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Advice Wanted Life after my divorce, New chapter

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nickisthemost
post Jul 1 2025, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(pkn_jet @ Jun 30 2025, 09:39 AM)
What puzzles me:

- If a girl does not like you, or only treat you as a bro - will she ever let someone to pick her up from airport, and let you send her home?
- If the stop-text was final, she still agreed to meet up, and treat the text was not ever sent (i prepared that it will be an awkward meet-up)
- Getting close > Reject > Reconnect > Avoidant

In anyway, I'm trying to moved on from her and meeting someone new.  Deep down, the mixed signals are still lingering. 

Share with me your view on this situation  notworthy.gif
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Thank you for sharing that. Your honesty shows a lot of self-awareness, and I can see you're trying to find clarity and peace after something emotionally confusing. Let’s break this down piece by piece:

🔄 The Mixed Signals
You're describing a cycle that many people experience:

Getting close → Rejection → Reconnection → Avoidance → Confusion

This kind of push-pull behavior is emotionally exhausting, especially when the signals don’t match the words. It leaves you constantly second-guessing what’s real.

🛬 Picking Her Up from the Airport
You asked: Would someone who doesn't like you do that?

Here’s the hard truth:
Yes, some people will accept care and help even if they don’t feel romantically toward the person offering it. Not necessarily out of manipulation—sometimes it's comfort, habit, or even guilt. Some don’t know how to draw clear boundaries themselves, and that confusion gets passed on to you.

📵 The “Stop-Text” That Was Ignored
You clearly took the initiative to set a boundary. That's strong. But when she acted like it never happened, it likely invalidated your emotional effort and left you off-balance.

If she was emotionally mature, she should have acknowledged that message and asked if reconnecting was okay.

The fact that she didn't may mean:

She doesn't know what she wants

She enjoys the emotional closeness without commitment

Or she isn’t respecting your boundaries

❌ Avoidant Behavior
You described her as becoming avoidant. That often means someone is emotionally overwhelmed or doesn't want to deal with discomfort. Avoidant people may pull close for emotional security, then push away when intimacy gets real.

In other words: She may want the closeness without the cost.

💬 My View
You're not crazy or weak for being confused. Mixed signals are powerful because they exploit hope—hope that things are meaningful, that feelings are mutual, or that it might just work out.

But here’s the key:

If you’re constantly decoding someone’s behavior, they’re not showing up clearly.

Clarity is kindness. Mixed signals, whether intentional or not, are a form of emotional unavailability.

🙌 Moving On
You're already doing the right thing—meeting new people, focusing on forward movement. That lingering feeling? That’s just your heart catching up to what your mind already knows.

You don’t have to hate her. But you owe it to yourself to stop investing in someone who isn’t showing up fully.

If you want, I can help you:

Draft a final closure message

Reflect on what to look for next time

Or just be here to listen

Either way, I respect where you’re at. You're not alone in this.

QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Jun 30 2025, 10:41 AM)
Yup. I have male friends that I'll send/fetch to/from the airport and vice versa. Close friends, nothing more than that. Usually we will "pay back" by helping to buy some duty free gifts or belanja makan or something. I don't see what's wrong with allowing a close male friend to pick me up from the airport and send me home.
Stop text was to tell you to back off and that she doesn't see you like that, cause you might have been pursuing her romantically. Not everyone defaults to enemies or strangers after a rejection. It's fine to still be friends, even close friends. If both are mature enough, you guys can still have a fulfilling long term friendship. She's mature enough for that, and she even drew the line clearly for you so you know where you stand in her eyes.
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No F*ckin way, how many of your male friends is single ? Can you imagine telling their gf/wife that they are fetching their "close" female friend lolz


QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Jun 30 2025, 02:19 PM)
That may be the case for you, but good male/female friendships do exist for others.
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Yes, they do exist but not for the same motives/reasons. Don't believe me? try tell them you are romantically interested in them.

There is almost no benefits for a guy to be good/close friend with a woman. It benefits women more than men. Only few exception like fwb.




nickisthemost
post Jul 2 2025, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Jul 2 2025, 11:44 AM)
You are too narrow minded.

I have a number of good/close female friends.

In terms of benefits, its pretty similar to having a good/close male friend. Good friends will go a bit out of the way to help you out.

Life is better with good friends in this world, regardless of sex.
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It's not narrow minded, it's reality. I'm not talking about exceptions but in general.

No matter how progressive we are, we will always revert back to our instinct.

Give me few good examples of good/close female friend is equivalent to a male friend.

QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jul 2 2025, 02:53 PM)
Hey bro, long time no see. How you doing?

