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post Aug 4 2025, 01:43 PM, updated 4 months ago

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apparently me mum bought one of these hydrogen inhaler machine (maybe not the same model & brand) and claimed it will help with her GERD and asthma. she spent RM3k on it. sweat.gif

how to use: inhale using the breathing apparatus, or drink the hydrogen-infused water
alleged health benefits; reduced inflammation, allergies, etc the usual MLM 'all-cure/panacea' claims

the brand & description of this product and it's so called 'health benefits' screamed like typical MLM snake oil to me and made me a bit angry at her for falling for yet another MLM snake oil for so many times, and the sale agents for scamming the elderly. bangwall.gif bangwall.gif ranting.gif
thinking logically, why would you even need hydrogen-infused air or water when hydrogen is already there in the composition of air and water that's already around you and the water u drink.

but as I googled around more, there are several research articles (not much, but there are a few) of 'oxyhydrogen therapy' and evidences of health benefits from such therapy. One from KKM even; KKM MAHTAS
Science Direct
NBCI

granted, the oxyhydrogen inhaler machines the hospitals using are different models than these MLM machines, probably more sophisticated and different mixture ratio of oxygen & hydrogen

so idk, what u guys think, snake oil? hmm.gif still feels like a snake oil for me
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post Aug 4 2025, 01:54 PM

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when it sound like BS, it is BS indeed
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Aug 4 2025, 01:43 PM)
apparently me mum bought one of these hydrogen inhaler machine (maybe not the same model & brand) and claimed it will help with her GERD and asthma. she spent RM3k on it.  sweat.gif

how to use: inhale using the breathing apparatus, or drink the hydrogen-infused water
alleged health benefits; reduced inflammation, allergies, etc the usual MLM 'all-cure/panacea' claims

the brand & description of this product and it's so called 'health benefits' screamed like typical MLM snake oil to me and made me a bit angry at her for falling for yet another MLM snake oil for so many times, and the sale agents for scamming the elderly.  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  ranting.gif
thinking logically, why would you even need hydrogen-infused air or water when hydrogen is already there in the composition of air and water that's already around you and the water u drink.

but as I googled around more, there are several research articles (not much, but there are a few) of 'oxyhydrogen therapy' and evidences of health benefits from such therapy. One from KKM even; KKM MAHTAS
Science Direct
NBCI

granted, the oxyhydrogen inhaler machines the hospitals using are different models than these MLM machines, probably more sophisticated and different mixture ratio of oxygen & hydrogen

so idk, what u guys think, snake oil?  hmm.gif  still feels like a snake oil for me
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Hydrogen has antioxidant , anti inflammatory and neuroprotective. Because it scavenges free radicals.

What snake oil? You should at least ask gemini, copilot , chatgpt first. There is no excuse for ignorance these days of age.

Not commeting on the product though. Not gonna click yt.

Need to be careful of reductive stress though ive seen cases and discussed with one scientist regading this paradox.

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post Aug 4 2025, 02:17 PM

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marketing gimmic, but it helps psychologically
inhaling makes u feels good

infusing hydrogen into water is great, but H2O is just H2O.
Similarly for oxygenated drink.
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post Aug 4 2025, 02:37 PM

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H2? Lol......

since ur mom bought it.... let her use and tell us the result
but while doing this... pls tell me how they generate H2.

what is the H2 concentration? do you know the explosion limit of H2


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post Aug 4 2025, 03:05 PM

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if it works, it would be used mainstream and by doctors worldwide.

did you see one in your local or private clinic? this would answer your question.

also the studies done, lol what a joke . the sample size so small.
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3k......lucky not 30k
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what company? can complain to moh
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ok. I watched the video, it mentioned that the hydrogen purity of 99.996%. If you possessed certain science knowledge you will see how BS this is... H2 is extremely flammable at such a purity, it reacts with O2 and create massive fire if not explosion.

and the youtube ads doesn't even mention the source of H2? from electrolysis? from cylinder?

and again, it does not even mentioned if inhale in fully H2 or mixture of H2 + O2? again, our body can't inhale air with less than 19.5% oxygen in it. fully inhale H2 or if the H2 and O2 is not well manage it can make someone faint immediately or even die from it?

Ok, I think i raised enough questions on this thing. Please consider carefully once again before consume it.
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If it doesn't burn in blue flame then is not hydrogen.


