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Ceiling Fan Alpha 828/3B no longer working
Ceiling Fan Alpha 828/3B no longer working
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Jun 24 2025, 04:03 PM
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Jun 24 2025, 04:30 PM
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Jun 24 2025, 05:37 PM
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Jun 25 2025, 09:18 AM
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Same case with me before... do trial and error first by switching the board from similar fans in your living room... it might be a clip kinda thing then it will be easy... else you need to snip2 and attach... take a few picture of the board for your ref...
If that's the case then buy a new board online... else just replace with a manual regulator fan by kdk for 150... |
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Jun 25 2025, 09:27 AM
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I just bought the new Panasonic Boyu 4 blade fan (DC motor) for RM300. Will try to fix it on Friday. Not sure if I can manage or call somebody to do it
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Jun 25 2025, 09:33 AM
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It is up to you:
1) Buy new one any model you like. Own install free. Get others to install = $$ 2) Buy capacitor <RM10 and replace yourself free 3) Get the PCBA repaired outside probably RM60~100. 4) BUt PCBA online probably around RM60 and replace yourself fee. |
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Jun 25 2025, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 25 2025, 09:33 AM) It is up to you: My concern is, what guarantee replacing the PCB can get it running? And how long before it fails again? Also, I contacted Alpha CS, they said they no longer have the spare parts for this model. I checked Shopee and Lazada as well, didn't have. It is a year 2009 model.1) Buy new one any model you like. Own install free. Get others to install = $$ 2) Buy capacitor <RM10 and replace yourself free 3) Get the PCBA repaired outside probably RM60~100. 4) BUt PCBA online probably around RM60 and replace yourself fee. |
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Jun 25 2025, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jun 25 2025, 09:51 AM) My concern is, what guarantee replacing the PCB can get it running? And how long before it fails again? Also, I contacted Alpha CS, they said they no longer have the spare parts for this model. I checked Shopee and Lazada as well, didn't have. It is a year 2009 model. The capacitor on the board is the faulty part probably more than 90% of fan spin slowly or need to be assisted to start spinning. This is for motor that runs on AC. For the DC fan, it is different mechanism. Capacitor quality may play part on how long it will last but personally I think it does not really matter. Any capacitor will be just the same regardless brand based on my experience.For me, I'm 100% sure replacing the PCB will make the fan works. The PCB you are looking for is RF56L/5S-FT. I check this and in Shopee it is said to be the PCB for the 838/3B. I found this in Shoppe and also Lazada and price varies from RM50~60 roughly as I glanced through. Surprisingly the capacitor sold for RM30 |
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Jun 25 2025, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 25 2025, 10:22 AM) The capacitor on the board is the faulty part probably more than 90% of fan spin slowly or need to be assisted to start spinning. This is for motor that runs on AC. For the DC fan, it is different mechanism. Capacitor quality may play part on how long it will last but personally I think it does not really matter. Any capacitor will be just the same regardless brand based on my experience. Does it need a separate remote? Or can use an existing remote? Do I need to buy the capacitor separately, or is there a capacitor in the PCB?For me, I'm 100% sure replacing the PCB will make the fan works. The PCB you are looking for is RF56L/5S-FT. I check this and in Shopee it is said to be the PCB for the 838/3B. I found this in Shoppe and also Lazada and price varies from RM50~60 roughly as I glanced through. Surprisingly the capacitor sold for RM30Â Also, how do you know its the PCB faulty and not the capacitor or something else? This post has been edited by contestchris: Jun 25 2025, 11:45 AM |
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Jun 25 2025, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jun 25 2025, 11:29 AM) Does it need a separate remote? Or can use an existing remote? Do I need to buy the capacitor separately, or is there a capacitor in the PCB? The capacitor is on the board already. Buying just capacitor is just an option not to buy the whole board, but you need to have de-soldering and soldering skill. Errr.. provided that the capacitor is the faulty part. I've had a burnt component before that I bought a replacement PCB because the component was not in stock and need to wait very long for order.Also, how do you know its the PCB faulty and not the capacitor or something else? Remote you can use the same remote. |
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Jun 25 2025, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 25 2025, 12:28 PM) The capacitor is on the board already. Buying just capacitor is just an option not to buy the whole board, but you need to have de-soldering and soldering skill. Errr.. provided that the capacitor is the faulty part. I've had a burnt component before that I bought a replacement PCB because the component was not in stock and need to wait very long for order. I dont understand, doesn't the remote need to be new?Remote you can use the same remote. Also, it seems the board and capacitor is separate, based on this video. https://youtu.be/9QPhLQaTmqQ?si=b1dDh7XLOCVXhZ9l So I need to buy all 3? Appreciate your input man. Please note the Alpha 828/3B uses an older PCB, model RC55, which is obsolete. This post has been edited by contestchris: Jun 25 2025, 12:44 PM |
