Ayam only own 2. How many ploperty you own?
34yo own 3 property, ayam so envious
34yo own 3 property, ayam so envious
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Jun 17 2025, 10:38 PM, updated 7 months ago
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Ayam only own 2. How many ploperty you own? |
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Jun 17 2025, 10:38 PM
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By "owning" do you mean full paid off 3 properties?
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Jun 17 2025, 10:39 PM
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41yo
Both my old man and the bank own me. |
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Jun 17 2025, 10:40 PM
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Why envious?
You can do it too, then declare bankrupt. |
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Jun 17 2025, 10:43 PM
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popeti own me instead
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Jun 17 2025, 10:50 PM
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u can too just buy a dog house, a toilet and build datuk kong shrine SYAMiLLiON, MishimaZ, and 1 other liked this post
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Jun 17 2025, 10:53 PM
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myself one loan also cuak nak mampus, this guy very big ball 3 properti
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Jun 17 2025, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Jun 17 2025, 11:38 PM) Lol most of his sheep follower all bleeding money kaw2 😅🤣🤣2 studio unit monthly instalment rm7k…. Studio unit 400+ sqft buy price rm500k+… X 2 Gila this sohai really dig his own grave…. Tunggu mampus saja yini machem This post has been edited by max_cavalera: Jun 17 2025, 10:59 PM |
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Jun 17 2025, 10:57 PM
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Jun 17 2025, 10:59 PM
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unless you have paid up in full, you don't own the properties. The bank does.
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Jun 17 2025, 11:02 PM
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Search again, there is massive accumulated debt that causes him cannot sell 2 house.
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Jun 17 2025, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Jun 17 2025, 10:38 PM) Why jelly? The guy is fucked upI tldw for kturds here: - the guy own 3 property, 1 landed for own stay, 2 studio units for investment/rent/airbnb - studio unit size <500 sqf purchase price 570k. So I estimate monthly around 2.7k - 2.8k ish - 1 unit rented out at 1.5k per month - another 1 unit under property management company do airbnb, income around 2.1k per month Both of his investment is fucked up and bleeding money |
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you mean 34yo owning 3 debt? max_cavalera liked this post
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Jun 17 2025, 11:03 PM
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why retards in /k like to keep sharing this sei sohai
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Jun 17 2025, 11:12 PM
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daddykasi?
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Jun 17 2025, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 17 2025, 10:57 PM) Lol most of his sheep follower all bleeding money kaw2 😅🤣🤣 He wont mampus. His side bisnes is reno. Same style as the other one.2 studio unit monthly instalment rm7k…. Studio unit 400+ sqft buy price rm500k+… X 2 Gila this sohai really dig his own grave…. Tunggu mampus saja yini machem Pull u in to buy..then u use his reno co for reno. Commision + reno income + consultant money + utube. Die apa? |
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Jun 17 2025, 11:35 PM
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iherng mampus? lol, all the flippers will mampus first before he mampus lol
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Jun 17 2025, 11:36 PM
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all under loans and losing money one what is there to envy..... learn from another Guru A from seremban.... do compound loan then u can buy few properties... wait 1 cycle will be 100% return... 2 -3 cycles u will become multi-millionaire... refinance that 3 properties then hentam more properties.....property in KV sure can make money one especially u buy from developer..LOLOL
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Jun 17 2025, 11:42 PM
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If want to earn good money from Airbnb
1. Don’t get property management company to manage - they’ll take 20-30% fee 2. Find good location property - target expat / foreign tourist. |
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Jun 17 2025, 11:53 PM
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cringe. in this country either you play squid game with siblings to be your parents favorite and they leave the house to you or you go sg au usa uk germany. there is no way to win air balang tiktok salesgirl, returning sg pr's and meow in property game This post has been edited by GHBZDK: Jun 18 2025, 12:07 AM HolyValkyrie and bill11 liked this post
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Jun 18 2025, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE(party @ Jun 17 2025, 11:14 PM) He wont mampus. His side bisnes is reno. Same style as the other one. Maybe that's his end game.Pull u in to buy..then u use his reno co for reno. Commision + reno income + consultant money + utube. Die apa? Tell ppl buy property, influence as many as possible. Property owner sure need reno, anyhow can pump increase his reno business demand. Time to time get these cool story, put on YouTube. Give his usual '' caring''/ "encouragement". HolyValkyrie, MegaCanonF, and 1 other liked this post
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Jun 18 2025, 12:50 AM
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Died with massive debt. max_cavalera liked this post
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Jun 18 2025, 12:51 AM
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LOL and yet in another thread uproar about buying EV.
