (MPPn) decision to issue 30-day closure notices to two premises for flying the national and state flags upside down is lawful, says state executive councillor Datuk Mohd Jafni Md Shukor.

The Johor housing and local government committee chairman said the action was consistent with the provisions under 49(2) of the Business and Trade Licensing Bylaws (UUK) 2019, which gave councils the power to close premises following confirmation of a violation.

“The notice issued by the MPPn president is not ultra vires nor is it an act of cruelty.

“It is a legal action and also a serious reminder that everyone must not be careless or dismissive when dealing with issues that touch on the sovereignty and honour of the state and the nation.

“After 68 years of independence, negligence of this nature should not continue to happen,” he said in a statement here.

He warned that if such incidents were to happen again, tougher and uncompromising action would be taken.

“The firmness of the law is important to ensure that all citizens and stakeholders respect the symbols of national and state sovereignty, and to prevent flimsy excuses that tarnish the dignity of the flag we all love,” he added.

He said such mistakes were not minor but a slap against the sovereignty fought for with blood and tears.

Jafni added that Johoreans, regardless of race or background, must understand that respecting the Jalur Gemilang and the Johor flag was not a choice but a duty.

“A flag is not just a piece of cloth fluttering on a pole; it is a symbol of sovereignty, dignity and loyalty.

“Respect for the flag means respect for the state and the country.

“The excuse of workers’ negligence is unacceptable as local employers must be fully responsible for offences and mistakes committed at their premises,” he said.

On Wednesday (Aug 27), MPPn ordered a mini supermarket in Pekan Nanas, Pontian, to close for 30 days after it was found to be flying the Johor flag upside down.

This came just days after a dental clinic in the same district was issued a similar order for displaying the Jalur Gemilang upside down.

Source: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2025...-says-johor-rep
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so how close their office? gaji buta for a month ?
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“The excuse of workers’ negligence is unacceptable as local employers must be fully responsible for offences and mistakes committed at their premises,” he said.
Let's see him walk the talk or just a hypocrite........ LOL 😂
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What is the action? Lol
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post Sep 1 2025, 07:34 AM

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Can businesses opt not to fly the flags? If can then better don la. If govt ask, jus say that we are sked of closing for 30 days.
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post Sep 1 2025, 07:35 AM

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anyone gonna be arrested and put in lockup??

gonna be closed for 30 days??

no Chinese target, so no chance to stir unrest??




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post Sep 1 2025, 07:35 AM

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They did it on purpose. Can close the office for 1 month
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post Sep 1 2025, 08:30 AM

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It's selective outrage.

It's not really about the flag.
It's about who commits the act.
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Let's see if can walk the talk?
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Conlan97firm those municipal office ppl want 30 days holiday. Pls give them and send to to gulag.......oooo wai ...
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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Sep 1 2025, 07:34 AM)
Can businesses opt not to fly the flags?  If can then better don la. If govt ask, jus say that we are sked of closing for 30 days.
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remembered depends on each state municipal ruling, some state need to naik bendera some don't........ remembered saman bout rm200 to 300 only.......better you no naik bendera n pay small saman than you naik n they look for fault n close you for 30 days......LOL
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This came just days after MPPn ordered a mini supermarket in Pekan Nanas, Pontian, to close for 30 days after it was found to be flying the Johor flag upside down.


Do they have legal just cause for this close down? Or just ketuanan order?
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 1 2025, 09:14 AM)
Do they have legal just cause for this close down? Or just ketuanan order?
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See the second post
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where the pic...?
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QUOTE(haya @ Sep 1 2025, 09:16 AM)
See the second post
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The Johor housing and local government committee chairman said the action was consistent with the provisions under 49(2) of the Business and Trade Licensing Bylaws (UUK) 2019, which gave councils the power to close premises following confirmation of a violation.

What is a violation under the Business and Trade bylaws? Hanging a flag wrongly?
I am not so sure.
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tutupe 30days?????
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Tutup the majlis for 30 days also. Fair for all.
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At this point, setting the flag on fire might get a lighter sentence
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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Sep 1 2025, 07:34 AM)
Can businesses opt not to fly the flags?  If can then better don la. If govt ask, jus say that we are sked of closing for 30 days.
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Not compulsory boss, can see many banks no flags for past years......
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 1 2025, 09:32 AM)
What is a violation under the Business and Trade bylaws? Hanging a flag wrongly?
I am not so sure.
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Section 45 of the Trade, Business, Industry and Professions By-Laws (UUK) 1982 (Undang-undang Kecil Tred, Perniagaan, Perindustrian dan Profesyen, 1982)

