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TSColada
post Jun 18 2025, 01:03 PM, updated 6 months ago

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Our Condo is on a residential street in an upmarket area. Six months ago a car was parked on the road in front, near the entrance gate. It hasn't moved since then. A front wheel has been stolen, it is covered in dead leaves, the suspension is collapsing and it is covered in rust. Lots of 'warning' stickers have been plastered on the windscreen. It is obviously an abandoned car.

About a month ago another car appeared, parked right in front of this one. It too is going the same way, never moves, covered in dust and dirt, beginning to rust. Another abandoned car.

I have complained to our building management. Asked them to get them removed. They say 'it's not our fault - it's DBKL'. I've told them to call DBKL every day, keep making damn noise until they take action. But I doubt they'll bother, they are a useless lazy bunch always. They are low class people, and to them this disarray probably seems F I N E.....

IMHO the second car was dumped here because the owner saw the other one and realised - it's F I N E - nobody in that Condo gives a sh*t, so it's safe to dump here.
No doubt this is starting a trend. Probably more will appear in future.

There was an article on Paul Tan dot Org yesterday about the Federal Territory Dept being directed to talk with JPJ on how to deal with these wrecks being abandoned around the city. There's something seriously wrong with the law if the authorities are powerless to act.

Or is it just plain LAZINESS?



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post Jun 18 2025, 01:05 PM

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>>I've told them to call DBKL every day

Why not you.
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why dont you call or you too hi class to do such menial work laugh.gif
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post Jun 18 2025, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(ray123 @ Jun 18 2025, 01:05 PM)
>>I've told them to call DBKL every day

Why not you.
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There's an old saying - "Why buy a dog and bark yourself?".
The BM are PAID to do this.
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post Jun 18 2025, 01:10 PM

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I did make a report to MBPJ, the reply = no reply. They do not have enough space, lol...


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TSColada
post Jun 18 2025, 01:11 PM

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That's what I'd expect.
Lot's of handwringing and excuses.
No action - ever.
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post Jun 18 2025, 01:13 PM

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lodge complain directly to DBKL. Just login to adukl.dbkl.gov.my
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post Jun 18 2025, 01:17 PM

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post Jun 18 2025, 01:18 PM

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BM cannnot do nothing since it is not whithin the building compound. That road is a public road.

I would suggest the condo residents to lodge complain to DBKL.
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post Jun 18 2025, 01:19 PM

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How does your building management also close one eyes.

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post Jun 18 2025, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(GOPI56 @ Jun 18 2025, 01:18 PM)
BM cannnot do nothing since it is not whithin the building compound. That road is a public road.

I would suggest the condo residents to lodge complain to DBKL.
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Why would a sole resident complaint carry more weight than the BUILDING MANAGEMENT COMPANY who represent ALL residents?

Your logic is screwed up, but typical of Malaysians.

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Wouldn't happen in Singapore.

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post Jun 18 2025, 01:25 PM

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local govt should start a RFP, for contractors to pay govt to work as the authorized agent to act on abandoned cars
1. they follow current policy, ie. 30-90days notice on the abandoned vehicle, they can tow it away afterwards
2. enact new policy, like after towing, must still keep it for 120days, in case the owner comeback
3. after end of all periods above, the contractors authorized to dispose the vehicle with JPJ, then free to act anything on it
4. contract pay a fixed fee monthly, or on profit sharing scheme with local govt


should have some red tapes to solve, like legality of disposing abandoned vehicle
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post Jun 18 2025, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(Colada @ Jun 18 2025, 01:20 PM)
Why would a sole resident complaint carry more weight than the BUILDING MANAGEMENT COMPANY who represent ALL residents?

Your logic is screwed up, but typical of Malaysians.

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Wouldn't happen in Singapore.
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As per my knowledge, Building Management Company only deals with issues within the condo compound.

Since you mentioned the cars are being left near the condo entrance, so it is not within condo compound.

