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RGRaj
post Jun 25 2025, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(hzmaz2017 @ Jun 25 2025, 03:08 PM)
My dear Raj,

To be exact, a Muslim convert's ability to revert to their original religion can face significant challenges due to both religious interpretations and socio-cultural factors.

It's important to note that there are varying interpretations among Islamic scholars regarding the punishment for apostasy.

Some argue that the punishment is reserved for the afterlife, not in this world, and that the Quran emphasizes freedom of religion.

Some scholars argue that the hadith concerning punishment for apostasy relate to treason or rebellion against the state, rather than a mere change in personal belief. 

Converting to Islam can sometimes lead to intense social and familial pressure if someone later decides to leave. Abandoning Islam can be seen as abandoning family and tradition, leading to ostracization, threats, and even violence in some cases.

In some Muslim-majority societies, where Islam is deeply intertwined with all aspects of life (law, culture, etc.), leaving the religion can be perceived as a major transgression with severe consequences.

There are laws prohibit conversion from Islam and may impose penalties like imprisonment, annulment of marriage, loss of inheritance, or even the death penalty.

While the Quran is cited as containing verses supporting religious freedom, the classical interpretation of apostasy in Islamic law and the resulting social and legal consequences can make it very difficult for a Muslim convert to revert to their previous religion.

The threat of punishment, including the death penalty in some regions, combined with social ostracization and legal repercussions, serve as powerful deterrents.
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And that is why it grew in the past. But now in the internet age, the believers are beginning to leave left & right after having known the truth.

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post Jun 25 2025, 03:18 PM

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Culture, Race, Religion = Scam

Banyak tuan tuan puan puan tan sri dato atuk pun ada minum, tak ada orang peduli kerana itu kehidupan dia. Jangan minum di depan semua orang, ok!

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SUShzmaz2017
post Jun 25 2025, 03:19 PM

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Conversion is a matter of personal belief, my dear.

Therefore, it is not the responsibility of Islamic authorities to conduct background checks on individuals before they convert to Islam.

The core requirement for converting to Islam is a sincere belief in the core tenets of the faith and the recitation of the Shahada (declaration of faith).

Islam emphasizes the internal state of a person's faith and the sincerity of their conversion.

To be exactly noted that there is no requirement within the Islamic law for an individual's background to be checked before converting. Conversion is primarily about personal belief and the declaration of faith.
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post Jun 25 2025, 03:19 PM

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huruf ke 3 butthurt again?
il0ve51
post Jun 25 2025, 03:23 PM

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actually just retard for keeping the religion if already divorce. imma eating pork still no one will ask for ic.
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post Jun 25 2025, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(il0ve51 @ Jun 25 2025, 03:23 PM)
actually just retard for keeping the religion if already divorce. imma eating pork still no one will ask for ic.
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Yea, but when you mampus your family is going to have lots of drama.
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post Jun 25 2025, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Jun 25 2025, 03:17 PM)
And that is why it grew in the past. But now in the internet age, the believers are beginning to leave left & right after having known the truth.
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My dear Raj,

The truth is why should one leave Islam after understanding Islam?

Leaving Islam is considered a grave offense against God, and those who do so and die in a state of disbelief risk eternal punishment in Hellfire.

The Quran indicates that if someone leaves Islam and dies in unbelief, their good deeds in this life and the hereafter become worthless. 

In historical contexts, apostasy was often viewed as a form of political secession or rebellion against the Muslim community or state, particularly when coupled with actions that undermined or threatened the Muslim community. Some scholars argue that the historical punishments attributed to apostasy were primarily aimed at those who engaged in treasonous behavior rather than simply changing their belief.

Furthermore, some see the punishment for apostasy as a measure to protect the integrity and stability of the Muslim community and state, especially in historical contexts where religious identity was closely intertwined with political and social order.

Leaving Islam could be seen as weakening the social fabric of Muslim society, which is built on the foundation of Islamic faith.





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post Jun 25 2025, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jun 25 2025, 10:09 AM)
So......3 times strike you out gameplay

Next time when you kena batang hidung sendiri, don't blame others but ownself coz you didn't make it 3 times 1st.
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what 3 times strike?
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post Jun 25 2025, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Jun 25 2025, 12:37 PM)
Ya wei, going by his logic then a person who was born into Islam should be allowed to leave. hmm.gif
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His posts are quite interesting. Sounds legit but lots of contradictions also
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post Jun 25 2025, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Jun 25 2025, 02:49 PM)
2) If the authorities did a proper background check before admitting somebody into the faith, they'd have less problems with apostacy later.
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No authority should control in or out of a religion.

Religion should be between one and one's beliefs.
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post Jun 25 2025, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(Ukeke @ Jun 25 2025, 08:28 AM)
Curious question, if u convert, after divorced can u convert back to previous religion?
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technically, yes.. but in reality, that is another story..
RGRaj
post Jun 25 2025, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(hzmaz2017 @ Jun 25 2025, 03:32 PM)
My dear Raj,

The truth is why should one leave Islam after understanding Islam?

Leaving Islam is considered a grave offense against God, and those who do so and die in a state of disbelief risk eternal punishment in Hellfire.

The Quran indicates that if someone leaves Islam and dies in unbelief, their good deeds in this life and the hereafter become worthless. 

In historical contexts, apostasy was often viewed as a form of political secession or rebellion against the Muslim community or state, particularly when coupled with actions that undermined or threatened the Muslim community. Some scholars argue that the historical punishments attributed to apostasy were primarily aimed at those who engaged in treasonous behavior rather than simply changing their belief.

