I don't know about other classes 'cos i'm not familliar with the spells,
but they nerfed warrior  They took away the disarm immunity,
and they even swapped its place with improved intercept (which is crap) but now i auto learnt
improved intercept 'cos it's in weapon mastery's place... WTF man ???

At least give a free unlearn talent lah...
Then there is this thing about swapped deathwish with sweeping strikes but i'm fine with it
'cos i planned to get DW anyway.

And i'm not happy about the faster leveling either. I'm trying to keep my level low while i farm for
gold and ores to work towards a high level BS weaponsmith before dropping it. You don't wanna drop it
at a high level. Dangit, i'm really affected by this release.     

I see your point on blue text, but you're merely referring to the swapped locations of both skillz.
What i'm upset about is they removed the disarm immunity.... that's a nerf no matter how u see it.

And about red text, it costs more gold to drop out of weapon/armorsmith at higher levels to learn the other.


and they didn't even give a free unlearn talent   

weapons are warrior's bread and butter... without it = no damage.
And you can't even use most of your skills without a weapon.... warriors got nerfed.
reducing 50% time of being disarmed is not good enough.

What do you mean "disarm immunity is applied to everyone" ?
weapon mastery is a warrior-only skill IIRC.
Yes, the new disarm mechanics is applied to everyone..
but the nerfing of weapon mastery is suffered by warriors only.

yeah, of cos i am fussing about a few gold...
'cos i'm not about to pay for nothing.
I ain't paying just becos they fixed a bug/balanced the game.

edit:
what's that item from SM u're talking about?

where to download the patch 2.3 externally? is there any faster source? official to slow for me

Quaza, i need to fill in 2 more points in ARMS..

Which one should i spend if given the choice
- improved hamstring
- improved disciplines
- 2h weapon specialization
- iron will
- improved rend (crap)
- improved thunderclap (crap)

the last 2 are crap, so it's out of consideration.
2h weapon specialization is crap too in my opinion, cos 1% is just too little.
Let's assume i deal 500dmg with a 2h Axe. 1% of that is only an extra 5dmg for every talent point.

If ur still pvping, the pre-dominant spec still stays the same. Nothing much is gonna change with the swapped talents. Although there is some flexibility in going for endurance by speccing 21points into prot.

And disarm is more disadvantage to us is cos our avoidance are normally much lesser than rogues. Granted rogues and warriors are the dominant force in melee ( dun take ret pallies n enh shamans into a/c, they were a given to be disarm pre-patch 2.3) the number of times i see the word dodge when i try to disarm a rogue is literally countless. Hence it does puts us in a lousier situation than a rogue.

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Added on November 14, 2007, 11:45 am

Are u speccing for pvp? And are u lvl 70?

@.@
warrior vs rogue, disarm = overpower bait ? 
but once rogue disarm us, we can't do shi-

Will you be mutilate or AR/Prep?

So....

- Iron Will or
- 2H Weapon Specialization or
- Improved ThunderClap ?

i can't make up my mind 
I need to spend 2 points, help me choose. 

Patch 2.3 discussion?

I thought the new Battlemaster pvp trinkets (Audacity, Perseverence, etc) are purchased with Honor points. Wtf now they have to be purchased with freaking Badges of Justice?

And I hoarded 35k honor points just to get me one of those trinkets. -______________-

Hey king83, why not post it on wow forums and see what kind of response you get? Not happy send a ticket or a petition to Blizzard.
I've been playing WoW since it beta days. Numerous talent,spells,exploits had been taking out and added on since that very first
day till now. The reason is to balance out every class, which is very far almost there but i believe it's really hard to do so.
Rant more about your f***ing warrior? Mentioning about priest, I am a shadow spec priest i PvP at least 6 hours a day,  1 hour arena and 5 hours
BG's. I am not trying to show off whether i am good in PvPing or not, rather the fact i believe that i PvP more than you do. Priest why do they need a nerfing? Beacuse they heal when you hit them? Or the power word shield?

I've never spec holy besides when i was helping my very first guild taking down Ragnaros in MC after that i was full shadow from BWL, AQ20,40,ZG and even till Naxx.

What did shadowpriest get for PvP skills/TBC? A shadow word death that backlash myself if not time properly? A 400 dot persecond that generates mana? Thats the only two new offensive spells that i get, and i don't want to pin point on warriors, what about Warlocks? Rogues? Warlock, chain fear dots and pet? Rogue chain stun lock and combo points + cloak of shadow which removes all shadow dots and +90% shadow resist? How would you feel playing a shadow caster? Mage ice spec? Ice block which removes all dot and freeze yoursef? As a priest the only Viable CC i have in PvP is fear which even warrior has it? Which resist most of it time or even breaking it after 1.5 seconds? If you wanna surivive seriously learn to plan and learn to adapt, there are numerous videos out there showing specified class owning in PvP and of course in PvP gear check is also needed.

Want a rant? I do hope the additional +2hrs maintenance is to nerf locks,rogue,war.

I don;t really care if you stereotype me with your QQ lock's or what i am just telling the obvious, that all games ppl whine and say its OP OP OP just that you gotta live with it, when not knowing other class also suffers when they buff a particular class. No ty when a good player truly plays it character properly and master it, again stereo as OP? = )

As a priest the only Viable CC i have in PvP is fear which even warrior has it? Which resist most of it time or even breaking it after 1.5 seconds?

Ahh cool, thanks for the info!
Lucky bugger!

If only i could sell the remaining 200+ badges in my bank....