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post Aug 18 2025, 04:15 PM, updated 6d ago

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Aug 13 2025, 09:31 AM)
Ryt Bank First Look. Malaysia's first AI-powered Digital Bank

Malaysia’s newest Digital Bank, Ryt Bank, is launching very soon on 26th August but they are now offering early access during the ASEAN AI Malaysia Summit 2025. Although this digital bank is the last among the 5 licensees to roll out to the public, the YTL Group x Sea Limited joint venture is banking on AI as its key differentiator.

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QUOTE(xiaomoon @ Aug 15 2025, 08:16 PM)
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QUOTE(xiaomoon @ Aug 18 2025, 02:56 PM)
3% + 1% pa (for 20k only)
1.2% unlimited cb for oversea, 0% fx

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QUOTE(Skeuomorphic @ Aug 18 2025, 03:27 PM)
the perks for early access currently

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Aug 18 2025, 03:33 PM)
https://www.rytbank.my/ryt-promos. click the link inside the url
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QUOTE(xiaomoon @ Aug 18 2025, 03:33 PM)
Continued from previous topic on the 5 MY digital bank licenses: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...#entry112041447

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post Aug 18 2025, 04:16 PM

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Ryt Card perks

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Ryt card product discloure sheet: https://rytbank.my/documents/ryt-card/Produ...re-Sheet-en.pdf

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Ryt bank fees and charges: https://www.rytbank.my/fees-and-limits

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No interest round up or down possible here as Ryt will keep track of your daily accrued interest down to many decimal points.

20k in saving pocket with 4% p.a. daily return is what you will expect.

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post Aug 18 2025, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(winmxbb @ Aug 18 2025, 04:18 PM)
when scan ic, it keep flash and coz the ic light explose and fail to verify.
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Use an opqaue object (like your black mouse pad) to cover the flashlight of your phone when taking photo of your IC during the e-KYC process.
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post Aug 18 2025, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(winmxbb @ Aug 18 2025, 04:48 PM)
the flashlight spot on my ic, end up my ic was light explore, nothing can do
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Uhm I don't understand. Can share your phone model? Maybe sifus here can help you.

The flashlight is located beneath the camera on my phone, so I blocked it. Then I realized there is an additional near-infrared sensor light coming out from the bottom camera of my phone, so I blocked that one as well, leaving only the topmost camera taking my IC photo.

This was my way and it worked:

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post Aug 18 2025, 04:57 PM

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Account approved in about an hour time. Funnily, there is no notification when my Ryt account opening is approved. Have to login then only find out approval done.
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post Aug 18 2025, 05:03 PM

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ikanbilis Wanna try round up trick again?

I am looking at this though.

https://www.rytbank.my/bonus-interest-campaign

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post Aug 18 2025, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Aug 18 2025, 05:11 PM)
4% rate got any capping?
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https://www.rytbank.my/bonus-interest-campaign
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post Aug 18 2025, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(TOS2 @ Aug 18 2025, 05:03 PM)
ikanbilis Wanna try round up trick again?

I am looking at this though.

https://www.rytbank.my/bonus-interest-campaign

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I looked at the examples they give. They are smart enough to separate the extra bonus 1% p.a. as a separate bonus interest to be paid to the Ryt pocket, so we cannot use round up trick directly here because 0.005*365/0.04 = 45.63 MYR, but 45.63*0.03/365 = 0.0038 MYR which is less than 0.005 MYR so the base interest of 3% p.a. will not be paid, let alone the extra 1% bonus.

The next best alternative is to apply the round up trick, but with a 3% p.a. rate instead of 4% p.a. In this case, 0.005*365/0.03 = 60.84 (the familiar magic number from BoostBank saving pots). If round up trick applies, we should get 0.01 MYR in the original save pocket (for 3% p.a.) but then we miss out again on the extra 1% p.a. because 60.84*0.01/365 = 0.00167 MYR which again is less than 0.005 MYR. Yet effectively we are still earning 6% p.a. because the 3% p.a. interests is rounded-up in this case, even though we totally lose out from the extra 1% interest bonus.

To take advantage of the 1% bonus, we need to fulfill the condition such that the daily interest earned is 0.005 MYR = 1% p.a. Solving this in maths means 0.005*365/0.01 = 182.50 MYR. Now 182.50 MYR in a saving pocket would yield 0.015 MYR interests daily, which rounds up to 0.02 MYR (if round-up tricks apply that is), then the extra 1% p.a. bonus interests would give another 0.005 MYR, again rounded up to 0.01 MYR. So now, we have 182.50 MYR giving us 0.03 MYR daily per saving pocket. That means an interest rate of 0.03*365/182.50 = 6% p.a.