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post Jun 18 2025, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(galkelly @ Jun 18 2025, 01:19 PM)
How does your building management also close one eyes.
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post Jun 18 2025, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(jmas @ Jun 18 2025, 01:25 PM)
local govt should start a RFP, for contractors to pay govt to work as the authorized agent to act on abandoned cars
1. they follow current policy, ie. 30-90days notice on the abandoned vehicle, they can tow it away afterwards
2. enact new policy, like after towing, must still keep it for 120days, in case the owner comeback
3. after end of all periods above, the contractors authorized to dispose the vehicle with JPJ, then free to act anything on it
4. contract pay a fixed fee monthly, or on profit sharing scheme with local govt
should have some red tapes to solve, like legality of disposing abandoned vehicle
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Good idea.
But they're probably busy fighting over who gets the contract.

Meanwhile.....user posted image

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post Jun 18 2025, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(GOPI56 @ Jun 18 2025, 01:25 PM)
As per my knowledge, Building Management Company only deals with issues within the condo compound.

Since you mentioned the cars are being left near the condo entrance, so it is not within condo compound.
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So that's your answer eh?
Nothing to do laaaah....
Nemind....

BS.

What happens in well run cities around the world is like this;

1. The BM reports it to the City.

2. The City sends a tow truck.

THE END

See how it works? ....it's not too difficult for you to understand this, is it?

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post Jun 18 2025, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(Colada @ Jun 18 2025, 01:30 PM)
So that's your answer eh?
Nothing to do laaaah....
Nemind....

BS.

What happens in well run cities around the world is like this;

1. The BM reports it to the City.

2. The City sends a tow truck.

THE END

See how now....it's not too difficult for you to understand this, is it?
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Thank you. I have nothing else to say.


All the best to you. Welcome to Malaysia. Malaysia works differently.

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post Jun 18 2025, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(Colada @ Jun 18 2025, 01:30 PM)
So that's your answer eh?
Nothing to do laaaah....
Nemind....

BS.

What happens in well run cities around the world is like this;

1. The BM reports it to the City.

2. The City sends a tow truck.

THE END

See how it works? ....it's not too difficult for you to understand this, is it?
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Perhaps you should look into your management contract and scrutinize the clauses on responsibility and such, instead of making ASSumptions.
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post Jun 18 2025, 01:51 PM

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jual besi buruk 1k can get

my condo mgmt put notice on the car to remove 1 mth.. no action sell to besi buruk
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QUOTE(tatabun @ Jun 18 2025, 01:51 PM)
jual besi buruk 1k can get

my condo mgmt put notice on the car to remove 1 mth.. no action sell to besi buruk
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In your case, the car was inside the condo grounds?
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QUOTE(tatabun @ Jun 18 2025, 01:51 PM)
jual besi buruk 1k can get

my condo mgmt put notice on the car to remove 1 mth.. no action sell to besi buruk
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I would really like to know whether it is really doable and legal.

In my case, I'm under MBSA jurisdiction. They're quite efficient to clear any car dumped by the roadside once they got a report.

But the current problem is for people dumping car/motorcycle inside the apartment compound. We already put out notices, and took all motorcycle out from the parking as it occupies slot for other people. We checked with MBSA and COB (which manages the rules for all stratified property) and there is no way to dispose of the vehicles. It would be illegal as those vehicles are still under somebody's name, and there is no rule that allows management to dispose it.

So when I read the news that the government wants to allow disposal of abandoned vehicles, I was like, "Finally!".
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These car dumping usually report lost and claim insurance is it?
Always saw certain areas/carpark full of these old dumped cars
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I have complained to our building management. Asked them to get them removed. They say 'it's not our fault - it's DBKL'. I've told them to call DBKL every day, keep making damn noise until they take action. But I doubt they'll bother, they are a useless lazy bunch always. They are low class people, and to them this disarray probably seems F I N E.....

But can't lodge own complain.

B40 mentality is B40 mentality.
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QUOTE(suri @ Jun 18 2025, 03:23 PM)
I would really like to know whether it is really doable and legal.

In my case, I'm under MBSA jurisdiction. They're quite efficient to clear any car dumped by the roadside once they got a report.

But the current problem is for people dumping car/motorcycle inside the apartment compound. We already put out notices, and took all motorcycle out from the parking as it occupies slot for other people. We checked with MBSA and COB (which manages the rules for all stratified property) and there is no way to dispose of the vehicles. It would be illegal as those vehicles are still under somebody's name, and there is no rule that allows management to dispose it.

