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cherroy
post Nov 15 2007, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(vanliren @ Nov 15 2007, 07:52 PM)
Hi all, so sorry to make you all so blur about this.

Actually what im trying to do just wish you all to give some advice on this MW.

Obviously, it is not like M-Money or what....It is Mobile Wallet. Of cause we need to top up cash to MW to use as a WALLET to buy things. There is no charges on the users when they spend. But when users spend (pay bills, reload..etc) , the charges go to user instead of the pos office and etc.

So, this project is already running for 3 years. But is not user friendly, like what waCKy-Angel said. So now, MW is going to expand the business by upgrading thier system. It needs money of cause. So, the money that we invest is for the expansion in business. The MW Square is one of the project MW going to run. (you may find out more about MW Square in the website) .

As we are the pioneers in MW in the new projects, they give us the return such as the percentage I mentioned. x% + x% meaning the return MW give us on 5th and 20th everymonth. The money goes to users's phone. So that users may spend it as MOBILE WALLET  or transfer all or partial of the money to the bank account.
Hope this can make some of you clear about it.

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This is the fishy part especially the 'investment' plan, invest 11k get 5% + 5% monthly, then invest 22k get 6% so on, the company not yet making money then how they are going to give return to you.
Only pyramid scheme can do it for the return rate.

Mind to explain more otherwise promote pyramid scheme is prohibited in this forum.
Nowadays, a lot of pyramid scheme like to use MLM or innovative product to camouflage their scheme, just becareful.

A lot of people know what is Mobile-money, Hong Leong bank also initiative one before, but definitely not the type of mobile-money as you mentioned in the investment plan.

So please explain in details about it especially the 'investment plan part', otherwise a lot of people will perceive as another 'get rich quick' scheme and thread will be closed then.
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post Nov 15 2007, 09:57 PM

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Citi also got their own method....pay bills by mobile phone
https://www.citibank.com.my/APPS/portal/gen...ile_payment.htm
or this:
https://www.citibank.com.my/APPS/portal/gen.../digi_remit.htm
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post Nov 15 2007, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(vanliren @ Nov 14 2007, 01:19 AM)
Hi all, have you heard about MobileWallet? It is a new trends in Malaysia. It is approved by BNM in e-money.
www.bnm.gov.my. It is shown in e-money...legal in Malaysia. MW brings HUGE money to me.

PM me for details. Possible to meet up in KL.

p/s: sorry if I promoting MW here.
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got listened to it's concept...

too bad, it cant be heat up in Msia yet...
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post Nov 15 2007, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 15 2007, 09:05 PM)
This is the fishy part especially the 'investment' plan, invest 11k get 5% + 5% monthly, then invest 22k get 6% so on, the company not yet making money then how they are going to give return to you.
Only pyramid scheme can do it for the return rate.

Mind to explain more otherwise promote pyramid scheme is prohibited in this forum.
Nowadays, a lot of pyramid scheme like to use MLM or innovative product to camouflage their scheme, just becareful.

A lot of people know what is Mobile-money, Hong Leong bank also initiative one before, but definitely not the type of mobile-money as you mentioned in the investment plan.

So please explain in details about it especially the 'investment plan part', otherwise a lot of people will perceive as another 'get rich quick' scheme and thread will be closed then.
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I'm wondering, if it is pyramid or some get rich quick scheme, why MW can be listed in BNM website? Anyone...? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(vanliren @ Nov 15 2007, 11:36 PM)
I'm wondering, if it is pyramid or some get rich quick scheme, why MW can be listed in BNM website? Anyone...? unsure.gif
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can u show us the bnm link to the company ????
Reason why the listed under bnm ?
The business proposal is legal on e-money, e-wallet or MW, i think nothing mention abt MLM or collecting public fund.

Why we don't trust and find fishy ?
44k is not huge amount but with 14% monthly ROI is far beyond current investment method ....
Imagine 44k * 168 % = 73920 annual return, i can't imagine how much will i make in the next three year.




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My uncle is the members of mobile wallet. He already get free air ticket to Taiwan, 1 massage chair, and every month on 5th and 20th of the month, he will get certain amount of cash from this company.

MW is certified by Bank Negara but is it really safe ? Although my uncle manage to get all those benefits, I still not so sure whether it's safe.
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Lately got many of investment around. Dont know cheat money or what. Just like Diamond also got this investment where u start with 10k or 30k which I cant really remember. Honestly I rather save my money inside bank or buy properties rather than put inside these scheme. Easy to go in but very hard to get out.
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post Nov 16 2007, 08:09 PM

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Well, this is the link :

www.bnm.gov.my
go under Hyperlink then E-money link.

See also under www.mobilewallet2u.com. You will find MAVCAP is also the investor in MW.

So, look www.mavcap.com and find out what is it.


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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 15 2007, 09:05 PM)
This is the fishy part especially the 'investment' plan, invest 11k get 5% + 5% monthly, then invest 22k get 6% so on, the company not yet making money then how they are going to give return to you.
Only pyramid scheme can do it for the return rate.

Mind to explain more otherwise promote pyramid scheme is prohibited in this forum.
Nowadays, a lot of pyramid scheme like to use MLM or innovative product to camouflage their scheme, just becareful.

