Lets focus on real compute power and not #FakeFrames™

Sure, if you like gaming with Vaseline smeared into your eyes.

Latency too w/framegen

what's wrong with Palit?
I doubt MSI cheapest model is better than Palit cheapest model.
or is it about customer support?

The built quality is the most basic u can find. Over spec cooler and heat sink allows gpu auto boost quieter, essentially free performance.

No one wants a high end gpu choke by it's thermal headroom

MSI Ventus & Shadow tier isnt that better than Palit Dual models. The same with Giga Eagles which is known to have underspec cooler with loud fans.

Unless your comparing each others topline, their bottom range models are quite similar build quality. The (arguably) advantage of known brands is their better/ faster/ easier warranty claims (however Asus will try to make you pay for warranty claims LOL).

Would avoid those lower tier gpu as well, regardless of brand.

If buying 60s series card I think those are ok. But I think TS is going 5080? Is basically the heart of the built, best not cheap out on that.

there is no free performance. you have to pay a lot for over spec cooler.

Agree on that.
Maybe I said too vaguely.

Is ok When buying 60s or below card with basic coolers. There isn't much room to expand with better coolers. At those price point good coolers 60s will overlap with 70s card.

Since TS is going for 5080, a power hungry card, best have a more beefy cooler.
Though I'm not sure is this marketing from Aib, those premium spec have customs board design, like extra bios switch, better power delivery and components and what not, factory overclocked and will boost even higher during actual use.

They can have performance gain 2 to 5% on grandscheme.

Not sure if this is true, but premium card will have been pre-binned by Aib. Like evga Kingpin card last time, the chip that can boost to a certain degree will be filtered out to made it that tier.

Yes the price do swing wildly from basic to premium 3.5 slots behemoth cards. Whether is worth it kinda up to the buyer.

My opinion is since next tier is 5090 which is thousands Rm aparts, having a better built 5080 might be a good idea, since ppl with such expensive rig won't change in near future.

P/S
I use a 6800xt asus tuf (mid tier gpu), my card can't boost as high as power color red devil, which can basically max out the clock slider. Matching performance of 6900xt.

It happens the same as well few year back when I'm using 1080ti better cooler does able to overclock higher.

This post has been edited by littlegamer: Jun 23 2025, 06:45 PM

Higher tier GPU ranges are also near comparable unless its their flagship vs flagship. Palit has few tiers GamePro (lower) & GameRock (higher).
The Gamerock seems to have good build quality with ample cooling perf (nearly on par to the much much more expensive Asus Astral)
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/palit-ge...rock-oc/39.html

With modern GPUS manual OC is a past thing, just slap on hulking oversized cooler and it will turbo boost past its rated MHZ. Ie my 3060TI ref model supposedly boost rated at 1665 MHz but could boost upto 1900+ MHZ in games and I didnt do anything.

60 cards don't generate a lot of heat to begin with. Paying pricy cooler for it though boost well the performance gain ain't that much compare to 80s card.

I mentioned too on my other reply. Since 80s card next tier up is 5090, is ok to spend more for quiet operation or better out of box boost.
I disagree on manual oc is thing of the past.

Good power delivery components and cooling and good binned chips does makes a difference.

My asus tuf is 6800xt is mid tier Aib, I have seen many 6800xt power color red devil or asrock taichi can slide oc slider all the way to the right and still stable. ( these 2 cards has 3 8pin compare to mine 2 8pin)

Is abit out of topic. But I do belive quality components and custom pcb makes a different although is the same chip tier.

I would personally recommend asrock, they have their lower tier cooler as well as fully decked out with 3 slot called taichi oc. While msi asus and gigabytes are popular brands, with questionable supports, among the 3 I think gigabyte aurorus master is the better ones.

But anyway, is best get something more reputable than Palit, Pny, or galax. ( I think these 3 are kinda the budgets ones). To me these are great when scouting for msrp cards.