Furthermore, some see the punishment for apostasy as a measure to protect the integrity and stability of the Muslim community and state, especially in historical contexts where religious identity was closely intertwined with political and social order.

Leaving Islam could be seen as weakening the social fabric of Muslim society, which is built on the foundation of Islamic faith.
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Oh how ironic. People are leaving after actually understanding their religion. And it is only getting more rampant in the internet age. Because it is getting extremely difficult to keep the taqiyya going on & the lies are getting exposed on an accelerated scale. 🙂



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post Jun 25 2025, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(Randomization @ Jun 24 2025, 04:36 PM)
Ukeke, don't pretend you don't know what is hotel california.
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what u mean ? also curious here bruce.gif
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Jun 25 2025, 11:17 AM)
If non women, they can remain single mother to save the future problem .
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She will have a problem with her child religion matter also.

More problem --> if the bastard husband come back and claim.

She seems sound like not a Malaysian.
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post Jun 25 2025, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(hzmaz2017 @ Jun 25 2025, 03:08 PM)
It's important to note that there are varying interpretations among Islamic scholars regarding the punishment for apostasy.

Some argue that the punishment is reserved for the afterlife, not in this world, and that the Quran emphasizes freedom of religion.

Some scholars argue that the hadith concerning punishment for apostasy relate to treason or rebellion against the state, rather than a mere change in personal belief. 

Converting to Islam can sometimes lead to intense social and familial pressure if someone later decides to leave. Abandoning Islam can be seen as abandoning family and tradition, leading to ostracization, threats, and even violence in some cases.

There are laws prohibit conversion from Islam and may impose penalties like imprisonment, annulment of marriage, loss of inheritance, or even the death penalty.
In summary, a religion of peace where punishments are based on "I feel" thumbup.gif
Khamzat Chimaev
post Jun 25 2025, 07:02 PM

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me everytime seeing this kinda tered biggrin.gif

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RGRaj
post Jun 25 2025, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(Khamzat Chimaev @ Jun 25 2025, 07:02 PM)
me everytime seeing this kinda tered  biggrin.gif

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Calling out compulsion in religion is butthurt? 🤪
The true butthurters are the ones denying pipul to apostasize. 🤣

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post Jun 25 2025, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Jun 25 2025, 05:23 PM)
Oh how ironic. People are leaving after actually understanding their religion. And it is only getting more rampant in the internet age. Because it is getting extremely difficult to keep the taqiyya going on & the lies are getting exposed on an accelerated scale. 🙂


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Raj, my dear

Muslims who understand the truth of Islam will never leave.

1. Islam's core principle of tawhid (the oneness of God) resonates with many who seek a direct and personal relationship with the divine, free from intermediaries or complex theological doctrines.
2. The simplicity and clarity of Islamic beliefs, particularly concerning God's attributes and human responsibility, appeal to those seeking a straightforward understanding of faith. 
3. Islam's emphasis on ethical conduct, compassion, and social responsibility attracts individuals seeking a moral compass and a framework for positive social impact.
4. The teachings on charity, justice, and helping the less fortunate resonate with those who value social justice and community well-being. 
5. The global Muslim community (ummah) provides a sense of belonging and shared identity, offering support and connection in a diverse world.
6. Local Muslim communities often offer welcoming environments and opportunities for social interaction, which can be particularly appealing to those seeking a sense of belonging. 
7. The intellectual depth of Islamic scholarship and the emphasis on seeking knowledge can be appealing to those who value learning and intellectual exploration.
8. Islam are multifaceted and often involve a combination of intellectual, spiritual, and social factors. 
9. Islam's emphasis on community, social justice, and personal growth. 
SUShzmaz2017
post Jun 25 2025, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(NoComment222 @ Jun 25 2025, 06:38 PM)
In summary, a religion of peace where punishments are based on "I feel"  thumbup.gif
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My dear,

In Islam, punishments are not based solely on "I feel." They come from sources like the Quran and Sunnah, which are the teachings and practices of Prophet Muhammad.

Islamic law, or Sharia, comes from the Quran (believed to be the word of God) and the Sunnah (the Prophet's example). These sources offer guidance on justice and other aspects of life, including punishments.

Islam emphasizes justice, requiring fairness in judgments and punishments.

Certain crimes (Hudud) have specific punishments in the Quran. The requirements for carrying out these punishments have historically been strict, focusing on prevention.

Qualified scholars (Ulama) interpret and apply these sources. Different schools of Islamic jurisprudence have different interpretations.

Islamic teachings encourage benevolence (ihsan) and forgiveness, balancing justice with compassion. It is acceptable to not punish a crime, even if the law allows it. 

Therefore, while feelings about justice are important in Islam, they do not solely determine punishments. Rather, Islamic law relies on scriptural guidance and the understanding of Islamic scholars, seeking justice and upholding the faith. 
SUShzmaz2017
post Jun 25 2025, 08:34 PM

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Raj, my dear

The word "Taqiyya" is derived from the Arabic root "waqa," meaning "to shield oneself". It essentially means taking precautions to safeguard oneself or others from harm. 

Taqiyya is typically employed when individuals or groups face threats, persecution, or danger due to their religious affiliation. 

Taqiyya is particularly significant in Shia Islam due to the historical persecution and political challenges faced by Shia Muslims, often from Sunni majorities. 

Taqiyya is not intended as a general license to lie or deceive. It is specifically a practice of self-preservation in the face of danger and is not universally applied in all situations. 

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