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post Aug 4 2025, 06:19 PM

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Hydrogen is flammable

How the heck they get that high purity of h2 also? BS liao la
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Lazy watch also know retarded shit. Assuming it can even purify until high concentration, user will just asphyxiate themselves, before blowing themselves up. If low concentration, will just disperse before it can do anything.
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why they no smell Hydrogen sulfide, snake oil product

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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Aug 4 2025, 03:05 PM)
if it works, it would be used mainstream and by doctors worldwide.

did you see one in your local or private clinic? this would answer your question.

also the studies done, lol what a joke . the sample size so small.
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same as cure for cancer, doctor dont really want them so they can sell more healthcare services

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post Aug 4 2025, 10:03 PM

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If your mother studied chemistry, then she would know her RM 3k is down the drain.

Hydrogen is flammable and almost never exists on its own because it's way too reactive. Out in the open, it'll immediately react with the oxygen, which is an exothermic reaction, so it generates heat, hence explosion.

In 7yo language, basically hydrogen pair are 2 very naughty elements way too excited to bond with someone especially oxygen, and that bond will be so fast and powerful it explodes.

I understand not everyone studied chemistry, and I don't fault your ignorance. I watched my mom buy quantum science medallions and she was so confidently telling me this shit works wonders with our health... 🥹

Tldr:
1. See word "quantum", RUN
2. Anything messing with the atmospheric air composition, RUN. Your body is made to inhale the natural, clean air out there.
3. See dihydrogen oxide, drink lots ok

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more likely its a brown gas generator, like those used for car
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QUOTE(Takudan @ Aug 4 2025, 10:03 PM)
If your mother studied chemistry, then she would know her RM 3k is down the drain.

Hydrogen is flammable and almost never exists on its own because it's way too reactive. Out in the open, it'll immediately react with the oxygen, which is an exothermic reaction, so it generates heat, hence explosion.

In 7yo language, basically hydrogen pair are 2 very naughty elements way too excited to bond with someone especially oxygen, and that bond will be so fast and powerful it explodes.

I understand not everyone studied chemistry, and I don't fault your ignorance. I watched my mom buy quantum science medallions and she was so confidently telling me this shit works wonders with our health... 🥹

Tldr:
1. See word "quantum", RUN
2. Anything messing with the atmospheric air composition, RUN. Your body is made to inhale the natural, clean air out there.
3. See dihydrogen oxide, drink lots ok
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not just studied chemistry, she was a retired chemistry teacher. sweat.gif bro, literally the same thing I kept telling her again & again for so many years; "you were a chemistry teacher for god's sake, think logically for just one sec before buying all these stuff!"
but what to do, some of us have stubborn parent bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(Clueless07 @ Aug 4 2025, 02:37 PM)
H2? Lol......

since ur mom bought it.... let her use and tell us the result
but while doing this... pls tell me how they generate H2.

what is the H2 concentration?  do you know the explosion limit of H2
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pretty sure it's generated by the machine via electrolysis. not sure on the concentration but that's another concern as well, i know very well how dangerous/flammable hydrogen can be.
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post Aug 4 2025, 11:24 PM

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A cheap handheld nebulizer with 3% hyperneb saline OR a himalayan coarse salt inhaler modded by using a 200-300ml mineral water bottle with poked holes underneath is more effective. Both dry and wet salt therapy user here..
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Aug 4 2025, 10:57 PM)
not just studied chemistry, she was a retired chemistry teacher.  sweat.gif bro, literally the same thing I kept telling her again & again for so many years; "you were a chemistry teacher for god's sake, think logically for just one sec before buying all these stuff!"
but what to do, some of us have stubborn parent  bangwall.gif
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Wah chemistry teacher, that's Hollywood level plot twist bro...

Sorry but I don't have a good solution for you. For my mom's case, she's very healthy conscious and reads/watches a lot of health info. She has fallen prey to many fake info (the frequently forwarded WhatsApp fear mongering messages...), so we educated her for every hoax she shared. We also discussed some real life cases happening around us.

I can only say just chat with her to understand her more, including what she's up to lately. If she's not burning her children's money then it's really out of your hands -- placebo effect is also very effective so let her enjoy her retirement money. 🥹

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