So when I read the news that the government wants to allow disposal of abandoned vehicles, I was like, "Finally!".
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tru e-dereg?

for my side is in inside the condo compound too

JMB put up 30 days notice to remove vehicle

JMB file formal complaint to dewan bandaraya citing aedes breeding ground due to 5 dengue cases inside the condo

now waiting authority reply

what i know the plan is after verbal discussion with authority

> dewan bandaraya issue notice > after notice tow > apply court order > sell for scrap > jmb have to bear the towing compound costs


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QUOTE(Colada @ Jun 18 2025, 01:20 PM)
Why would a sole resident complaint carry more weight than the BUILDING MANAGEMENT COMPANY who represent ALL residents?

Your logic is screwed up, but typical of Malaysians.

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Wouldn't happen in Singapore.
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Just unfortunate u are living in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jun 18 2025, 03:05 PM)
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I have complained to our building management. Asked them to get them removed. They say 'it's not our fault - it's DBKL'. I've told them to call DBKL every day, keep making damn noise until they take action. But I doubt they'll bother, they are a useless lazy bunch always. They are low class people, and to them this disarray probably seems F I N E.....

But can't lodge own complain.

B40 mentality is B40 mentality.
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ts high keras people... compare us to singapore..

wonder why still here...
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Ok I'll share a story.

I was wanting to scrap my track car with a blown engine. Ok first check smmysikap because they said can do online deregistration.

Cannot do. Website say need to do fingerprint. Ok go JPJ.

1st day at JPJ.. queue up.. then said need fill form and photocopy IC. Ok..done. go back counter, then said officer in charge on leave cannot process, need to go another JPJ branch (I'm at PJ JPJ)..or wait till after officer come back.

2nd day go JPJ , officer there, good, I think ok can do today. Stupid officer say have to do police report first. WTF. Why don't tell me the first time. I ask why cannot do online, he said memang cannot do online because owner need to be present. I said, I log in mysikap also virtually I'm present also mah. Still said cannot. No help at all. Ask me to do police report then go back again.

Wasted 2 days at JPJ. Still not managed to get the car deregistered and scrapped yet.

What bollocks. And you wonder why there are so many junk cars littering the streets.

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Do it at HQ jpj, Padang Jawa for selangor, Wangsa maju for kl, get form from counter, photocopy ic and grant,submit over the counter, wait 2 weeks,collect the document, find a shop for offer, they will come and collect the car, prepare photocopy ic and the dereg document, this how I done mine
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To report an abandoned vehicle to DBKL, you can use their WhatsApp number: 019-212 0031. You can also contact the DBKL Complaints Hotline at 1800 88 3255 or the DBKL Enforcement Department Operations Room at 03-4024 4424 (24-hours).
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jun 18 2025, 08:20 PM)
Still not managed to get the car deregistered and scrapped yet.

What bollocks. And you wonder why there are so many junk cars littering the streets.
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If you really keen to dispose your car - look for carmedic, I scrapped my kancil through that website, turbo engine blown off not worth repairing+upkeep the vehicle, they are also part of Selangor government and JPJ collab to dispose & destroy abandoned/written-off car

Don't have to travel here and there, just take pictures and submit details. Someone authorized will visit you and ask you to sign, once you sign the car gonna get towed away and they will bank in you the money, and then you will get Certificate of Destruction. But don't expect too much money though if you chose this route just to write off your vehicle.

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QUOTE(Colada @ Jun 18 2025, 02:30 PM)
So that's your answer eh?
Nothing to do laaaah....
Nemind....

BS.

What happens in well run cities around the world is like this;

1. The BM reports it to the City.

2. The City sends a tow truck.

THE END

See how it works? ....it's not too difficult for you to understand this, is it?
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Not every Malaysians want to go beyond their job scope - telling BM to help you to report to DBKL about the abandoned car in front of your apartment. You can just file one report to DBKL by yourself first, but then again it's still under DBKL jurisdiction. whether DBKL really do their job or not you can bug them at social media.
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QUOTE(Colada @ Jun 18 2025, 01:11 PM)
That's what I'd expect.
Lot's of handwringing and excuses.
No action - ever.
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I've lodge an online complaint to my local council (mpaj) few years back regarding one abondoned car near my house street.

