Saman are not expenses.
Your fault, you pay.

I clear my saman . I pay .. my question is can they withheld my claims though because of this ?

I clear my saman . I pay .. my question is can they withheld my claims though because of this ?

I’ve been with my company for almost 14 years and recently, I’ve been hit with a situation that’s left me fuming. I submitted a claim for around RM 54,000 for various expenses related to a China Factory Test I paid for upfront. These expenses included things like hotel, food, and travel for 11 people, plus 3 months of monthly expenses (petrol, tolls, phone bills, and entertainment). The total was about RM 40,000 for the factory test-related expenses and the rest for the other monthlies.

Here’s where it gets weird: the company’s finance team has now withheld RM 54,000 from me, citing things like a RM 900 JPJ fine (reduced to RM 450) and a RM 1900 MPPJ fine (reduced to RM 600) as reasons for the withheld the claims. These are small amounts in the grand scheme of things, especially when you consider the total claim.

To make matters worse, I feel like I’m fighting alone here. My direct boss (Executive Director) is aware of the situation, but he’s acting like it’s no big deal and hasn’t done anything to help me resolve this. The finance team seems to be imposing new requirements out of nowhere. After working with this company for so long, it feels like I’m being treated unfairly.

Has anyone here dealt with a situation like this?

I can move out of this company, but it feels like they win. Should I reach out to a lawyer? I fear, going to a lawyer will only result in them asking me to settle this amicably. The thing is, I usually get away with things by talking to the MD directly.

I dont want this. I want to win, while I can find job outside, I want this to escalate so bad, it results in her getting fired.

I’ve been with my company for almost 14 years and recently, I’ve been hit with a situation that’s left me fuming. I submitted a claim for around RM 54,000 for various expenses related to a China Factory Test I paid for upfront. These expenses included things like hotel, food, and travel for 11 people, plus 3 months of monthly expenses (petrol, tolls, phone bills, and entertainment). The total was about RM 40,000 for the factory test-related expenses and the rest for the other monthlies.

Here’s where it gets weird: the company’s finance team has now withheld RM 54,000 from me, citing things like a RM 900 JPJ fine (reduced to RM 450) and a RM 1900 MPPJ fine (reduced to RM 600) as reasons for the withheld the claims. These are small amounts in the grand scheme of things, especially when you consider the total claim.

To make matters worse, I feel like I’m fighting alone here. My direct boss (Executive Director) is aware of the situation, but he’s acting like it’s no big deal and hasn’t done anything to help me resolve this. The finance team seems to be imposing new requirements out of nowhere. After working with this company for so long, it feels like I’m being treated unfairly.

Has anyone here dealt with a situation like this?

I can move out of this company, but it feels like they win. Should I reach out to a lawyer? I fear, going to a lawyer will only result in them asking me to settle this amicably. The thing is, I usually get away with things by talking to the MD directly.

I dont want this. I want to win, while I can find job outside, I want this to escalate so bad, it results in *her* getting fired.

TS did the incorrect move in the 1st place (claiming saman)
thats why the finance team onhold everthing (perhaps they are checking one by one now)

dengar macam u are clouded by emotion.

Just pay as instructed, no hanky panky. Then see how they respond lor. Follow up with future company expenses all wait this awesome finance team decide. Any future problem from this is not on u. Put it in black n white CC all bosses.

Reading from your tone here. You feel disrespected because finance team treat u like some shady ppl trying to rip off the company? I advise caution against thinking with your heart. Need to be logical here, the finance team actually do no wrong they just following sop. I am on the boat everything best to follow SOP, because kasi adjust kasi cincai kasi chan thing very easy to end up with selective enforcement and then suddenly the no clear line is drawn and everyone start doing thigns on a whim. Like how u are feeling here right now, u start arguing about "last time okay, why now suddenly not okay?? what u trying to imply?? kurang ajar no respect me!!!"


it's not that , it takes time . usually I need to que at jpj , and can get 50% discount .

the thing is , I'm using company car and I don't get the list unless I get my assistant to check for me .

the most recent was today . the claim was month June , payment ready but holding because I kena Saman last Saturday .

by the way I'm using company's car
Not good for long term.

saman can claim?
what else reason to withhold?

you mentioned *her*
it's one person you are dealing with?
then, talk to her?

