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post Jul 1 2025, 03:45 PM, updated 5 months ago

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Seeking help and advise from sifos.

is it possible? i am thinking of using J hooks mounted on 2 M5 butterfly anchors. The mini ceiling fan weighs about 2.5kg, weight wise, i think it should be ok.
i am more worried about the vibration created by the ceiling fan, will caused the hole on plaster ceiling to become loose overtime due to vibration?

please advise.

many thanks in advance...
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post Jul 1 2025, 03:54 PM

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curious to know too, mainly for ventilation in bathroom

but would expect due to vibration - yes, weight wise should be fine but the constant vibration can weaken the support and eventually drop

hence have been thinking of doing wall mounted fan instead, kindly advise any other alternatives
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post Jul 1 2025, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Ludwig. @ Jul 1 2025, 03:54 PM)
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curious to know too, mainly for ventilation in bathroom

but would expect due to vibration - yes, weight wise should be fine but the constant vibration can weaken the support and eventually drop

hence have been thinking of doing wall mounted fan instead, kindly advise any other alternatives
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mounting a wall fan look in bathroom look kinda weird, though...

like i said earlier, vibration will be biggest concern here. let's see if there is any sifo can share some light on this issue.
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post Jul 1 2025, 04:08 PM

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best to mount directly to the cement.
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post Jul 1 2025, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jul 1 2025, 04:08 PM)
best to mount directly to the cement.
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Yes. I would not try to hang something moving/vibrating and quite heavy.

How far is the actual ceiling behind the plaster ceiling. Can get someone to install bracket there. Most plaster ceiling is very thin type hold by metal frame. I put butterfly hook to the metal frame for my lamp and the LED light is very light.
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post Jul 1 2025, 04:31 PM

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you need a wood block on top of plaster ceiling to screw your hook
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post Jul 1 2025, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(jamesteoh8177 @ Jul 1 2025, 03:45 PM)
Home reno sifo...

Seeking help and advise from sifos.

is it possible? i am thinking of using J hooks mounted on 2 M5 butterfly anchors. The mini ceiling fan weighs about 2.5kg, weight wise, i think it should be ok.
i am more worried about the vibration created by the ceiling fan, will caused the hole on plaster ceiling to become loose overtime due to vibration?

please advise.

many thanks in advance...
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Any size is fine but depends on position of lights. If budget get the semi branded like Alpha or what not. Don't go for those stupid design design shit with light. I mounted my fan direct to ceiling though there is plaster there is support from main ceiling u hook concealed.

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post Jul 1 2025, 09:12 PM

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Why not wall mount fan? There are many stylish design wall fans in the market.
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post Jul 2 2025, 03:14 AM

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Just mount it properly, to the actual plaster ceiling support frame OR put a long 2x4 so its UDL and secured to the frame of plaster ceiling.
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post Jul 2 2025, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jul 1 2025, 04:20 PM)
Yes. I would not try to hang something moving/vibrating and quite heavy.

How far is the actual ceiling behind the plaster ceiling. Can get someone to install bracket there. Most plaster ceiling is very thin type hold by metal frame. I put butterfly hook to the metal frame for my lamp and the LED light is very light.
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2' ++ (almost 3'), too high up. I did the same for LED lights. These LED lights are lightweight and they do not vibrate, till now they stay on the plaster ceiling fine without any issues.
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post Jul 2 2025, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(anakkk @ Jul 1 2025, 04:31 PM)
you need a wood block on top of plaster ceiling to screw your hook
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its good idea, will take a look on my ceiling later today. see how i can fit a wood block.

thanks again
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QUOTE(swing123 @ Jul 1 2025, 09:12 PM)
Why not wall mount fan? There are many stylish design wall fans in the market.
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its not about style. wall would not be able to delivery the feel of wind like a ceiling fan and the home minister does approved for a wall fan to be mounted in the first place doh.gif doh.gif
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post Jul 2 2025, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ Jul 1 2025, 04:33 PM)
Any size is fine but depends on position of lights. If budget get  the semi branded like Alpha or what not. Don't go for those stupid design design shit with light. I mounted my fan direct to ceiling though there is plaster there is support from main ceiling u hook concealed.
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the gap between plaster ceiling and cement ceiling is around 2' ++ (almost 3'). not the ideal way, out these put these hooks.
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post Jul 2 2025, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(jamesteoh8177 @ Jul 2 2025, 10:04 AM)
its good idea, will take a look on my ceiling later today. see how i can fit a wood block.

thanks again
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cos I bought some screwed on downlight for plaster ceiling, the guy go get a wood and put on the plaster ceiling, then screw it on, from there I know how they did :X, if just screw on plaster ceiling, those are gypsum board, once hole is made, you cannot remake the hole at the same place.