Guess what, they do take action to call me about it and tow it away. Why so hard to just file a complaint?
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QUOTE(WongTheThief @ Jun 18 2025, 11:22 PM)
Not every Malaysians want to go beyond their job scope - telling BM to help you to report to DBKL about the abandoned car in front of your apartment. You can just file one report to DBKL by yourself first, but then again it's still under DBKL jurisdiction. whether DBKL really do their job or not you can bug them at social media.
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It's not in front of MY apartment. In fact it's nowhere near MY apartment.
It's in front of a CONDOMINIUM! There are HUNDREDS of apartments.
But unlike most of you lowlifes - I CARE about the environment and the APPEARANCE of my neighbourhood.
If you don't give a damn about these things you get what we see already in the country - crap environments, litter, decay and dirt.

And before you say it again - I REPEAT - I report it to the PAID BM, who has the RESPONSIBILITY to care for the Condo, and represents it's hundreds of residents, who PAY him to do that.

Malaysia will never progress because too many Malaysians just don't give a damn. Everything is excuses and buck passing. Even when paid to do a job - find a way to blame somebody else and AVOID WORK.

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Outside condo compound is local council jurisdiction, right?
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QUOTE(ycs @ Jun 18 2025, 01:08 PM)
why dont you call or you too hi class to do such menial work laugh.gif
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Calling DBKL is considered peasant work for this guy.
The way he talk also can see lah, "i live in upscale area, blah blah blah" ; "You all lowlifes".

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QUOTE(Colada @ Jun 19 2025, 03:21 PM)
It's not in front of MY apartment. In fact it's nowhere near MY apartment.
It's in front of a CONDOMINIUM! There are HUNDREDS of apartments.
But unlike most of you lowlifes - I CARE about the environment and the APPEARANCE of my neighbourhood.
If you don't give a damn about these things you get what we see already in the country - crap environments, litter, decay and dirt.

And before you say it again - I REPEAT - I report it to the PAID BM, who has the RESPONSIBILITY to care for the Condo, and represents it's hundreds of residents, who PAY him to do that.

Malaysia will never progress because too many Malaysians just don't give a damn. Everything is excuses and buck passing. Even when paid to do a job - find a way to blame somebody else and AVOID WORK.
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Dei u have so much time to write here.. Just write to dbkl la sohaii

https://adukl.dbkl.gov.my/
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QUOTE(adamhzm90 @ Jun 19 2025, 04:17 PM)
Dei u have so much time to write here.. Just write to dbkl la sohaii

https://adukl.dbkl.gov.my/
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QUOTE(Colada @ Jun 18 2025, 01:03 PM)
Our Condo is on a residential street in an upmarket area. Six months ago a car was parked on the road in front, near the entrance gate. It hasn't moved since then. A front wheel has been stolen, it is covered in dead leaves, the suspension is collapsing and it is covered in rust. Lots of 'warning' stickers have been plastered on the windscreen. It is obviously an abandoned car.

About a month ago another car appeared, parked right in front of this one. It too is going the same way, never moves, covered in dust and dirt, beginning to rust.  Another abandoned car.

I have complained to our building management. Asked them to get them removed. They say 'it's not our fault - it's DBKL'. I've told them to call DBKL every day, keep making damn noise until they take action. But I doubt they'll bother, they are a useless lazy bunch always. They are low class people, and to them this disarray probably seems F I N E.....

IMHO the second car was dumped here because the owner saw the other one and realised - it's F I N E - nobody in that Condo gives a sh*t, so it's safe to dump here.
No doubt this is starting a trend. Probably more will appear in future. 

There was an article on Paul Tan dot Org yesterday about the Federal Territory Dept being directed to talk with JPJ on how to deal with these wrecks being abandoned around the city. There's something seriously wrong with the law if the authorities are powerless to act.