Why only after 3 months submit claim?

hold on a second

those fines .... u claimed full amount but paid with discount ?

*if yes, finance has every right to do so.

hold on a second

those fines .... u claimed full amount but paid with discount ?

*if yes, finance has every right to do so.

hmm, since you already paid the local summons, why they wana withheld the payment? It is totally not realted to China trip :X

SInce you say can talk to MD, why not talk to him/her?

don't want to go to him every time .

I’ve been with my company for almost 14 years and recently, I’ve been hit with a situation that’s left me fuming. I submitted a claim for around RM 54,000 for various expenses related to a China Factory Test I paid for upfront. These expenses included things like hotel, food, and travel for 11 people, plus 3 months of monthly expenses (petrol, tolls, phone bills, and entertainment). The total was about RM 40,000 for the factory test-related expenses and the rest for the other monthlies.

Here’s where it gets weird: the company’s finance team has now withheld RM 54,000 from me, citing things like a RM 900 JPJ fine (reduced to RM 450) and a RM 1900 MPPJ fine (reduced to RM 600) as reasons for the withheld the claims. These are small amounts in the grand scheme of things, especially when you consider the total claim.

To make matters worse, I feel like I’m fighting alone here. My direct boss (Executive Director) is aware of the situation, but he’s acting like it’s no big deal and hasn’t done anything to help me resolve this. The finance team seems to be imposing new requirements out of nowhere. After working with this company for so long, it feels like I’m being treated unfairly.

Has anyone here dealt with a situation like this?

I can move out of this company, but it feels like they win. Should I reach out to a lawyer? I fear, going to a lawyer will only result in them asking me to settle this amicably. The thing is, I usually get away with things by talking to the MD directly.

I dont want this. I want to win, while I can find job outside, I want this to escalate so bad, it results in her getting fired.

friend...why you go and pay on behalf for 11 people ?

Any finance, period....will not approve your claim. Why the other 11 people can't do the claim themselves?

And if these people are KOLs, media, bla bla not employees, why you have no approval paper signed by finance and bosses to allow you to claim?

You are virtually submitting claim without any approval.

as for entertainment, are your claims within the co HR rules for entertainment claim?

Factory test related, got any PO and invoice or not?

You cannot just simply submit claims out of your whims and fancy lah.

Finance got procedures one.

I am 100% sure TS been collecting miles point from his credit card. Now he angry because got new bigshot in HR targeting him and started scrutinizing his "claims". I would also bet the new HR is young girl with "less experience" but get hired because on paper she is great. TS maruah tercabar because he is supposed to be higher up in hierarchy due to longer tenure in the company.

TS sounds like a boomer who had his way unchecked for way too long now have personal vendetta because someone is messing with his free reign.

something is not right with TS claims

if the co happens to be a large co then his claim would never go through.

which also make me think TS is working in boomers company that is transitioning to the next generation. So new wave come in the company start doing house cleaning and rectifying a lot of fuckery sop.

I know this because my family business did this many years back. The resistance from boomers old exec damn wtf, a lot of ego and a lot of "last time no problem why now problem?!" . Basically all those old dinosaur try hard to gatekeep to continue the status quo

ok  I'm going to summarize this .

A) Im not claiming Saman from the company .
B) there is no issue with my claims . my claims I'll submit following proper procedures .
C) finance refuses to release my claims due outstanding car saman.
d) my car Saman is negligible when compared to my claims .

i dont understand what does TS's saman got to do with his claims
there is one reply from this ktard that said if his staff got saman he wont approve claim??
dafuq u so free go background check all ur staff to see if got saman then their claim deny?
they arent even claiming the saman also???
i still dont understand why company withhold the payout due to saman on own vehicle that has nothing to do with company?