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post Jul 2 2025, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(jamesteoh8177 @ Jul 2 2025, 10:04 AM)
its good idea, will take a look on my ceiling later today. see how i can fit a wood block.

thanks again
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Instead of just fan, now you are adding a wood block to put more weight though it may distribute load. However, you also worries about vibration. More likely this will amplify sound from vibrating plaster ceiling smile.gif

Add a steel U bracket to cement above to equal the surface of the plaster ceiling and hook the fan to it like one other suggest is a better choice. Cutout of plaster ceiling when working on bracket can be easily patch back.
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QUOTE(anakkk @ Jul 2 2025, 10:24 AM)
cos I bought some screwed on downlight for plaster ceiling, the guy go get a wood and put on the plaster ceiling, then screw it on, from there I know how they did :X, if just screw on plaster ceiling, those are gypsum board, once hole is made, you cannot remake the hole at the same place.


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I though you were talking about putting wood block on plaster ceiling frame. This is more like actually use the real ceiling to hold the load. This should be okay then.
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jul 2 2025, 11:04 AM)
I though you were talking about putting wood block on plaster ceiling frame. This is more like actually use the real ceiling to hold the load. This should be okay then.
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usually that's how they did it, direct to plaster ceiling is a big no
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QUOTE(anakkk @ Jul 2 2025, 11:06 AM)
usually that's how they did it, direct to plaster ceiling is a big no
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This is when you have access from top like from roof above. If you have plaster ceiling under concrete floor like on ground floor, then you have to make a cut to plaster ceiling to install bracket and then patch the ceiling again. smile.gif
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post Jul 3 2025, 12:43 AM

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if your ceiling dont have alu frame you cannot install hook. If you have, then no need to add wood like shown above also can, depends what hook you get.
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post Jul 3 2025, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(qwerty223 @ Jul 3 2025, 12:43 AM)
if your ceiling dont have alu frame you cannot install hook. If you have, then no need to add wood like shown above also can, depends what hook you get.
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nope, dont have alluminium frames
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post Jul 3 2025, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(jamesteoh8177 @ Jul 1 2025, 03:45 PM)
Home reno sifo...

Seeking help and advise from sifos.

is it possible? i am thinking of using J hooks mounted on 2 M5 butterfly anchors. The mini ceiling fan weighs about 2.5kg, weight wise, i think it should be ok.
i am more worried about the vibration created by the ceiling fan, will caused the hole on plaster ceiling to become loose overtime due to vibration?

please advise.

many thanks in advance...
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If direct hang on the plaster board, after some time anchors will loose, especially on gypsum board.
U can try search "embedded ceiling fan"
is like a box fan, u need to open a square hole like for exhaust fan, then put the box fan there.

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post Jul 3 2025, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(idealhometech @ Jul 3 2025, 01:38 PM)
If direct hang on the plaster board, after some time anchors will loose, especially on gypsum board.
U can try search "embedded ceiling fan"
is like a box fan, u need to open a square hole like for exhaust fan, then put the box fan there.

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looks like an air con unit but only normal air... hehehe
thanks, will consider this as an option
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QUOTE(jamesteoh8177 @ Jul 3 2025, 01:53 PM)
looks like an air con unit but only normal air... hehehe
thanks, will consider this as an option
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post Jul 3 2025, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jul 3 2025, 02:08 PM)
the distance between plaster ceiling actual celing is around 1'++ (my guess). mine is almost 2'++(almost 3', i think). worst i have no way of getting up there. apart a small hole on the plaster ceiling for wiring purpose.
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QUOTE(jamesteoh8177 @ Jul 3 2025, 02:27 PM)
the distance between plaster ceiling actual celing is around 1'++ (my guess). mine is almost 2'++(almost 3', i think). worst i have no way of getting up there. apart a small hole on the plaster ceiling for wiring purpose.
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Cut a hole
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jul 3 2025, 02:37 PM)
Cut a hole
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that would be the last resort.

as it is, i try not make big holes. cutting holes required me patch up and then need to repaint it.

too much work, i am trying to keep it as simple as possible, while searching for tips and ideas from sifos.
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Use magnet to find where the plaster ceiling furring channel is.
Use wood that is long enough to bridge 2 furring channels.
The wood must also be thick enough to attach fan hook.
Cut hole at the fan base that is big enough for the wood.
Insert wood until bridged and the hook is protruding from the hole.
Screw through plaster ceiling and furring channel into wood to attach.
Attach fan and hope the fan base cover is big enough to cover the hole. Otherwise must patch.

 

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