Buying EV that cheaper to run, very less maintenance and used for daily is much better than buying property that is BLEEDING you dry every month for nothing. you only feeding rich developer and bank profit |
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Jun 18 2025, 01:08 AM
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Meh. Me 7 already owned multiple hotels for rent
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Jun 18 2025, 06:21 AM
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Jun 18 2025, 06:58 AM
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Hmm I’m a bit sceptical with this guy
Honestly, if you’ve just bought a home recently (last year / few years ago) and even if your DSR can pass. The banks will still consider you as an aggressive borrower and will still be hesitant to give you a second home loan. So his advice or as he claim that he can buy 2 or 3 properties in a short span of time is a bit hard to believe for me. Unless he knows how to utilise those gray areas la |
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Jun 18 2025, 06:59 AM
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Jun 18 2025, 07:33 AM
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QUOTE(6996 @ Jun 18 2025, 06:58 AM) Hmm I’m a bit sceptical with this guy I know right? I see them keep saying use 1st house refinance second house and so on... It seems kind of odd that banks allow to do this up to 3 or 4 timesHonestly, if you’ve just bought a home recently (last year / few years ago) and even if your DSR can pass. The banks will still consider you as an aggressive borrower and will still be hesitant to give you a second home loan. So his advice or as he claim that he can buy 2 or 3 properties in a short span of time is a bit hard to believe for me. Unless he knows how to utilise those gray areas la |
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Jun 18 2025, 07:34 AM
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QUOTE(potatolala @ Jun 18 2025, 06:59 AM) But the moment you can’t repay the loan, the Bank will legally fk you up. So it is not exactly yours. The fact that the bank even approve your loan means that they think that u can pay the loan.It means the bank has already paid for u which means you are the owner of the house So make sure u dont FK up because they will FK u |
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Jun 18 2025, 07:36 AM
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QUOTE(6996 @ Jun 18 2025, 06:58 AM) Hmm I’m a bit sceptical with this guy If u can prove you have high income , the bank will be very happy to loan u more. Honestly, if you’ve just bought a home recently (last year / few years ago) and even if your DSR can pass. The banks will still consider you as an aggressive borrower and will still be hesitant to give you a second home loan. So his advice or as he claim that he can buy 2 or 3 properties in a short span of time is a bit hard to believe for me. Unless he knows how to utilise those gray areas la Even better if you can prove u have multiple streams of income. Banks love ppl with multiple streams of income |
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Jun 18 2025, 07:51 AM
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QUOTE(knwong @ Jun 17 2025, 11:42 PM) If want to earn good money from Airbnb 2 of my prop doing airbnb and managed by mgmt company. Yes they take 25% but i still make more than if i were to rent it out on a monthly basis. 1. Don’t get property management company to manage - they’ll take 20-30% fee 2. Find good location property - target expat / foreign tourist. Also less headache dealing with tenants. They take care of everything. If u are working, very hard to manage airbnb on ur own |
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buy brand new as investment usually will lose money since hard to predict if the building unit will sell well like 2-3 years once completed or will it complete or not.
kinda bodoh to buy 2 at the same project, the risk double.... buy 2 at the same area also I wont risk cukuk cover the loan, no need cover maintenance good enough as capital gain should be good when you nab good property |
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QUOTE(6996 @ Jun 18 2025, 06:58 AM) Hmm I’m a bit sceptical with this guy bank suka if your income is high enough and you work at the same company for more then 3 years.....Honestly, if you’ve just bought a home recently (last year / few years ago) and even if your DSR can pass. The banks will still consider you as an aggressive borrower and will still be hesitant to give you a second home loan. So his advice or as he claim that he can buy 2 or 3 properties in a short span of time is a bit hard to believe for me. Unless he knows how to utilise those gray areas la if your main property already paid off more then 40%, you put in 20% downpayment, they lagi suka. if your property is manage by agent, 3~4 loans also can approve if all property incoming generating |
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Jun 18 2025, 08:12 AM
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1 fully paid property... Few mil in epf.. Plus debt free paling best
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Jun 18 2025, 08:22 AM
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Envy the owner got more than 1 housing loan? Unless the owner rich as fuck, got ten or hundreds of millions in bank account.
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Jun 18 2025, 08:25 AM
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jun 18 2025, 07:51 AM) 2 of my prop doing airbnb and managed by mgmt company. Yes they take 25% but i still make more than if i were to rent it out on a monthly basis. Good for you. Did you take a look at your apartment condition?Also less headache dealing with tenants. They take care of everything. If u are working, very hard to manage airbnb on ur own What I found is that if there’s tenant complaint the property management will handle it but they won’t repair or maintain it to the proper condition. I been to few and I saw it’s in quite poor state. Ceiling moldy, leaking faucet, power trip…still livable but will get poor reviews |
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Jun 18 2025, 08:59 AM
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"own"
you mean renting from bank |
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Jun 18 2025, 09:00 AM
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the only way u can finish paying any house loan is when u have bought a house before 2010. after that most house price in kl/selangor like double up already. JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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Jun 18 2025, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 17 2025, 10:53 PM) My landlady (and her hubby) got at least 4 other properties other than the one they staying. She summo rant to me that she couldn’t get anymore loan coz too many property under their names. I consider that as lowkey brag lol |
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Jun 18 2025, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 17 2025, 10:57 PM) Lol most of his sheep follower all bleeding money kaw2 😅🤣🤣 In this current economy, you need to save more money in the event you are fired, laid off , or you aren't getting any raises/bonuses.2 studio unit monthly instalment rm7k…. Studio unit 400+ sqft buy price rm500k+… X 2 Gila this sohai really dig his own grave…. Tunggu mampus saja yini machem |
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Jun 18 2025, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE(knwong @ Jun 18 2025, 08:25 AM) Good for you. Did you take a look at your apartment condition? If there is any maintenance issue, they will recommend to me what needs to be repaired and will arrange the repairmen to come once i agree on the price. No headache. They will then deduct from my rental incomeWhat I found is that if there’s tenant complaint the property management will handle it but they won’t repair or maintain it to the proper condition. I been to few and I saw it’s in quite poor state. Ceiling moldy, leaking faucet, power trip…still livable but will get poor reviews But then if the damage was caused by the tenant, they will charge the tenant. So its definitely worth it to pay them because if i were to manage it myself, u will get headache everyday and need to go to the unit everyday as well. For me i am still making more even after paying their fees than if i rent it out on a monthly basis, so no brainer for me This post has been edited by sexysarah1992: Jun 18 2025, 09:06 AM |
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QUOTE(kons @ Jun 18 2025, 09:04 AM) the only way u can finish paying any house loan is when u have bought a house before 2010. by 2010 u still can get decent house at sane priceafter that most house price in kl/selangor like double up already. thanks to our dear Gomen who keep closed one eye to bank practice of giving cheap credits, now and the next gen will suffer more |
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jun 18 2025, 09:05 AM) If there is any maintenance issue, they will recommend to me what needs to be repaired and will arrange the repairmen to come once i agree on the price. No headache. They will then deduct from my rental income since when you got brain?But then if the damage was caused by the tenant, they will charge the tenant. So its definitely worth it to pay them because if i were to manage it myself, u will get headache everyday and need to go to the unit everyday as well. For me i am still making more even after paying their fees than if i rent it out on a monthly basis, so no brainer for me keep making cool stories consider got brain meh? party liked this post
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jun 18 2025, 09:05 AM) If there is any maintenance issue, they will recommend to me what needs to be repaired and will arrange the repairmen to come once i agree on the price. No headache. They will then deduct from my rental income So did you get to view your apartment at all?But then if the damage was caused by the tenant, they will charge the tenant. So its definitely worth it to pay them because if i were to manage it myself, u will get headache everyday and need to go to the unit everyday as well. For me i am still making more even after paying their fees than if i rent it out on a monthly basis, so no brainer for me |
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Jun 18 2025, 09:14 AM
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TS envy people owing bank a million dollar debt?
