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hoonanoo
post Aug 29 2025, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(akidos @ Aug 29 2025, 11:10 AM)
I’ve been with my company for almost 14 years and recently, I’ve been hit with a situation that’s left me fuming. I submitted a claim for around RM 54,000 for various expenses related to a China Factory Test I paid for upfront. These expenses included things like hotel, food, and travel for 11 people, plus 3 months of monthly expenses (petrol, tolls, phone bills, and entertainment). The total was about RM 40,000 for the factory test-related expenses and the rest for the other monthlies.

Here’s where it gets weird: the company’s finance team has now withheld RM 54,000 from me, citing things like a RM 900 JPJ fine (reduced to RM 450) and a RM 1900 MPPJ fine (reduced to RM 600) as reasons for the withheld the claims. These are small amounts in the grand scheme of things, especially when you consider the total claim.

To make matters worse, I feel like I’m fighting alone here. My direct boss (Executive Director) is aware of the situation, but he’s acting like it’s no big deal and hasn’t done anything to help me resolve this. The finance team seems to be imposing new requirements out of nowhere. After working with this company for so long, it feels like I’m being treated unfairly.

Has anyone here dealt with a situation like this?

I can move out of this company, but it feels like they win. Should I reach out to a lawyer? I fear, going to a lawyer will only result in them asking me to settle this amicably. The thing is, I usually get away with things by talking to the MD directly.

I dont want this. I want to win, while I can find job outside, I want this to escalate so bad, it results in her getting fired.
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friend...why you go and pay on behalf for 11 people ?

Any finance, period....will not approve your claim. Why the other 11 people can't do the claim themselves?

And if these people are KOLs, media, bla bla not employees, why you have no approval paper signed by finance and bosses to allow you to claim?

You are virtually submitting claim without any approval.

as for entertainment, are your claims within the co HR rules for entertainment claim?

Factory test related, got any PO and invoice or not?

You cannot just simply submit claims out of your whims and fancy lah.

Finance got procedures one.
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post Aug 29 2025, 04:30 PM

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Just go to your finance dept and ask politely what the problem is.
If it because of the saman, just take back and redo it without the saman inside the claim.

If there is other issue, example no receipt or no worksheet, just attached and resubmit it.

I believe you are the head of the team, that why you are claiming & paying for the team.
If yes, there must be supporting claim by all the team members as well to come out as grand total RM54k.
Don't just you alone do the claim for all, it easier and more "trustworthy" as more ppl involved in doing the claim form.

end of the day, treat the finance dept especially the person does claim clearance as buddy. He or she can "help" you on the way of claiming brows.gif
The wording and purpose of the claim can play a major role of accepting or rejecting your claim too.

If you have the company CC to use, never ever use it on personal things especially those saman or private usage.
You will create "suspicious awareness" for past and future claims.




This post has been edited by Iceman74: Aug 29 2025, 04:39 PM
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post Aug 29 2025, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Aug 29 2025, 04:15 PM)
friend...why you go and pay on behalf for 11 people ?

Any finance, period....will not approve your claim. Why the other 11 people can't do the claim themselves?

And if these people are KOLs, media, bla bla not employees, why you have no approval paper signed by finance and bosses to allow you to claim?

You are virtually submitting claim without any approval.

as for entertainment, are your claims within the co HR rules for entertainment claim?

Factory test related, got any PO and invoice or not?

You cannot just simply submit claims out of your whims and fancy lah.

Finance got procedures one.
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I am 100% sure TS been collecting miles point from his credit card. Now he angry because got new bigshot in HR targeting him and started scrutinizing his "claims". I would also bet the new HR is young girl with "less experience" but get hired because on paper she is great. TS maruah tercabar because he is supposed to be higher up in hierarchy due to longer tenure in the company.

TS sounds like a boomer who had his way unchecked for way too long now have personal vendetta because someone is messing with his free reign.
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post Aug 29 2025, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Aug 29 2025, 04:31 PM)
I am 100% sure TS been collecting miles point from his credit card. Now he angry because got new bigshot in HR targeting him and started scrutinizing his "claims". I would also bet the new HR is young girl with "less experience" but get hired because on paper she is great. TS maruah tercabar because he is supposed to be higher up in hierarchy due to longer tenure in the company.

TS sounds like a boomer who had his way unchecked for way too long now have personal vendetta because someone is messing with his free reign.
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something is not right with TS claims

if the co happens to be a large co then his claim would never go through.


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post Aug 29 2025, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Aug 29 2025, 05:49 PM)
something is not right with TS claims

if the co happens to be a large co then his claim would never go through.
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which also make me think TS is working in boomers company that is transitioning to the next generation. So new wave come in the company start doing house cleaning and rectifying a lot of fuckery sop.

I know this because my family business did this many years back. The resistance from boomers old exec damn wtf, a lot of ego and a lot of "last time no problem why now problem?!" . Basically all those old dinosaur try hard to gatekeep to continue the status quo
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post Aug 29 2025, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Aug 29 2025, 05:55 PM)
which also make me think TS is working in boomers company that is transitioning to the next generation. So new wave come in the company start doing house cleaning and rectifying a lot of fuckery sop.

I know this because my family business did this many years back. The resistance from boomers old exec damn wtf, a lot of ego and a lot of "last time no problem why now problem?!" . Basically all those old dinosaur try hard to gatekeep to continue the status quo
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If finance approve this kind of claim, sure hailat later when internal auditor or MACC catch them.


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post Aug 29 2025, 06:32 PM

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Perhaps TS need to clarify whether you have itemised bill receipt for each of the items (including entertainment stuff) or not? If not itemised, this is what making things difficult.

Also if this is MNC, normally they would have issued a charge card/amex for big company's expenses like this.
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post Aug 29 2025, 07:02 PM

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ok I'm going to summarize this .

A) Im not claiming Saman from the company .
B) there is no issue with my claims . my claims I'll submit following proper procedures .
C) finance refuses to release my claims due outstanding car saman.
d) my car Saman is negligible when compared to my claims .


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post Aug 29 2025, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(akidos @ Aug 29 2025, 07:02 PM)
ok  I'm going to summarize this .

A) Im not claiming Saman from the company .
B) there is no issue with my claims . my claims I'll submit following proper procedures .
C) finance refuses to release my claims due outstanding car saman.
d) my car Saman is negligible when compared to my claims .
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If the saman is unrelated to your claim, then something is really not right.

Saman is on company car? Maybe HR asked to withhold since you have saman on company property.
If personal car, then really TOPKEK
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post Aug 29 2025, 08:52 PM

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i dont understand what does TS's saman got to do with his claims
there is one reply from this ktard that said if his staff got saman he wont approve claim??
dafuq u so free go background check all ur staff to see if got saman then their claim deny?
they arent even claiming the saman also???
i still dont understand why company withhold the payout due to saman on own vehicle that has nothing to do with company?
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post Aug 29 2025, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(Thebestscammer @ Aug 29 2025, 09:52 PM)
i dont understand what does TS's saman got to do with his claims
there is one reply from this ktard that said if his staff got saman he wont approve claim??
dafuq u so free go background check all ur staff to see if got saman then their claim deny?
they arent even claiming the saman also???
i still dont understand why company withhold the payout due to saman on own vehicle that has nothing to do with company?
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the car im using belongs to the company .

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