Ermmm, so the 1% p.a. bonus interests is not really any advantage... 6% p.a. anyway, just some maths exploration from my side... laugh.gif




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post Aug 18 2025, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(TOS2 @ Aug 18 2025, 05:38 PM)
I looked at the examples they give. They are smart enough to separate the extra bonus 1% p.a. as a separate bonus interest to be paid to the Ryt pocket, so we cannot use round up trick directly here because 0.005*365/0.04 = 45.63 MYR, but 45.63*0.03/365 = 0.0038 MYR which is less than 0.005 MYR so the base interest of 3% p.a. will not be paid, let alone the extra 1% bonus.

The next best alternative is to apply the round up trick, but with a 3% p.a. rate instead of 4% p.a. In this case, 0.005*365/0.03 = 60.84 (the familiar magic number from BoostBank saving pots). If round up trick applies, we should get 0.01 MYR in the original save pocket (for 3% p.a.) but then we miss out again on the extra 1% p.a. because 60.84*0.01/365 = 0.00167 MYR which again is less than 0.005 MYR. Yet effectively we are still earning 6% p.a. because the 3% p.a. interests is rounded-up in this case, even though we totally lose out from the extra 1% interest bonus.

To take advantage of the 1% bonus, we need to fulfill the condition such that the daily interest earned is 0.005 MYR = 1% p.a. Solving this in maths means 0.005*365/0.01 = 182.50 MYR. Now 182.50 MYR in a saving pocket would yield 0.015 MYR interests daily, which rounds up to 0.02 MYR (if round-up tricks apply that is), then the extra 1% p.a. bonus interests would give another 0.005 MYR, again rounded up to 0.01 MYR. So now, we have 182.50 MYR giving us 0.03 MYR daily per saving pocket. That means an interest rate of 0.03*365/182.50 = 6% p.a.

Ermmm, so the 1% p.a. bonus interests is not really any advantage... 6% p.a. anyway, just some maths exploration from my side...  laugh.gif
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There are some potential complications to the way the daily interests are calculated. It really depends on how many decimal points they keep in the system. The Help and Support page on the website is down, so I screenshot it from my phone.

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So if we are aiming for a clean 6% p.a., the 182.50 MYR route is one good way, because there is no residual natural number beyond the third decimal point (daily interests of 0.015 and 0.005 respectively)

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post Aug 18 2025, 07:54 PM

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Created a "House" save pocket and deposited 182.50 MYR. Will update you guys tomorrow on the daily interest payment and verify if the 6% p.a. calculation holds.
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post Aug 18 2025, 08:12 PM

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There is also the BNPL feature called Ryt PayLater which isn't rolled out yet I think.

https://www.rytbank.my/fees-and-limits

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The 1-month 0% interest is tempting, but make sure you clear your outstanding balance strictly within 1 month, otherwise the 26.80% p.a. ridiculous rate will kick in from the coming months onwards.

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post Aug 18 2025, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Aug 18 2025, 08:17 PM)
After getting invite code from TS, my account is set up within 10mins upon transferring RM50 into the account. App seems quite smooth and will transfer more money into Ryt.
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Later cannot transfer out you jialat laugh.gif

Remember to check the Duitnow transfer and QR transfer limits etc.

Max daily limit for BOTH QR and non-QR is 50k MYR. Minimum is 500, default set at 5000 MYR.

Increasing limit will result in a 1-hour cooling-off period, after which the new limit will take effect.

Always think about your exit strategy. biggrin.gif

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post Aug 18 2025, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Aug 18 2025, 08:24 PM)
I just tried using Ryt AI to transfer RM10 into my HLB and immediately rewarded RM1. biggrin.gif
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I redo the same transfer to my GX Bank account 5 times and earn RM 5...

How stupid this promotion is...
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post Aug 19 2025, 12:56 PM

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Updates from my side:

182.50 indeed yields 3 cents (2 in saving pocket, 1 cent in Ryt pocket).

The problem is you can't do this for all 10 saving pockets, because of the way Ryt calculates the bonus interest, i.e., they lump everything together to compute the 1% bonus interest.

If we were to follow their interest calculation example in the bonus interest T&C: https://www.rytbank.my/bonus-interest-campaign

Then they will lump all 10 saving pockets' money together to count the 1% bonus interest, which means 182.50*10*0.01/365 = 0.05 which will NOT be rounded to 0.1

Recall in the ONE pocket case, we have 182.50*0.01/365 = 0.005 which gets rounded up to 0.01, but multiply that by 10 saving pockets and the aggregate interest of 0.05 exceeds 0.01, so you won't get 0.1 but 0.05 only.

This difference means the effective rate is now (0.2+0.05)*365/1825 = 5% p.a. instead of 6% p.a. (Previously effective rate is (0.2+0.1)*365/1825 = 6% p.a.) That 0.005 MYR can cause a 1% drop in effective rate.