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Jun 18 2025, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(kons @ Jun 18 2025, 09:04 AM) the only way u can finish paying any house loan is when u have bought a house before 2010. Popety gulu: "House price can 2X in 10 years and 3X in 20 years macam the 90s"after that most house price in kl/selangor like double up already. Meanwhile pipit's starting salary hardly grow over 20% over past 10 year. |
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jun 18 2025, 09:05 AM) If there is any maintenance issue, they will recommend to me what needs to be repaired and will arrange the repairmen to come once i agree on the price. No headache. They will then deduct from my rental income Sounds fair the cut they take given all the work they done.But then if the damage was caused by the tenant, they will charge the tenant. So its definitely worth it to pay them because if i were to manage it myself, u will get headache everyday and need to go to the unit everyday as well. For me i am still making more even after paying their fees than if i rent it out on a monthly basis, so no brainer for me Your unit is at a very tourist place? |
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bank own me
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QUOTE(knwong @ Jun 18 2025, 09:10 AM) Of course can view but need arrange with them make sure nobody staying QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jun 18 2025, 09:25 AM) Yup very fair. Yes at KL City Centre |
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 18 2025, 09:05 AM) In this current economy, you need to save more money in the event you are fired, laid off , or you aren't getting any raises/bonuses. Absolutely agree to this. Want buy property, just target those Rumah Wilayah or RSKU first. Its okay to be shameless and tumpang parents houses.Then daily apply jobs overseas or international companies that could pay you in their currency to get better wages. If got a bit money, make sure kap fun with trusted ppl to open up kopitiam and make sure it has good food and your money will roll in as Chinese culture always raise prices every mid year. This post has been edited by MishimaZ: Jun 18 2025, 09:35 AM JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 18 2025, 09:06 AM) by 2010 u still can get decent house at sane price DIBs was onethanks to our dear Gomen who keep closed one eye to bank practice of giving cheap credits, now and the next gen will suffer more It started out with good intentions but developers started to game it by increasing price. Flipperd also started to appear more then Lucky govt back then put it to a stop JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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pro tip: sunreit / igbreit > other condos (except desa park city)
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jun 18 2025, 09:25 AM) Actually one can calculate how much they earn and you can justify whether is it worth it...Say occupancy is 70% minimum and they rent out RM350/day so that'll net you 21 days x RM350 = RM7,350 Property manager take 25% = RM1,837.50 If you think your time is worth RM1,837.50 by outsourcing it out then engage them. Otherwise if manage yourself that's how much you earn |
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QUOTE(knwong @ Jun 18 2025, 10:19 AM) Actually one can calculate how much they earn and you can justify whether is it worth it... I am assuming most people who do airbnb investment have full time job, which makes it impossible to self manage.Say occupancy is 70% minimum and they rent out RM350/day so that'll net you 21 days x RM350 = RM7,350 Property manager take 25% = RM1,837.50 If you think your time is worth RM1,837.50 by outsourcing it out then engage them. Otherwise if manage yourself that's how much you earn |
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just do compressed loan what is so hard
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My fren 3 condo 40yo , bought 1 b4 2010 around rm300k now untung but for own stay . 2 unit for investment bought after 2010 around rm700k upcar , both market price around RM500k only This post has been edited by prdkancil: Jun 18 2025, 10:47 AM thxxht liked this post
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jun 18 2025, 10:35 AM) I am assuming most people who do airbnb investment have full time job, which makes it impossible to self manage. Yes and no. Still possibleThere's a lot of strategy you can play with Airbnb portal on how you want to target your renters 1. Rent long term - that way you don't have do cleaning every few days. Cheaper on your operating expenses 2. Target expatriate - they tend to stay long term compared to locals that just come for short staycation. Expatriates tend to be cleaner too and can take care of your property If can achieve those, then owner can go manage on their own cos you only need deal with check-in/check-out, cleaning once in blue moon. Just block the dates after tenant check out until when you are free to settle it. Your margin is ridiculously high so you can afford to let it vacant for few days |
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jun 18 2025, 10:43 AM) Confirm not in pristine condition. If u want to rent out thru airbnb, u need to accept that ur property will not be in pristine condition as its used by many ppl. That's what I thought too. I never seen a property management company that will take care of owners house. Pity those who spent fortune for ID then get trashed foofoosasa and bill11 liked this post
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Jun 18 2025, 11:01 AM
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This dude trying to sell you a property so he can reno and manage this as he works or is the boss of “makeover guys” ala reno company that cut-throat owners.
500sqft basic furnishing and reno will cost around 40k-50k with subpar china materials and furniture you can get from taobao This post has been edited by Bendan[520]: Jun 18 2025, 11:01 AM |
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should get advice from the apek/uncle that venture in this line.. not those same group age.
even he has few units, for the first 10 years probably ok to manage himself, after that the motivation will be different already (further demotivated if property price doesnt move up). I observed alot of ppl doesnt even qualified to be property owner themself because they dont even bother to manage it properly. You want agent to manage for you ? then your return will be lesser. property is really long game play, if you can tahan for 30-35 years until all the loan is finish then ok la, you deserve the fruits. But how many can really tahan ? especially if the cash flow affected has to do this kind of "forced saving"/ turn over from the tenant exit/entry, repairs, and maintenance fees increase. Havent include the mentality of tenant management yet. better the property price stagnant bah, so everyone can build the family and provide a better quality of living. |
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Oil change every 6 months with fully synthetic with paid off ICE car is still cheaper than buying “investment” property and EV plus solar roof.
