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 So I fell for a scam...not an investment scam., (final update)

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hoonanoo
post Aug 27 2025, 05:03 PM

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I had a funny experience with a so called polis officer.

yeah he said the same thing.

then I said to him "fark you"

he reply back, "fark you"...it went on for 1 minute of fark you back and forth.

Damn funny. He threatened to arrest me, I said polis come to house to arrest not via the phone, since when so high tech.

he said he will come to my house to arrest me, and whack me kaw kaw.

I asked him what is my address...he stalled, kantoi hahahaha

then I ask him, your polis boss in Myanmar got feed you well or not? KPI fulfilled? You argue so much with me, sure tonight no dinner

then he shut the call

This post has been edited by hoonanoo: Aug 27 2025, 05:04 PM
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post Aug 27 2025, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(skyblack4492 @ Aug 27 2025, 04:59 PM)
Nvm la. Unker lost 25k+ to genting and online casino!!!!!!
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I sometimes imagine I lost 1.7million I never had.


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post Aug 27 2025, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(TsubakiKira @ Aug 27 2025, 02:14 PM)
Man it's been ages since I used lowyat forum, but I need to get this off my chest before my stress spirals over.

TLDR: Got misled by someone impersonating as police, got scammed into buying jewelry and pawning for cash and carrying out third party transfer, and awaiting the results of the police investigation.

Going to break this down into points for easier reading.

1. I got a call in mid-July from a handphone number with a person claiming that my info has been leaked and used to sell fake goods on Shopee, then I was directed to a balai polis Pahang. They claimed that they had some voice recording for purposes of court, and had a video call stating that there was an arrest order for me given by the court. In the same video call, there was a female police officer showing pictures of suspects, asking me if I know anyone of them. This then went up to a Tuan Inspector N**** (which i later checked to be an actual inspector in Pahang) and then subsequently to some a**hole named ACP Dato Fahmi (egoistic soab). They also asked me that I was to be a part of a police investigation in order to prove that my finances are clean. They also asked how much is the max credit given .

They made it very clear as this was under the secrets act, they did not want me to reveal details to anyone, not even my family members.

As they somehow knew that I had a kid, they asked me if I wanted to end up in prison. Given how I was emotionally, I didn't think twice about helping them out, so.....

2. They asked if I could take leave from work, and I did. They then called me, making sure that that I was not within earshot of anyone, and proceeded to tell me to
    a) buy jewelry using my credit cards
    b) pawn said jewelry
    c) transfer to a third party bank account, they issued a document under Bank Negara Malaysia with some details
    d) get proof of transfer.
   
    And I stupidly went through all that. This took place again 2 weeks later, they claimed they were in court to assist and everything. They also reassured me that the auditing department will clear them as how it is when we are assisting the government. Yada Yada.....

3. They also asked me to apply for a personal loan, and I got 12k from AEON. Again this is transferred like in No 2.

After I was done with these tasks, there was barely anything which raised my suspicion (only now), and I asked the police near my workplace, they confirmed that it was a scam. Luckily being the recorder that I am, I took a record of all the transactions done, the loan applied, everything and filed a police report last Saturday. I already submitted the records of all the purchases and transfers as requested by the police, and went to all banks involved (credit card and savings account). From what I have heard, as the transaction was genuine, the banks are unable to dispute and I will have to bear the brunt of it one way or another. I can only remain hopeful that the inspector in charge of my case can retrieve most of the cash, but what I have heard was that if it was an online transfer, it can be very difficult. I did get their names and account numbers though.

4. After the whole incident, i called that person (directly, not whatsapp) who used another number to call me 2 weeks ago but truecaller and that is how I came to confirm that it was a scam.

As no one knows apart from the psychiatrist that I am seeing, and knowing that this could very well be the end of what I have with my partner, I have been mulling over who should I talk to, but that isn't for this.

The whole purpose of me writing this is to remind, and to remind myself that sometimes I need to be cynical instead of overly emotional. I'm finding my way to deal with this,

Update: my bank just called me and they told me that they are unable to retrieve the money from the scammers accounts, so the police will have to arrest these people. From what I know, the telephone numbers are prepaid, and bought by foreigners. Fuck I had hope of getting the money to settle the cards

PSA 1: Double and triple check the numbers using Truecaller. If Truecaller wasn't reliable (like the first round). then always ask for their officer number. Double check with police officers using your IC number if there is anything against you.

PSA 2: Don't let them fool you using your loved ones, like me.