All the Johor councils have that Section 45 provisions in their by-laws:
https://www.mdkt.gov.my/sites/default/files...17_akta_171.pdf
https://mbip.gov.my/sites/default/files/3._...mbip_2018_0.pdf
https://www.mbjb.gov.my/sites/default/files...n_mbjb_2016.pdf

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QUOTE(sihamsedap @ Sep 1 2025, 07:18 AM)
so how close their office? gaji buta for a month ?
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No need click se office no pay for the month cuz they cannot close shop like normal shops. Gian nak jilat bontot Akmal. Tengok apa dah jadi. Malu nya.!
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suruh datuk bandar kosongkan kerusi tu
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QUOTE(haya @ Sep 1 2025, 09:59 AM)
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Section 45 of the Trade, Business, Industry and Professions By-Laws (UUK) 1982  (Undang-undang Kecil Tred, Perniagaan, Perindustrian dan Profesyen, 1982)

All the Johor councils have that Section 45 provisions in their by-laws:
https://www.mdkt.gov.my/sites/default/files...17_akta_171.pdf
https://mbip.gov.my/sites/default/files/3._...mbip_2018_0.pdf
https://www.mbjb.gov.my/sites/default/files...n_mbjb_2016.pdf
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Thanks
So now, for consistency Datuk Bandar has to close down the Pontian Municipal office too.

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 1 2025, 10:13 AM)
Thanks
So now, for consistency Datuk Bandar has to close down the Pontian Municipal office too.
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=112096171
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I think this case the appropriate punishment is open 7 days a week for a month. No OT?
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QUOTE(haya @ Sep 1 2025, 07:06 AM)
Pontian Municipal Council also commits flag blunder
By VENESA DEVI
Nation
Sunday, 31 Aug 2025
9:56 PM MYT

JOHOR BARU: Just days after reprimanding a mini supermarket in Pekan Nanas for flying the state flag upside down, the Pontian Minicipal Council (MPPn) has come under fire itself for a flag-related mishap.

MPPn has drawn flak for allegedly sharing a photo of a decoration featuring the wrong number of points on the star of the Jalur Gemilang.

In the photo, which was reportedly posted on the MPPn Facebook page, the star on a replica of the national flag had 16 points instead of the correct 14.

The post, which has since been removed, is believed to show the exterior decoration of a building in Pontian in conjunction with National Day.

When contacted, an official from the council said they were in the midst of investigating the allegation.

This came just days after MPPn ordered a mini supermarket in Pekan Nanas, Pontian, to close for 30 days after it was found to be flying the Johor flag upside down.

Prior to that, a dental clinic was also issued a similar order for displaying the Jalur Gemilang upside down.

Source: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2025...ts-flag-blunder
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Not enough stars is just printing and design issue.. lazy

Putting the flag upside down means the country is in distress and disrespecting .. like how Malaysian students in Taiwan done back in 2018

Different meaning

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When si Akmal going to teach MPPn how to hang the national flag?

https://www.therakyatpost.com/news/2025/08/...raise-the-flag/
https://www.threads.com/@trpmsia/post/DNPhYvsJ3SA/media

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Sep 1 2025, 11:47 AM)
Not enough stars is just printing and design issue.. lazy

Putting the flag upside down means the country is in distress and disrespecting .. like how Malaysian students in Taiwan done back in 2018

Different meaning
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U can tell that to our Agong also? Both also disrespecting no excuse.

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YANG DI-PERTUAN AGONG: BENDERA ADALAH LAMBANG KEDAULATAN NEGARA, TIDAK BOLEH DIPERSENDAKAN

KDYMM SPB Yang di-Pertuan Agong Sultan Ibrahim bertitah, menegaskan bendera adalah lambang kedaulatan serta identiti sesebuah negara.

Seri Paduka Baginda, bertitah bendera bukan sekadar kain bercorak yang berwarna-warni, tetapi mewakili perjuangan, sejarah, erti kemerdekaan serta semangat rakyat jelata.

“Kita sebagai rakyat mengibarkan bendera dengan rasa megah dan semangat patriotik dalam kalangan masyarakat berbilang bangsa.

“Kesilapan memaparkan gambar Jalur Gemilang tanpa bulan sabit seperti disiarkan dalam muka hadapan di sebuah akhbar berbahasa Cina tempatan boleh mencetuskan sensitiviti rakyat dan tidak boleh diterima,” titah Seri Paduka Baginda pada hari ini (16 April).

Seri Paduka Baginda, bertitah pihak pengurusan dan jabatan pengarang akhbar berkenaan seharusnya lebih peka dan menyemak sesuatu bahan siaran terlebih dahulu sebelum dicetak untuk siaran.

#YDPAgong
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So? Close the council?

Hari biasa gaji buta now free holiday lagi gaji buta x2?

Jibai this shit niamah all the the fckin high horse scare no issue to goreng kah dllm...
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MPPn tutup 30 hari tak?