Sorry for the long winded essay. I personally think 60s card or something below 250w tdp card there is no much incentive to pay beefy coolers,you can go the next tier up gpu like the 70s.
Only when 70s 80s card worth the beefy cooler.
1. Better cooljng
2. Quieter fan operation
3. Better custom pcb and bios
4. Better binned chip (though this might be a myth)
5. Better power delivery components
7. Better blinks and cosmetic

Asrock has a few tiers of GPUS with Challenger being MSRP model and that Taichi is actually one of their higher range models comparable somewhere between TUF and Strix models (now Astral is top, its on level with Strix).

Of course to get more you have to pay more, that Taichi is few hundreds over the MSRP just for the same GPU so whether its worth paying much more will depend on better cooling & aesthetics. Bigger cooler may not necessarily be a good thing as too largish will have problems fitting into compact cases or else wont able to mount it vertically.

I disagree with you in that imho all GPU will benefit from a better cooler as it can boost higher if allowed so (same as my 3060TI). However theres diminishing returns as paying too much more will be nearly as much as buying the next segment (60 -> 60TI, 60TI -> 70).

Asus is one of the main culprit where their TUF & Strix models are so overpriced its nearly same as paying for next level MSRP model from China AIB (TUF 5060 is only RM 200 less than Colorful 5060TI)

Yes I agree what u say, 60ti high tier will cost as much as 70s entry ones.
But TS is buying 5080, the next tier up is 5090 which is way more expensive for a 5080 to touch that price point , thus it might be worth the top up for beefier cooler for 5080.

60s cars just stick with msrp models, even if they boost higher the gain is lesser compare to a 80s boost.
60s 5% performance boost vs 80s 5% performance boost is 2 vastly different gain.

Ummm... for 5060, a 5% boost will bring it halfway to next tier 5060TI (+12%)


Meanwhile for 5080, a 5% still wont bring it much closer to 5090 (+52%)


In relative scaling, if 5080 is perf at 200FPS and 5060 is at 70FPS, at 5% boost you would 'feel' the higher FPS gains on a 5060 (74 FPS) than on 5080 (210 FPS).

That's the point, there is not much to say about 60s card. No matter how high it boost with good cooler, best step up is next tier card. There is no reason to spend more money on buffing up a 60s cooler.

Where 5080, even buy the asus astral also won't touch 5090 performance , that 5090 can just assume it is non existent since is really way way out of any typical buyer.
A basic 5080 vs a decked out 5080 (not asus astral), maybe cost rm 400 to 600 more?, since is already highest end card, is worth to those with overbuilt components.

The easiest analogy I can give is. Buying i5 AIO cooled to oc better, vs i7 air cooled. They are almost same price but ofc is better to go the i7 route.
What I'm suggesting is, since getting i7 why not get the AIO (analogy of 5080 getting a beefy cooler), since the next tier up is i9, and beyond normal usage case.

P/S
yes I know cpu pricing is another story and the price are much closer, however 5080 and 5090 gap is 1k usd, which somewhat makes the 5080 a flagship card.

Hmm... maybe bcoz Im more a budget and value oriented consumer I cant really reconcile your stance with my logic. I mean you do have a point and I can see why people who have more money to spend does have their reasons to go with higher tier AIBS and those Astrals & Strixs.

But when I look at this price comparison...



I cannot fathom any justification for such a price gap moreso if the cheaper card is only 2oC higher than that Astral.

But I know different people see money value differently so lets agree to disagree.

Don't get the astral, it is the best and the most weirdly decked out one.
I seen the review for Palit game rock is gooder choice compare to the other Palit variant.

But at Palit game rock price, gigabyte and msi also offer similar deals. Gigabyte 5080 even have thermal gel instead of thermal pads for vram and power delivery components on the board.

Nothing against Palit, but msi and gigabyte are the easier recommendations in general. Palit been quite long in the industry but is still lesser known/reviewed. If it is vastly cheaper, no doubt I buy it as well.

Giga thermal gel... umm yeah right
https://www.reddit.com/r/gigabyte/comments/...th_leaking_gel/