PSA 3: Anything involving third-party transfers is a HUGE RED FLAG OK.

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All I can do is pray that I get to sort this out one way or another. And I still need to call AEON about possibly settling the personal loan earlier. Fuck.
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2. They asked if I could take leave from work, and I did. They then called me, making sure that that I was not within earshot of anyone, and proceeded to tell me to
a) buy jewelry using my credit cards
b) pawn said jewelry
c) transfer to a third party bank account, they issued a document under Bank Negara Malaysia with some details
d) get proof of transfer.


I already submitted the records of all the purchases and transfers as requested by the police, and went to all banks involved (credit card and savings account). From what I have heard, as the transaction was genuine, the banks are unable to dispute and I will have to bear the brunt of it one way or another.

sorry I don't get it...why need to do all this to get the whole transaction to become legit and bank can't take action?

after you pawned the monies, you still directly transferred to those scammer bank accounts.



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post Aug 27 2025, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(hzmaz2017 @ Aug 27 2025, 05:13 PM)
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wow thanks, sharing is caring
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post Aug 27 2025, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(TsubakiKira @ Aug 27 2025, 06:29 PM)
aku bodoh sebab impulsif dan tak terfikir dalam emosi yang terganggu, good enough?

I already know I'll get brickbats posting here.
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no, I still don't understand why the scammer made you pawn stuff.

is it to avoid traceability or to raise money for you to pay them 20k ?

I can imagine a policeman asking me to pawn my watch to pay for a traffic fine. Highly unusual.
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post Aug 28 2025, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Aug 27 2025, 07:12 PM)
Kasi chan la.

I seen it first hand similar situation. It was 15 years ago. Family friend, auntie age 60+ . Definitely not dumb type as she is tauke of some hardware shop. She received call that started with identifying question. Got her whole family name. Then proceed to tell her "your son will die tonight". She panic mode straight cannot think and follow all the instruction. Scammer asked her to take out all jewelery and tanam somewhere. Luckily the safe deposite box she didnt know how to open. When ask her she staright say damn scared when they said her son dying, after that like auto mode just jalan only.
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but she transfer money to mule account

why need to do all those pawning to raise cash for ?

just say no money lah...

polis so good in money collection meh? if like this, I got debt issue, ask them help to chase..where got polis so good one
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post Aug 30 2025, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(cms @ Aug 30 2025, 08:08 AM)
In a calm, ideal mind yes of course its not logical.

But there will be certain momentary lapse of judgement, certain trigger points that makes the best of us make wrong decisions, use of certain words and tone that skipped our suspicion and logical decision making.

So the best we can do is to keep reminding ourself and our loved ones about all these scams at least weekly basis. To reinforce and keep a clear logical mind.
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Yes, the one thing we should know how to do is to walk out of a deal when we sense something not right

for eg, when we sense internal control or lapse in SOP.

But it would really help if we have solid Anti laws on Scams as well as Banks make quick decisions to freeze transactions.

I find our banks lacking in this area, in comparison to Singapore banks. I read so many news that Spore banks managed to stop potential scams from happening.

As for our laws, its disappointing to see opposition everyday talk about RnR issues, but issues that cover all races are not debated at all. For eg, laws that persecute more scam artists and prevent it from happening. But there are some MPs that talk about having a language addition to the IC card or another MP quick to criticize another MP for wearing a round neck in parliament. So a lot of time is wasted, little push for Madani to make more pertinent laws to make the nation great.
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post Aug 30 2025, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(cms @ Aug 30 2025, 08:21 AM)
Yes agree, another way is to always consult more ppl around us for opinion even /k. instead of acting alone and being isolated by these scammers. No harm to consult, consult consult.

Agree on the Banks part. Try these banks wanna recall their money paid by their error and see. Find u, lock your account, etc etc. But when comes to scam, kenot help lah, dunno lah. BNM needs to enforce some liability to these banks.
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A lot of people who kena scam are usually older people with lots of retirement savings.

some of them are not married, single. By the time you reach 60yo and over, you don't really have much friends.

then there are some who are younger, tend to make decisions without consulting, maybe its due to pride. For eg, I have a colleague who took early retirement in 40s, he told us that he had big investment plans, he is making a lot of money, no need to work anymore. He even claim to want to teach us how to make more money on stocks, crypto and forex, passive income - no need to work anymore. Mana tau, he lost all his money in scam investments then landed up in govt hospital after kena stress stroke due to loss of money.

 

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