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QUOTE(knwong @ Jun 18 2025, 10:46 AM) Yes and no. Still possible But passive income is income that just comes to you, not one where you need to go take care and clean house, and if you have 2 Airbnb properties or more, it’s not feasible to DIY.There's a lot of strategy you can play with Airbnb portal on how you want to target your renters 1. Rent long term - that way you don't have do cleaning every few days. Cheaper on your operating expenses 2. Target expatriate - they tend to stay long term compared to locals that just come for short staycation. Expatriates tend to be cleaner too and can take care of your property If can achieve those, then owner can go manage on their own cos you only need deal with check-in/check-out, cleaning once in blue moon. Just block the dates after tenant check out until when you are free to settle it. Your margin is ridiculously high so you can afford to let it vacant for few days |
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Jun 18 2025, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ Jun 18 2025, 11:01 AM) This dude trying to sell you a property so he can reno and manage this as he works or is the boss of “makeover guys” ala reno company that cut-throat owners. Topkek500sqft basic furnishing and reno will cost around 40k-50k with subpar china materials and furniture you can get from taobao compared taobao with local design company |
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Jun 18 2025, 11:43 AM
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He say he have 3 property.. he say only mah
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Jun 18 2025, 11:50 AM
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Ever heard of compressed loan TS?
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So jadi bapa ayam dpt 3?
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jun 17 2025, 10:38 PM) betul. haven't fully paid off still belongs to bank.This post has been edited by cooldog_777: Jun 18 2025, 11:58 AM max_cavalera liked this post
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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ Jun 18 2025, 11:01 AM) This dude trying to sell you a property so he can reno and manage this as he works or is the boss of “makeover guys” ala reno company that cut-throat owners. they have tik tok video, asking people guess how much is their reno cost. 500sqft basic furnishing and reno will cost around 40k-50k with subpar china materials and furniture you can get from taobao from the look it looks like 100k reno cost, but they say 20k, 13k, etc. i find it hard to believe. |
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Jun 18 2025, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 17 2025, 10:57 PM) Lol most of his sheep follower all bleeding money kaw2 😅🤣🤣 that guy bought the property even before iherng started youtube.2 studio unit monthly instalment rm7k…. Studio unit 400+ sqft buy price rm500k+… X 2 Gila this sohai really dig his own grave…. Tunggu mampus saja yini machem now got problem write in to ask for advice. |
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Jun 18 2025, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(dickybird @ Jun 18 2025, 11:26 AM) But passive income is income that just comes to you, not one where you need to go take care and clean house, and if you have 2 Airbnb properties or more, it’s not feasible to DIY. As long as you own a property, even though you rent it out long term like what other typical owners are doing - it’s never a passive income. You have to deal with renters, agents, complaints, maintenance, etc. ….need your time and attention dyThe true passive for me are stocks, trust fund, FD…can ignore them and collect earnings max_cavalera liked this post
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Jun 18 2025, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(cooldog_777 @ Jun 18 2025, 11:54 AM) they have tik tok video, asking people guess how much is their reno cost. They are not renovation company, more like deco company. Yes, package starts with 19k. Makeover are suitable for Airbnb because you no need to hack wall etc, you just need good aesthetic to make it looks good for your renter.from the look it looks like 100k reno cost, but they say 20k, 13k, etc. i find it hard to believe. |
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Jun 18 2025, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(knwong @ Jun 18 2025, 10:49 AM) That's what I thought too. I never seen a property management company that will take care of owners house. Pity those who spent fortune for ID then get trashed Not sure what u expect mgmt co to do? They check for faulty stuff and ask me to repair them. They get the cleaners to clean the place after every tenant change. Other wear and tear is normalI dont understand what u mean by pristine? U expect the house to be in perfect 100% pristine condition after ppl staying there almost everyday? Nothing is perfect dude. Thats why ppl pay to rent your house. If u cant accept wear and tear, dont rent out ur hse. The question is who ask u to spend a fortune on ID when u know ur unit is meant for airbnb? I got my unit and it was partially furnished from developer . Just added some stuff and it was good to go. Not even 10k for the stuff This post has been edited by sexysarah1992: Jun 18 2025, 01:08 PM |
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Jun 18 2025, 01:11 PM
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My boss used to tell me, you also can what, jus need to pay monthly installments je...
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Jun 18 2025, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(knwong @ Jun 18 2025, 10:19 AM) Actually one can calculate how much they earn and you can justify whether is it worth it... 1.8k is nothing for headache that they manage. Imagine u sendiri manage . U stay in Kota Kemuning and u get a call from the tenant at 11pm for your KL property at night saying something is broken . Say occupancy is 70% minimum and they rent out RM350/day so that'll net you 21 days x RM350 = RM7,350 Property manager take 25% = RM1,837.50 If you think your time is worth RM1,837.50 by outsourcing it out then engage them. Otherwise if manage yourself that's how much you earn Sorry, aint got time for that. Trust me i tried managing myself before. In the end u waste more on petrol, time and end up paying more for repairs and also the never ending calls from tenants asking questions and all This post has been edited by sexysarah1992: Jun 18 2025, 01:14 PM |
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jun 18 2025, 01:12 PM) 1.8k is nothing for headache that they manage. Imagine u sendiri manage . U stay in Kota Kemuning and u get a call from the tenant at 11pm for your KL property at night saying something is broken . Yeah it's not for everyone. Especially when you stay far away. There are some owners who stay in the same building where they have another unit for Airbnb. I also met owners that allow their retired parents to manage + clean. Give them some purpose of life - I think it's mutualSorry, aint got time for that. Trust me i tried managing myself before. In the end u waste more on petrol, time and end up paying more for repairs and also the never ending calls from tenants asking questions and all sexysarah1992 liked this post
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by own i hope it means fully paid or else....it's just owning millions to bank, working your ass off to pay off interest only winner is bank here wakaka max_cavalera liked this post
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Cukup la.. ayam 1 rental oso pening to manage.. tax lagi.. maintenance fee lagi..
