we same lvl. not yet apply.

After looking at my daily usage pattern, I've decided to apply see if new tariff can save money. My monthly bill before new tariff is around 140 ~ 180.

This post has been edited by ericong77: Aug 13 2025, 03:03 PM

Ok. I also not keen for now..

Is it worth to apply ToU for low usage 190-210kwh?

if your low usage is mostly during off-peak hours, why not

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Aug 13 2025, 05:47 PM

Smart! Later I try.

Mine's about the same, average 439kWh for last 9 mths. If 450kWh and 14% peak, this is what I get using mcchin's spreadsheet. If haven't calculated your own yet, just agak-agak the % peak.



About 12% saving. Will take 3 months to recover back the stamp duty.

This post has been edited by soonwai: Aug 13 2025, 08:05 PM

Nice. Thank you for sharing.

Bill out. Cheap cheap again this month. Transition between non-ToU to ToU so usage was split to a lower tier of non-ToU and max discount for ToU. But only 6 days for ToU. Probably better if can time your changeover somewhere in the middle.

Oops, need to add RM10 for stamp duty.

This post has been edited by soonwai: Aug 14 2025, 11:23 AM

All these change of T and NT is going to earn tnb a lot of money. 1 mil ppl doing that will just earn them 10mil out of thin air. Tnb should instead at the end of the month automatically apply the cheapest for everyone.

I think ToU should be better for most households. For 450kWh, you need to use 63% peak for both rates to be equal. Maybe that’s why TNB default to non-ToU since consumers will pay more.

my guess
TOU is put out to be seen like there's an option

TOU works for those country with tethering energy supply, so proper Peak hours are like during industrial / office work hours
where energy is needed for business purposes

while home use should be normal
and true off peak is like the midnights, where lesser demand like passed 12am till morning 6/7am

plus the rates along with eh times are not really deterring or forcing bad habit changes
it is more like an afterthought

In theory yes. But now people have know in depth a out their usage. Then change once. All these testing and switching is just plain money grab. People should start complain about the rm10 charges. It should be free to change.

hahaha, my taman group already complain kaw-kaw:
1. Why need stamp duty? (ask LHDN for exemption)
2. Why not straight change to ToU?


Already sampai criminal breach of trust. I no heart tell him that stamp duty goes to LHDN.

This post has been edited by soonwai: Aug 14 2025, 11:27 AM

Stamp duty is paid to LHDN. Tariff agreement between TNB and user is a binding contract.

Actually when change from old (Residential) to new tariff (Domestic General), this is also a new contract right? Shouldn't this also have an RM10 stamp duty?

Is it that TNB pays the stamp duty since they're the one changing the contract?

Likewise, for ToU, we pay since we want to change the contract?

Ref Stamp Act: https://phl.hasil.gov.my/pdf/pdfam/Stamp_Ac...at_01072014.pdf

I suck at legal documents. For Agreements or Contracts it says, the person to pay duty is "The person by whom the
instrument is first executed"

This post has been edited by soonwai: Aug 14 2025, 11:54 AM

They should not even have implemented such thing where u can switch. Just bill us the cheapest of the 2. I believe lhdn and tnb is making money out of us. Tnb want to increase price, lhdn also greedy and want to make money out of it. They both win and citizens lose.

Ya lor, why not straight change to ToU for everybody or at least everybody with a smart meter ?

whatever TnB or the government do nowadays confirm you have people complaining on both sides....

if auto switch to ToU, will have a group of people complaining why not give the option to opt out, what if bill increased due to more usage during peak hours etc

really cannot satisfy everyone nowadays. IMO giving the option to switch is still the safest choice, up to you to decide whether to switch

but I agree the whole process should have been free

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Aug 14 2025, 01:19 PM

Not even auto switch. At the end of the month, their system should calculate which is the cheapest and bill us the cheapest. Why even need us to monitor ourselves and switch ourselves? Doesn't make sense. Now everyone has to be an 'expert' in metering their electricity usage. Pretty dumb imo
In other words for those who don't bother to study their usage, TNB will earn more if somehow you are in the wrong ToU. Can't believe the government let them go ahead with this nonsense.