Double standard ni
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Sep 1 2025, 11:47 AM)
Not enough stars is just printing and design issue.. lazy

Putting the flag upside down means the country is in distress and disrespecting .. like how Malaysian students in Taiwan done back in 2018

Different meaning
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Changing country flag is derhaka
Jangan derhaka tau....... Pengkhianat negara!

Reversed country flag is pure mistake
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Sep 1 2025, 11:32 AM)
I think this case the appropriate punishment is open 7 days a week for a month. No OT?
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QUOTE(FreedomSeeker @ Sep 1 2025, 12:07 PM)
U can tell that to our Agong also? Both also disrespecting no excuse.
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Totally lost bulan sabit.. totally not Malaysian flag

While the Pontian municipality only got less count of stripes and pointers.. you wont see the mistake unless you start counting

Not the same

Laughable attempt by your people to drag others to lessen up your screw up
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Sep 1 2025, 09:27 PM)
Totally lost bulan sabit.. totally not Malaysian flag

While the Pontian municipality only got less count of stripes and pointers.. you wont see the mistake unless you start counting

Not the same

Laughable attempt by your people to drag others to lessen up your screw up
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Moving goal post at its finest. Read Agong last paragraph la…

“Seri Paduka Baginda, bertitah pihak pengurusan dan jabatan pengarang akhbar berkenaan seharusnya lebih peka dan menyemak sesuatu bahan siaran terlebih dahulu sebelum dicetak untuk siaran”

2 wrong wont make 1 right. U wont make mistake if you know my country history well. U make this mistake bcox you tak kisah about the details of my country flag. Thats all… wrong is wrong…
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Sep 1 2025, 09:27 PM)
Totally lost bulan sabit.. totally not Malaysian flag

While the Pontian municipality only got less count of stripes and pointers.. you wont see the mistake unless you start counting

Not the same

Laughable attempt by your people to drag others to lessen up your screw up
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So this bumi owned busness say "country is in distress and disrespecting"?:


So this Seremban police say "country is in distress and disrespecting"?:
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Masjid Kota Damansara say "country is in distress and disrespecting"?:
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Polis Bangsar say "country is in distress and disrespecting"?:
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Balai polis Simpang Lima say "country is in distress and disrespecting"?:
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PAS say "country is in distress and disrespecting"?:
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During Sambutan Hari Kebangsaan ke-65:
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UMNO themselves say "country is in distress and disrespecting"?:

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QUOTE(haya @ Sep 2 2025, 09:12 AM)
So this bumi owned busness say "country is in distress and disrespecting"?:


So this Seremban police  say "country is in distress and disrespecting"?:
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Masjid Kota Damansara say "country is in distress and disrespecting"?:
user posted image

Polis Bangsar say "country is in distress and disrespecting"?:
user posted image

Balai polis Simpang Lima say "country is in distress and disrespecting"?:
user posted image

PAS say "country is in distress and disrespecting"?:
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During Sambutan Hari Kebangsaan ke-65:
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UMNO themselves say "country is in distress and disrespecting"?:

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Yes all the above is disrespecting and say country in distress

But the last one you pretty stupid. That is reverted angle where the flag is facing the inside of the school .. the school clearly want it to be seen from the inside . By law this is not wrong as it all depends on where the wind blow or where the owner of the flag want it to be facing
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Biasa la, double standard.

Authority correct it and move on, no action taken.
Netizen not making noise, politician tak nampak.
Media pun tak berani post multiple episode.

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Sep 3 2025, 10:02 AM)
Yes all the above is disrespecting and say country in distress

But the last one you pretty stupid. That is reverted angle where the flag is facing the inside of the school .. the school clearly want it to be seen from the inside . By law this is not wrong as it all depends on where the wind blow or where the owner of the flag want it to be facing
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nah i learnt this the other day, dunno which law you quoting

QUOTE(haya @ Aug 25 2025, 12:27 PM)
The literal government line:
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Source: https://dbook.penerangan.gov.my/dbook/dmdoc...milang_2020.pdf

So according to the government:
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Sep 3 2025, 10:02 AM)
Yes all the above is disrespecting and say country in distress

But the last one you pretty stupid. That is reverted angle where the flag is facing the inside of the school .. the school clearly want it to be seen from the inside . By law this is not wrong as it all depends on where the wind blow or where the owner of the flag want it to be facing
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Last one is Umno, not a school

Official guidelines state the correct angle for building perimeter is for outside looking in
Some one shared before

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https://dbook.penerangan.gov.my/dbook/dmdoc...milang_2020.pdf

But like you say abit frivolous so most ppl will let it pass. Most ppl la, there are of course outliers who like to see the world burn

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