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 18 2025, 08:26 PM) Those heavily invested and property agent say good enough already. If property crash, banks die people lose jobs. Tabule yini machiam pigi potong cashback. Lifeline of property market tu |
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I age 40 have 4 properties. 2 clear. 1 under my name but siblings paying (parent house) 1 still on loan cover 70% with rental. Like this also I felt burden. Wanna fast fast sell out the loan wan. That guys invest so heavy, crazy cari mati max_cavalera liked this post
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QUOTE(kens88` @ Jun 18 2025, 07:33 AM) I know right? I see them keep saying use 1st house refinance second house and so on... It seems kind of odd that banks allow to do this up to 3 or 4 times Some things I do listen from him while others I take it with a pinch of salt.As others commented, maybe he has high income from multiple sources that’s why it’s easy for him to get loans. Not a game for us normal people to play. |
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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Jun 17 2025, 11:38 PM) QUOTE(Rorschach85 @ Aug 22 2024, 08:13 AM) Post lama 2019, saya up balik waktu ini loan saya lulus beli rumah ke 8 guna profile ssm enterprise. AKU DAN LOAN ENTERPRISE (Suamiku) - awas panjang ya aku masih bekerja dan suamiku telah behenti kerja setelah aku melahirkan anak yang ketiga. beliau menjaga aku ketika aku berpantang. ketika beliau mengambil keputusan untuk berhenti aku tak boleh terima kenyataan kerana impian aku belum tercapai yakni memiliki rumah impian teres 2 tingkat. ya aku gaji kecil 2500 mana mampu beranggan tapi aku kena usaha lebih dari gaji sekarang. umumnya sebelum ini, kami guna slip gaji dan income sewa rumah kami sendiri. 🏡 rumah pertama - guna loan bank pakai slip gaji aku 🏠 rumah kedua - guna loan bank bersama kerana gaji suamiku kecil 1200 sahaja 🏠 rumah ketiga - guna loan lppsa nama aku 🏠 rumah keempat - loan bersama slip gaji gomen dan slip gaji swasta 🏠 rumahkelima- loan bersama guna slip gaji suami isteri 🏠 rumah rumah keenam - guna slip gaji aku seorang keluar dari rasa selesa: ya aku selesa makan gaji dan menikmati pendapatan sewaan. aku mula berjinak bidang sublet 2016 secara suka-suka tak termimpi untuk jadikan bisness fulltime. sebab aku selesa makan gaji suami isteri. 2017 tahun aku agak stress kerana dikejutkan berita suami berhenti kerja. tetapi tidak mematah semangatku untuk berusaha dan selesa, umumnya untuk korang yang telah lama follow aku. ✔️2015 aku beli rumah ketiga dan keempat ✔️2017 aku beli rumah kelima dan keenam ✔️2019 aku beli rumah ketujuh dan kelapan guna income enterprise sahaja. ketika apply loan rumah kelima, banker tanya pada aku ada bisness lain tak selain dari sewa? aku jawab ada tapi akaun semasa bisness akaun tiada. dari situ aku sudah rugi. kenapa rugi? sebab aku daftar SSM 2016 tapi buka akaun semasa 2017. mana aku tak stress nak buka akaun ssm dan akaun semasa pun aku kena push suami aku kalau tak, memang tak berjalan lerr.. Bulan ogos 2017 berubah: aku bertukar SOP rumah sewa dan sublet semua akaun sewa perhead aku masukkan dalam enterprise yakni akaun semasa sehinggalah 2018 aku mula susun resit dan dokumen-dokumen penting. ya, aku ada cerita detail di sharing enterprise aku. akhir tahun 2018 aku rasa gatal tangan, maka aku pergi cuci mata dengan suamiku di salak tinggi, aku jatuh cinta dengan 'layout' rumah itu, malangnya loan rumah tersebut tidak lepas kerana faktor banker inform aku 'sop bank tu sendiri telah bertukar.. ya aku masih ingat kredit bank itu argue aku kenapa tidak berhenti kerja memandangkan income sewa aku melebihi gaji bulanan aku. awal tahun 2019 aku frust tetapi aku gatal lagi pergi apply loan asbf dengan bank sotong guna income enterprise lepas dengan mudah. selepas itu suamiku pula gatal nak beli smart tv maka apply lagi loan jahat iaitu dari seng heng. maka jahat aku lagi pergi paksa dia beli rumah lelong dan akhirnya bergaduh laki bini.. hahhaa. masa ini aku dah frust kerana tidak berjaya loan rumah diidamkan maka aku buat kerja gila paksa suami aku beli rumah lelong melalui bosnya. asalnya bos beliau minta rekemenkan pada kawan ofis aku. tetapi aku rasa aku nak beli guna nama suami aku dan modal 80% daripada aku. 20% dari hasil jualan motor RXZ suamiku 25 april 2019 loan rumah ketujuh kami lulus dengan jayanya. YA ALLAH bertapa berdebar dan sujud syukur masa ini, almaklumlah beli lelong risiko tak lepas loan tu ada. dugaan ketika ini sebelum tu, rekod ccris suami daripada joint loan bertukar pada loan "own" pada laporan CCRIS belia, petang itu juga aku pergi serang bank sotong untuk betulkan balik CCRIS suamiku hehehehe. banker bank unta minta suami tambah asbf lagi..layan jela alang-alang kan. bulan julai 2019 berjaya proses dan setup rumah ketujuh dan masukkan penyewa, selepas itu heboh pulak pasal loan kereta dimuka buku, maka tak memasal terjoin sekali pergi show room kereta. akhirnya loan kereta pula lepas dengan jayanya, maka hati aku risau takut loan kereta lepas tapi sukar untuk dapatkan rumah idaman, maka aku berjaya saiko suamiku dan hiject supaya beliau tidak bersetuju dengan pembelian kerta outlander mitshubishi. petang pada 11 Julai 2019 - aku saje ajak suamiku ke galeri cybersouth cuci mata kawasan sekitar. maka eh terbooking plak rumahnya. setelah cerita pada ejen fad yang bertugas disitu. maka kita cuba kembali memohon loan rumah ke 8 akhirnya pada 20 ogos 2019 maka hari ini dapatla kami mengetahui result loan rumah idaman kami lulus dengan jayanya. ya kami sedar permohonan loan Enterprise bukan semua banker suka melayan, sangat sukar berbanding adanya slip gaji. tetapi kenapa kita tak cuba kan. kesimpulan permohonan loan pada tahun 2019 menggunakan income enterprise : 👉asbf Rm50,000 👉asbf Rm 55,000 👉hutang seng heng Rm7,000 👉loan rumah ke 7 Rm300 sebulan 👉loan kereta outlander Rm140,000 lulus tapi tidak ambil 👉loan rumah ke 8 Rm 2051,30 sebulan kau tahu aku risau asbf beliau tetapi banker kata masih lepas, so teruskan santak loan lagi sampai puas dapat rumah idaman kiki. so pada sesiapa yang takut untuk apply loan guna enterprise..jangan risau..ada ilmu dan bayar tax lepas dengan mudah dan bergaya gitu. jangan buat andaian menakutkan diri sendiri jika kau belum tentu mahu maju ke depan. nature bisness ketika memohon: ☑️20% dari pendapatan runner beliau ☑️20% dari pendapatan kerja repair dan reno rumah client ☑️60% dari pendapatan dari sublet rumah sewa next story.. bagaimana jemah dapatkan modal 30% rumah idaman? tunggu jela bila saya rajin menaip ya. kau ushaa, kau dapat, kau takut kau takkan dapat apa kau impikan.. mulakan degan beranggan dan usaha tanpa pandang apa orang bercakap belakang kau. sekian cerita dari jemah si gaji kecil tapi berimpian rumah teres 2tingkat demi keselesaan keluarga kecil kami. to my husband thanks kerana sudi mengikut perancangan isteri montel mu ini. 2019 saya beli projek lbs cybersouth Kemudian 2020 saya batalkan pembelian rumah ini kerana strata konsep dan tak boleh reno. Leasehold rezab melayu. 2020 saya beli projek simedarby jarak tak jauh beza cuma harga la up lagi 100,000 tapi berbaloi dengan milik individu geran dan freehold. Ni kerja paling gila saya buat dalam hidup saya.. Saya berani ambil risiko untuk buat keputuasan. Bukan anis la kalau tak mereng berani terlajak.. Tapi bab hantu je dia takut.. #anishafiza #misiMencariRumahIdaman #keraniAkaun » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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back the old day, when properties blooming time ppl combine money to buy alot of properties and quickly sell it off. yini tak boleh jealous