Anyway, there are benefits to being good friends with a woman. They have a different perspectives and approach than guys. Its often easier to explore problems/emotions with women compared to men.
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I'm doing great, still much more to learn about life. How bout you? Did you get what you wish for in life?

We can get perspectives from female acquaintances doesn't need to be "close" friend, being close require extra effort and getting less in return. In another term a waste of time and resources. Here's the irony, the more I ignore them trying getting close to me, the more they are interested. If only these beta males know these unspoken wisdom.

If I wanted to explore my problem/emotions let it be my gf/wife. Or better yet in the bed 😆. Ain't got no time for these spoiled brats.

This post has been edited by nickisthemost: Jul 2 2025, 04:48 PM
nickisthemost
post Jul 3 2025, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jul 2 2025, 07:46 PM)
Pretty much smile.gif Life always throws curve balls, but overall I'm happy with what I have
I'm glad you're still here. Ok, quick recap who do you miss the most? Gotta be me rite ? rite ? 😂

@PIOPIO i miss you 😘

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You're still looking at them as partner potential, rather than friend, that's why you think that way. If you graduate from that thinking, you'll notice you won't be talking about your friendships in such a transactional way.

You won't get good perspectives from acquittances because they don't really know you, so anything said to you would be generic crap. There are also some things you can't talk to your wife about, at least not right away without building up to it. Which is why therapist and counsellors exist. Friends can often take those roles whether male/female.
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It got nothing to do with seeing them as potential partner. Oh we will never graduate from having fun lolz.

No shot. Female acquaintances that I know will give me good perspectives not because of how close we are, but generally because they are just good people. Plus, getting a good female perspective is already a low bar in terms of benefits.

Therapists/counsellors are trained—they are not the same.





nickisthemost
post Jul 3 2025, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Jul 3 2025, 07:42 AM)
I don't disagree with you that a lot of these friendships have an ulterior motive. However, platonic friendships between male and female do exist.
How platonic can it get? Are you comfortable enough seeing each other naked ?

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You need to understand that not every relationship is about sex, not every female friend is out to get you and take advantage of your kindness. There are people who are mature enough to understand that relationships are beyond those transactional benefits and kindness goes both ways.
Kindness goes both ways, but it's always men that extended their kindness more than women. I'm not saying they shouldn't.


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I've done trips with a close guy friend of over 10 years. He was attached to someone at that time. I was attached too. No romantic interest at all. Some of the other close guy friends might have had romantic interest in the past but that's old news. They have had girlfriends or gotten married with kids and we would hang out together with their wife/gf and my partner too. We buy gifts for each other, take turns to belanja each other, we would do hobbies together, play games together, travel together, talk shit together, vent and rant to each other, help each other out when in need, etc. Just like any friends would do, regardless of gender.

But I do see your point, there are guys like you too. Nothing wrong with that. Everyone is different that way.
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What if he is not attached? Vice versa. Why the need to emphasize it? It's a platonic relationship after all lolz

Btw belanja here and there is normal, i did that too. I'm talking about the one that goes out of their way to help.


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post Jul 3 2025, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Jul 3 2025, 05:42 PM)
Are you comfortable seeing your guy friends naked? I don't get that question cause I wouldn't be comfortable with anyone other than my SO seeing me naked, guy or girl, close friend or friend or family or stranger.

That's what you have probably experience and what you believe. It's kinda sad that you feel that it's always men who extend more kindness than women.

Emphasize what? A couple of my close male friends aren't attached. What's the issue? We've known each other for years and have had various partners come and go during those years of friendship. I would definitely go out of my way to help them, and vice versa.

Again, you may have different experiences in life with people of the opposite gender. Not blaming anyone or saying that's wrong. Just saying that those kind of friendships do exist. Not sure why you are trying so hard to prove others wrong lol. Anyhow, not interested to discuss this further. Have a great weekend!  laugh.gif
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"A platonic relationship is a close bond between two people that is non-romantic and devoid of sexual intimacy. It's essentially a deep friendship characterized by emotional connection, shared interests, and mutual respect, without the presence of romantic or physical attraction."

I'm just exploring the definition, since there's no physical attraction. Seeing each other naked surely wouldn't be a problem, unless they are insecure about their body.

It's not sad, it's the reality. The sad part is when a man showing kindness thinking they'll get their feelings reciprocated.

So your SO is not bothered by you having a vacation alone with another single male close friend?

Give me an example of you going out of your way to help.

It does exist, but in the confine of a female's perspective which is not bound by reality.

Because there is no one for me to try hard so I gotta get hard...... I mean try hard. It's not weekend yet 😔









 

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