A lot of people know what is Mobile-money, Hong Leong bank also initiative one before, but definitely not the type of mobile-money as you mentioned in the investment plan.

So please explain in details about it especially the 'investment plan part', otherwise a lot of people will perceive as another 'get rich quick' scheme and thread will be closed then.
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this is "supposed" to be a legal company, said to be running an emall where there are certain products of which u can buy using ur mobile phone.
from what i know, MW is another form of MLM promoting their service+products and is recognized by malaysian govn(came out in newspaper before).
but as we all know, there are numerous company set up with a legal business plan to camouflage their "underground" activities. i'm not concluding here that this company is doing something not right, but just that whenever investment involving huge amount of money is needed(and the best part is u dont need to work to get your return), something is fishy. erm, like SUNSHINE EMPIRE?
logically thinking, if they really have a darn good business plan to work out, the company should have gotten loan from banks instead of collecting money from public to fund their projects, and just a reminder here, only authorized institutions can collect funds for investment from public, and thats what our Securities Commision are for. right?

just my humble opinion.
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post Nov 17 2007, 01:02 AM

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They should take loan from banks. But what is the requirement to get big loan amount? Does it banned in SC?
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post Nov 17 2007, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(beginner @ Nov 17 2007, 12:44 AM)
this is "supposed" to be a legal company, said to be running an emall where there are certain products of which u can buy using ur mobile phone.
from what i know, MW is another form of MLM promoting their service+products and is recognized by malaysian govn(came out in newspaper before).
but as we all know, there are numerous company set up with a legal business plan to camouflage their "underground" activities. i'm not concluding here that this company is doing something not right, but just that whenever investment involving huge amount of money is needed(and the best part is u dont need to work to get your return), something is fishy. erm, like SUNSHINE EMPIRE?
logically thinking, if they really have a darn good business plan to work out, the company should have gotten loan from banks instead of collecting money from public to fund their projects, and just a reminder here, only authorized institutions can collect funds for investment from public, and thats what our Securities Commision are for. right?

just my humble opinion.
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That's true, that's why we must very careful and scrutinise about it before commiting.

Taking public money to fund project means that the company founder or CEO carries no risk to run it, after all it is the public money not him/her, he/she has nothing to lose. But proponants will argue that it let public to share the profit, definitely tongue.gif

This is a grey area, as MLM can say it is a membership fee not public fund for investment then it will not violate the SC rule or need to obey the SC regulations. Their idea become clever and clever each time to exploit the grey area.

I am not saying this regarding MW or not, just we want to make clear what is that about each time.

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post Nov 18 2007, 09:49 PM

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Hi, i have find out from my friends. It is indeed a MLM company with LEGAL marketing plan. It is doing business. No harm trying...I'm going all out to try!! hehe.
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post Nov 22 2007, 12:46 PM

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invest 11k then 5% per annum + 5% monthly?

mean get rm550 per month?
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QUOTE(prepaids4u @ Nov 22 2007, 12:46 PM)
invest 11k then 5% per annum + 5% monthly?

mean get rm550 per month?
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Hi, as what i know, is 5% on the 5th and 5% on the 20th. Meaning that getting about RM 1000 per month. Hehe. Good stuff ya...
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post Nov 22 2007, 08:42 PM

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vanliren, just an advise.
One needs to find out the logic behind how a company is able to give out the so called 5% + 5%. The payout seems too good to be true. That's basically 10% per month.
I've never come across business that can provide that good ROI yet. To sustain the payout, the company's profit must be at around 30% ROI per month which is virtually impossible in my assumptions. Simple logic is the 10% earning would be distributed to you guys as investor. Another 10% for salary payout to it's own staffs (assuming only little amount of staffs) and another 10% for the director's own profit.
But since it is involving in technology advancement, and needing lots of intellectual staffs, I doubted that the 10% as salary part is enough.

Simply illogical payout method. Sorry but can't convince me.
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QUOTE(vanliren @ Nov 16 2007, 08:09 PM)
Well, this is the link :

www.bnm.gov.my
go under Hyperlink then E-money link.

See also under www.mobilewallet2u.com. You will find MAVCAP is also the investor in MW.

So, look www.mavcap.com and find out what is it.
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come across all those site but none of them explain or indicate the 5+5% monthly investment scheme/something similar .......
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post Nov 24 2007, 06:05 PM

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Wel, will inform when I get my 1st pay here. hehe...Pray for me.
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My friend told me his uncle invest RM 40k in it. And his uncle can change mobile phone (already change and his uncle change 3 N95) using the point. Where can we actually view what item we can change using the point method ?
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post Dec 1 2007, 04:47 PM

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According to what I know, we "invest" 40k then we can get 40k points. Use these points to change what we want. Including phones and massage chairs. GreAT!!!
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QUOTE(vanliren @ Dec 1 2007, 04:47 PM)
According to what I know, we "invest" 40k then we can get 40k points. Use these points to change what we want. Including phones and massage chairs. GreAT!!!
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Why so fuss or hassle, it really want to spend, why not just use the 40k cash to buy, need to change to points to buy? rclxub.gif


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