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envy what
it's a fact that your rentals will likely not cover your loan interest. so he's likely bleeding money and is working his ass off to pay off the bank |
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He’s owning on behalf of the banks
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Leverage buy property or leverage buy shares better?
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bought 3 properties when Im almost 30 years age, then married, got kids, those addition need more funds, health, education and stuff. Luckily all props are tenanted since getting the keys.
no 1 rental ok surplus, no 2, need top up rm100 to bank and numerous tenant in out, but current tenant are there since 3 years ago, while no 3, landed corner lot, need top up rm400 to bank, but she takes care of the house superbly, like she own it. Even tenant installed the carpet grass for the house, so I kinda closed eyes for rm400 top up. main plan, once Im heading 50-55, if Im lazy to work, wanna travel and stuff, will let go 1 or 2 props in that time, no 3 maybe transfer to kid. |
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At 30, bought 1 super semi D cornet lot house and new Estima With 3 kids ... salary just RM3.5k....it was damm burden and need very strong budgeting and spending Good things, i sitting on pile of cash inherit from grandparent...but i told myself, i will not use their money unless no way out... my family rarely travel oversea.. most time just go KL or Genting.... i also do part time car insurance agent.... manage to get average rm250-500 per month... work slowly climb up and promote... by age 40, my salary almost 4x now... Bought another 2 house to inherit to my kid else it will be hard for them to own house Change my Estima to Alphard.. rent out 2 house and renovate 1 house 3 years ago and move out from parent Finally stop my part time job to hv more freedom time. current 9-5 salary enough to cover my daily expenses and serving my loan... might suffer at first.. but with proper planning... nothing impossible i also do investment in mutual fund, extra contribution in EPF and SSPN (dont hv to worry on my kid education fees)...buying stock for future bit by bit... expecting to hv balance 500k balance loans enough to paid with my saving, investment and still hv left over enough for retirement age up to 80+ I don't own BMW or Merc .. just driving a recon Alphard and wife driving 10+ years Axia.. living in normal double story house..... My wife still using her only LV bag bought by my parent 15 years ago.... most time we use those Bonia or Pasar Malam bag to work we avoid spend money just to look rich but prefer keep in bank and counting our money silently during free time .... this more enjoy then showing off with car or luxury bag... This post has been edited by stevenlee: Jun 19 2025, 09:37 AM JimbeamofNRT, ehehdiamko, and 2 others liked this post
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QUOTE(stevenlee @ Jun 19 2025, 09:36 AM) At 30, bought 1 super semi D cornet lot house and new Estima Lucky your age RM3.5 can afford Semi D with 3 kids.With 3 kids ... salary just RM3.5k....it was damm burden and need very strong budgeting and spending Good things, i sitting on pile of cash inherit from grandparent...but i told myself, i will not use their money unless no way out... my family rarely travel oversea.. most time just go KL or Genting.... i also do part time car insurance agent.... manage to get average rm250-500 per month... work slowly climb up and promote... by age 40, my salary almost 4x now... Bought another 2 house to inherit to my kid else it will be hard for them to own house Change my Estima to Alphard.. rent out 2 house and renovate 1 house 3 years ago and move out from parent Finally stop my part time job to hv more freedom time. current 9-5 salary enough to cover my daily expenses and serving my loan... might suffer at first.. but with proper planning... nothing impossible i also do investment in mutual fund, extra contribution in EPF and SSPN (dont hv to worry on my kid education fees)...buying stock for future bit by bit... expecting to hv balance 500k balance loans enough to paid with my saving, investment and still hv left over enough for retirement age up to 80+ I don't own BMW or Merc .. just driving a recon Alphard and wife driving 10+ years Axia.. living in normal double story house..... My wife still using her only LV bag bought by my parent 15 years ago.... most time we use those Bonia or Pasar Malam bag to work we avoid spend money just to look rich but prefer keep in bank and counting our money silently during free time .... this more enjoy then showing off with car or luxury bag... Today you want to buy Semi D atleast need 1.5mil i guess? |
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Jun 19 2025, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Jun 19 2025, 09:39 AM) Lucky your age RM3.5 can afford Semi D with 3 kids. that correct..but i combine with my wife salary to afford the loan.... if you can afford house.. buy it before too late...Today you want to buy Semi D atleast need 1.5mil i guess? land are limited.. yearly inflation 3%-4%, price will definitely going up.. unless you plan to stay far away from city center.. if our current generation did not buy, it will be hard for coming generation... sooner will become like HK/ Taiwan or China where the house loan will be pay by 2-3 family generation.... This post has been edited by stevenlee: Jun 19 2025, 09:57 AM |
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Jun 19 2025, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(stevenlee @ Jun 19 2025, 09:36 AM) At 30, bought 1 super semi D cornet lot house and new Estima love ur story, especially planning to buy the house for the kids, tried doing the same. and currently retain my 11th-year-old car, which is not giving me any headache for repair, sure a nice BMW attracted my attention, but hold it. I am targeting to buy it used/ recond but cash instead maybe in 4-5 years time.With 3 kids ... salary just RM3.5k....it was damm burden and need very strong budgeting and spending Good things, i sitting on pile of cash inherit from grandparent...but i told myself, i will not use their money unless no way out... my family rarely travel oversea.. most time just go KL or Genting.... i also do part time car insurance agent.... manage to get average rm250-500 per month... work slowly climb up and promote... by age 40, my salary almost 4x now... Bought another 2 house to inherit to my kid else it will be hard for them to own house Change my Estima to Alphard.. rent out 2 house and renovate 1 house 3 years ago and move out from parent Finally stop