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Jun 25 2025, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jun 25 2025, 12:43 PM) I dont understand, doesn't the remote need to be new? Thank for the video. My Alpha fans are not using remote but my Panasonic does.Also, it seems the board and capacitor is separate, based on this video. https://youtu.be/9QPhLQaTmqQ?si=b1dDh7XLOCVXhZ9l So I need to buy all 3? Appreciate your input man. Please note the Alpha 828/3B uses an older PCB, model RC55, which is obsolete. In the video it was stated that when he went to get spare part from Alpha, the board is no longer produced. However, Alpha gave an alternative board. The board is of new design and that was the reason you need new remote control. Unlike the old board which has capacitor mounted on board, the new one has capacitor off the board. So, if you can find the same old PCB model online, then you do not need to replace the remote. |
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Jun 25 2025, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 25 2025, 04:05 PM) Thank for the video. My Alpha fans are not using remote but my Panasonic does. Yes, but the alternative board that Alpha gave him, is the same board you recommended me above. So just to confirm, I will need the PCB + Remote + Capacitor, and still run the risk of the fan not working due to other reasons, e.g. broken coil in the motor. Correct me if I am wrong.In the video it was stated that when he went to get spare part from Alpha, the board is no longer produced. However, Alpha gave an alternative board. The board is of new design and that was the reason you need new remote control. Unlike the old board which has capacitor mounted on board, the new one has capacitor off the board. So, if you can find the same old PCB model online, then you do not need to replace the remote. |
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Jun 25 2025, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jun 25 2025, 04:09 PM) Yes, but the alternative board that Alpha gave him, is the same board you recommended me above. So just to confirm, I will need the PCB + Remote + Capacitor, and still run the risk of the fan not working due to other reasons, e.g. broken coil in the motor. Correct me if I am wrong. Did I recommend any board?Coil in fan is hardly broken. Furthermore, you mentioned that with little push, the fan spin but slow. Normally slowly spin fan is just bad capacitor. Even if you cannot find exact capacitor value but slightly different, the fan will spin but the speed might change slightly too. |
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Jun 25 2025, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 25 2025, 04:17 PM) Did I recommend any board? Yes, you did.Coil in fan is hardly broken. Furthermore, you mentioned that with little push, the fan spin but slow. Normally slowly spin fan is just bad capacitor. Even if you cannot find exact capacitor value but slightly different, the fan will spin but the speed might change slightly too. ---------- For me, I'm 100% sure replacing the PCB will make the fan works. The PCB you are looking for is RF56L/5S-FT. I check this and in Shopee it is said to be the PCB for the 838/3B. I found this in Shoppe and also Lazada and price varies from RM50~60 roughly as I glanced through. Surprisingly the capacitor sold for RM30 laugh.gif . I think if you know soldering and want to replace the part yourself I think the capacitor is no more than RM10 in electronics shop |
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Jun 25 2025, 04:19 PM
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Oh I see what I suggest. It was because it stated as replacement for that model. I have no idea that is the new board though because never owned one
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Jun 25 2025, 04:35 PM
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I found this. It is said for old board for RC55
https://shopee.com.my/ALPHA-CEILING-FAN-ORI...78-138e61bf63af Check if this is correct |
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Jun 26 2025, 09:11 AM
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Jun 24 2025, 08:29 AM) easy peasey. How about spanner? Is it needed (to tighten the nuts)?follow safety rules ya off MCB breaker while u work use sturdy tangga prep tools electrical test pen screw drivers philips and cross wire connector just in case need Plier for the cotter pins? Any other tool? This is the installation manual: https://www.panasonic.com/content/dam/pim/m...01ZM_250310.pdf This post has been edited by contestchris: Jun 26 2025, 09:18 AM |
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Jun 26 2025, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jun 26 2025, 09:11 AM) How about spanner? Is it needed (to tighten the nuts)? Ya that too.Plier for the cotter pins? Any other tool? This is the installation manual: https://www.panasonic.com/content/dam/pim/m...01ZM_250310.pdf |
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Jun 26 2025, 06:42 PM
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![]() Guys I need help please. My old fan is removed completely from the ceiling. Took me well over an hour, the head is super heavy and I needed someone else to assist with holding the motor unit. Opening the housing also took quite an effort. Anyways I am glad to have done it. Now I have an issue, the wires on my ceiling not match the colour of the Panasonic Bayu. The Bayu wires are blue, green and brown. The ceiling wires are green, black and white. |
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