Or is it just plain LAZINESS?
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Bro , try this by yourself.

https://adukl.dbkl.gov.my/

Take picture.
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QUOTE(gokundrz @ Jun 18 2025, 07:57 PM)
Do it at HQ jpj, Padang Jawa for selangor, Wangsa maju for kl, get form from counter, photocopy ic and grant,submit over the counter, wait 2 weeks,collect the document, find a shop for offer, they will come and collect the car, prepare photocopy ic and the dereg document, this how I done mine
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Can it be done for vehicle not belonged to u?
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QUOTE(gokundrz @ Jun 18 2025, 07:57 PM)
Do it at HQ jpj, Padang Jawa for selangor, Wangsa maju for kl, get form from counter, photocopy ic and grant,submit over the counter, wait 2 weeks,collect the document, find a shop for offer, they will come and collect the car, prepare photocopy ic and the dereg document, this how I done mine
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jun 18 2025, 07:20 PM)
Ok I'll share a story.

I was wanting to scrap my track car with a blown engine. Ok first check smmysikap because they said can do online deregistration.

Cannot do. Website say need to do fingerprint. Ok go JPJ.

1st day at JPJ.. queue up.. then said need fill form and photocopy IC. Ok..done. go back counter, then said officer in charge on leave cannot process, need to go another JPJ branch (I'm at PJ JPJ)..or wait till after officer come back.

2nd day go JPJ , officer there, good, I think ok can do today. Stupid officer say have to do police report first. WTF. Why don't tell me the first time. I ask why cannot do online, he said memang cannot do online because owner need to be present. I said, I log in mysikap also virtually I'm present also mah. Still said cannot. No help at all. Ask me to do police report then go back again.

Wasted 2 days at JPJ. Still not managed to get the car deregistered and scrapped yet.

What bollocks. And you wonder why there are so many junk cars littering the streets.
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Bro, differnt branch different treatment, Malaysia public officer really shameful to the max la.


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QUOTE(Colada @ Jun 18 2025, 01:03 PM)
There's something seriously wrong with the law if the authorities are powerless to act.

Or is it just plain LAZINESS?
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they operate in a very peculiar way based from observations
if it's of something that confirms good returns whichever way (confirm good running car, owner will want it back) - SAPU YESTERDAY addy!

if it means nothing (dead car, confirm owner tinggal) and just plain more work to do
sorry to say......sendiri paham la ya
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QUOTE(jmas @ Jun 18 2025, 01:25 PM)
local govt should start a RFP, for contractors to pay govt to work as the authorized agent to act on abandoned cars
1. they follow current policy, ie. 30-90days notice on the abandoned vehicle, they can tow it away afterwards
2. enact new policy, like after towing, must still keep it for 120days, in case the owner comeback
3. after end of all periods above, the contractors authorized to dispose the vehicle with JPJ, then free to act anything on it
4. contract pay a fixed fee monthly, or on profit sharing scheme with local govt
should have some red tapes to solve, like legality of disposing abandoned vehicle
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last time my house estate also got such problem now less.

yes they should summon teh owner. how is this difference than littering...

really hate these people
suri
post Jun 20 2025, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(tatabun @ Jun 18 2025, 03:19 PM)
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tru e-dereg?

for my side is in inside the condo compound too

JMB put up 30 days notice to remove vehicle

JMB file formal complaint to dewan bandaraya citing aedes breeding ground due to 5 dengue cases inside the condo

now waiting authority reply

what i know the plan is after verbal discussion  with authority

> dewan bandaraya issue notice > after notice tow > apply court order > sell for scrap > jmb have to bear the towing compound costs
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e-Dereg is for owner to dispose the vehicle. Now we have quite a few motorcycles without number plates and rims, some we can trace back via number plate and send notice, some we cannot trace back. In this case we already checked with MBSA and COB, seems there's no way to dispose it properly. We also think of just dumping the vehicles outside the apartment compound, and then called MBSA, but this might be traced back to us. dry.gif

The aedes breeding ground? Good idea. We will try using this angle as well.
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post Jun 20 2025, 10:27 AM

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U go and make report regarding kenderaan terbiar la.
My area i reported a few. Blocking parking space of legitimate needs.
All those i reported kena tampal red notice d. See when they kena tow.

 

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