my part time job to hv more freedom time. current 9-5 salary enough to cover my daily expenses and serving my loan... might suffer at first.. but with proper planning... nothing impossible i also do investment in mutual fund, extra contribution in EPF and SSPN (dont hv to worry on my kid education fees)...buying stock for future bit by bit... expecting to hv balance 500k balance loans enough to paid with my saving, investment and still hv left over enough for retirement age up to 80+ I don't own BMW or Merc .. just driving a recon Alphard and wife driving 10+ years Axia.. living in normal double story house..... My wife still using her only LV bag bought by my parent 15 years ago.... most time we use those Bonia or Pasar Malam bag to work we avoid spend money just to look rich but prefer keep in bank and counting our money silently during free time .... this more enjoy then showing off with car or luxury bag... but in my offices, those gen Z, I never found them using a normal Android phone, all are using 16 Pro max, and consistent taking 2 cup of premium coffee brand at office daily, when there is a Mamak stall nearby. This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Jun 19 2025, 10:12 AM |
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Jun 19 2025, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jun 19 2025, 10:12 AM) love ur story, especially planning to buy the house for the kids, tried doing the same. and currently retain my 11th-year-old car, which is not giving me any headache for repair, sure a nice BMW attracted my attention, but hold it. I am targeting to buy it used/ recond but cash instead maybe in 4-5 years time. yeah... i change to new car after 11 years using my Estima...but in my offices, those gen Z, I never found them using a normal Android phone, all are using 16 Pro max, and consistent taking 2 cup of premium coffee brand at office daily, when there is a Mamak stall nearby. those Gen Z , their parent can afford it... so they just spend spend but never think if one day, their financial support is not around... will they survive with this kind of life style... end up living paycheck to paycheck and complain everything expensive my office got few high class coffee vending machine... occasionally can see those gen z drink from those vending machine... each cup RM7-RM10... imagine drink for 26 days per month will cost RM260 just for coffee alone.... I only drink instant Nescafe O blend it from house and put in termos and bring to office |
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Jun 19 2025, 10:31 AM
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"Owning" lah tu.
More like owing the bank. |
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Jun 19 2025, 10:32 AM
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aku nk beli studio harga 350k pun pikir 2-3 kali eventhough aku tau boleh beli
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Jun 19 2025, 10:35 AM
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in Klang valley, the number of unsold lelong on high rise are alarmingly high. better target landed if really wanna to stay
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Jun 19 2025, 10:37 AM
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Jun 19 2025, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(ahchat @ Jun 19 2025, 10:32 AM) kalau landed property and mampu beli.... boleh aje bli terus... sebab landed biasa demand memang ada......but studio.. itu kadang kadang kena pikir pikir sikit... takut condo itu tukar jadi tempat operator/ orang asing kalau murah sangat... takut management teruk tak jaga baik baik... susah nak jual in future kalau tempat itu tak sesuai.. |
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Jun 19 2025, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(stevenlee @ Jun 19 2025, 10:45 AM) kalau landed property and mampu beli.... boleh aje bli terus... sebab landed biasa demand memang ada...... one of my units, the maintenance fund increased by 46% in year 12. Sure many angry but it is passed on the voting. reason, many parts need major repair especially the swimming pool facilities.but studio.. itu kadang kadang kena pikir pikir sikit... takut condo itu tukar jadi tempat operator/ orang asing kalau murah sangat... takut management teruk tak jaga baik baik... susah nak jual in future kalau tempat itu tak sesuai.. |
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Jun 19 2025, 11:13 AM
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With high rise supply constantly increasing and the population declining, owning property isn't such a flex anymore (if anything it's a dumb liability). There are way better avenues to grow money over 20-30 years
If anyone truly wish to buy, make sure it is either landed or for own stay only |
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Jun 19 2025, 12:52 PM
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34 yo bank contract kuli Contract tenure: 30 years Job scope: find your onw way and figure it your self. Salary : - 3,000 per month max_cavalera liked this post
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Jun 19 2025, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(cheryee @ Jun 19 2025, 11:37 AM) Someone smart finally said it….But many will still be stuck with property as the best investment asset ever! Im currently renting a brand new condo partially furnish costing owner rm400-450k….at just rm1500 monthly… she said cant even cover her loan instalment. Not yet masuk maitnenance fees. Meanwhile in the same location my old condo purchase almost 20 years ago at sub rm200k+…. Is collecting similar rent. Rm1400-1600. And i seen on property listing online subsale on sale for almost similar price to what i bought 20 years ago…. Cold market. No demand from subsale. I really cant brain the inefficency in prop market. Pipur willing to all In rm400-600k brand new developer condo and collecting similar rental rate to old subsale condo at almost half the selling price. This post has been edited by max_cavalera: Jun 19 2025, 01:06 PM |
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Jun 19 2025, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 19 2025, 01:06 PM) Someone smart finally said it…. Wow anneh is smart.. rent out old one stay new one. After 5 yrs another newer one..But many will still be stuck with property as the best investment asset ever! Im currently renting a brand new condo partially furnish costing owner rm400-450k….at just rm1500 monthly… she said cant even cover her loan instalment. Not yet masuk maitnenance fees. Meanwhile in the same location my old condo purchase almost 20 years ago at sub rm200k+…. Is collecting similar rent. Rm1400-1600. And i seen on property listing online subsale on sale for almost similar price to what i bought 20 years ago…. Cold market. No demand from subsale. I really cant brain the inefficency in prop market. Pipur willing to all In rm400-600k brand new developer condo and collecting similar rental rate to old subsale condo at almost half the selling price. |
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Jun 19 2025, 01:15 PM
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own? or the bank own?