That said, I only tried with one saving pocket yesterday, so I am not sure if they count the saving pockets interest in one lump sum or separately. Other sifus and users can confirm that?

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QUOTE(FGG28 @ Aug 19 2025, 07:13 AM)
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Tried all pockets and main account with 60.84. All got 1 cent credited. For the bonus interest of 1% based on total saving pockets of 608.4, will give you extra 2 cents resulting in 7.2% p.a. yield for the 608.4 excluding main account of 60.84
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This method sure works better, with the only risk that the 0000000547... gets carried forward long enough to complicate the daily calculation many months/years down the road. There is no official source on how many decimal points they keep. Examples show 6-7, but no black and white.

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post Aug 19 2025, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Aug 19 2025, 01:03 PM)
you are overcomplicating things dy bro..

I already confirmed it.
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You confirm they merge together or count separately? Too many replies here paiseh sweat.gif

So cannot put 182.50 for per saving pocket * 10 pockets?

FYI, I don't put till the max 20k, just the necessary amount to earn 6-7% p.a.

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post Aug 19 2025, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 19 2025, 03:56 PM)
How toake 6-7%p.a?
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You liked my post and you ask me again? laugh.gif

QUOTE(TOS2 @ Aug 18 2025, 05:38 PM)
I looked at the examples they give. They are smart enough to separate the extra bonus 1% p.a. as a separate bonus interest to be paid to the Ryt pocket, so we cannot use round up trick directly here because 0.005*365/0.04 = 45.63 MYR, but 45.63*0.03/365 = 0.0038 MYR which is less than 0.005 MYR so the base interest of 3% p.a. will not be paid, let alone the extra 1% bonus.

The next best alternative is to apply the round up trick, but with a 3% p.a. rate instead of 4% p.a. In this case, 0.005*365/0.03 = 60.84 (the familiar magic number from BoostBank saving pots). If round up trick applies, we should get 0.01 MYR in the original save pocket (for 3% p.a.) but then we miss out again on the extra 1% p.a. because 60.84*0.01/365 = 0.00167 MYR which again is less than 0.005 MYR. Yet effectively we are still earning 6% p.a. because the 3% p.a. interests is rounded-up in this case, even though we totally lose out from the extra 1% interest bonus.

To take advantage of the 1% bonus, we need to fulfill the condition such that the daily interest earned is 0.005 MYR = 1% p.a. Solving this in maths means 0.005*365/0.01 = 182.50 MYR. Now 182.50 MYR in a saving pocket would yield 0.015 MYR interests daily, which rounds up to 0.02 MYR (if round-up tricks apply that is), then the extra 1% p.a. bonus interests would give another 0.005 MYR, again rounded up to 0.01 MYR. So now, we have 182.50 MYR giving us 0.03 MYR daily per saving pocket. That means an interest rate of 0.03*365/182.50 = 6% p.a.

Ermmm, so the 1% p.a. bonus interests is not really any advantage... 6% p.a. anyway, just some maths exploration from my side...  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(FGG28 @ Aug 19 2025, 07:13 AM)
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Tried all pockets and main account with 60.84. All got 1 cent credited. For the bonus interest of 1% based on total saving pockets of 608.4, will give you extra 2 cents resulting in 7.2% p.a. yield for the 608.4 excluding main account of 60.84
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post Aug 19 2025, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 19 2025, 04:04 PM)
I want a TLDR 😛
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60.84 * (10 pockets + 1 main account) is surely going to work with returns of approximately 7% p.a., as shown in FGG288's post.

I will test with the 182.50 * 10 saving pockets tomorrow, results coming out on Thursday morning and will update you again by then.

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post Aug 19 2025, 05:26 PM

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I have 3 more invite codes on my side. For those interested.
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post Aug 20 2025, 07:58 AM

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From my side:

Place 18/8/2025
1 x Save Pocket RM182.50
Interest received = RM0.03
Rate of Return = 6%

Place 19/8/2025
Still the same 1 x Save Pocket RM182.50
Total Interest received = RM0.01
Rate of Return = 2%

The funny thing is the average is 4% haha
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post Aug 20 2025, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Aug 20 2025, 03:36 AM)
It seems like Ryt is smart to use the residual balance method so customers cant use rounding up to earn the extra cents like Gxbank.

Therefore it is pointless to create so many pockets. We just need one pocket and dump rm20k inside to earn the max of 4%.
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The accountant has spoken, indeed I think the same too. You earn more today, you earn less the next day.

The ridiculous thing is their system allow such borrowing of 0.00X amount from one day to the next. Such short-term borrowing is unheard of in any digital bank. Either you round up interest or you truncate at a certain decimal point.

Coupled with their AI thingie, one day sure will have problem down the road. Can complain to BNM? Or maybe ask Ryt AI why you give me less interest today? tongue.gif

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