big difference weh |
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Jun 19 2025, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 19 2025, 01:06 PM) Someone smart finally said it…. klang valley issue, every time is high-rise high high-density construction.But many will still be stuck with property as the best investment asset ever! Im currently renting a brand new condo partially furnish costing owner rm400-450k….at just rm1500 monthly… she said cant even cover her loan instalment. Not yet masuk maitnenance fees. Meanwhile in the same location my old condo purchase almost 20 years ago at sub rm200k+…. Is collecting similar rent. Rm1400-1600. And i seen on property listing online subsale on sale for almost similar price to what i bought 20 years ago…. Cold market. No demand from subsale. I really cant brain the inefficency in prop market. Pipur willing to all In rm400-600k brand new developer condo and collecting similar rental rate to old subsale condo at almost half the selling price. |
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Jun 19 2025, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jun 19 2025, 02:21 PM) I honestly think high density will be better for the future. Why? Got economic of scale: - cheaper maintenance fees. The condo anneh renting now got around 3000 units total development. Maintenance fees below rm200. - more facilities for the residences. Big ass landscape parks. Big ass pools. Courts, gym, etc2 - got ribu2 unit and ribu2 occupants. Got volume. So many nice eateries, clinics, nursery/preschool and groceries come in open at their residents only shoplots. |
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 19 2025, 01:26 PM) I honestly think high density will be better for the future. depends, we keep hearing lot2 of unsold units for high-rise> landed, understandable due to volumes. And for maintenance, I'm not sure if high volume is indeed easier to take care (cz higher fund) than low-dense condo, especially heading year 3 onwards. Cz first 2 years usually covered with warranty by developerWhy? Got economic of scale: - cheaper maintenance fees. The condo anneh renting now got around 3000 units total development. Maintenance fees below rm200. - more facilities for the residences. Big ass landscape parks. Big ass pools. Courts, gym, etc2 - got ribu2 unit and ribu2 occupants. Got volume. So many nice eateries, clinics, nursery/preschool and groceries come in open at their residents only shoplots. |
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 19 2025, 01:26 PM) I honestly think high density will be better for the future. actually for property investment, number 1 consideration is always Location. Because, again the Location determine your unit and its rental prospect. Why? Got economic of scale: - cheaper maintenance fees. The condo anneh renting now got around 3000 units total development. Maintenance fees below rm200. - more facilities for the residences. Big ass landscape parks. Big ass pools. Courts, gym, etc2 - got ribu2 unit and ribu2 occupants. Got volume. So many nice eateries, clinics, nursery/preschool and groceries come in open at their residents only shoplots. How to determine a great location, then that is another question but if you done some research you shall know. Which is why iHerng also used the data he has to response back to that dude... tourist prefers to stay in KLCC. |
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Jun 19 2025, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 19 2025, 01:26 PM) I honestly think high density will be better for the future. High dense condo good for tenant, because rental low.Why? Got economic of scale: - cheaper maintenance fees. The condo anneh renting now got around 3000 units total development. Maintenance fees below rm200. - more facilities for the residences. Big ass landscape parks. Big ass pools. Courts, gym, etc2 - got ribu2 unit and ribu2 occupants. Got volume. So many nice eateries, clinics, nursery/preschool and groceries come in open at their residents only shoplots. bad for owner, competitive when selling. |
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Jun 19 2025, 04:55 PM
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Jun 19 2025, 04:58 PM
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Jun 19 2025, 05:37 PM
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i don't consider it mine cause still owing bank money
but i never buy new cause find it too expensive in the same area i can find better value in 2nd hand, also cause i dogshit scared of new property cannot imagine and cannot see physically |
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QUOTE(Zer0 c00L @ Jun 19 2025, 05:55 PM) i don't consider it mine cause still owing bank money new one the price all sell future pricebut i never buy new cause find it too expensive in the same area i can find better value in 2nd hand, also cause i dogshit scared of new property cannot imagine and cannot see physically |
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Jun 22 2025, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(Zer0 c00L @ Jun 19 2025, 05:55 PM) i don't consider it mine cause still owing bank money When is your last purchase?but i never buy new cause find it too expensive in the same area i can find better value in 2nd hand, also cause i dogshit scared of new property cannot imagine and cannot see physically |
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Jun 22 2025, 08:21 PM
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Jun 23 2025, 08:26 AM
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You could buy 3 toyhouse
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my fren 32, manager already 5 figures monthly. ok la some people young but can afford
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