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 Msian Feels Undervalued Getting RM2.4k Salary, Even with Engineering Degree & 2 Yrs Exp

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brkli
post Jun 16 2025, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Jun 16 2025, 06:26 PM)
depends lah which field of engineering
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social engineering.. owai..
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post Jun 16 2025, 08:55 PM

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you look at SissyP grads coming out every year...
terus jadi lie flat in mamas basement eating cup noodles now....after sending out 100s of CV and no reply.

si if you have a job that pays less, at least still got a job... just do it. Coz whats gonna happen is , if you dont want to do the job for that pay, someone down the road will do it for the same price or even cheaper...


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post Jun 16 2025, 08:55 PM

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I pasang pc also more than that liau.
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post Jun 16 2025, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(R0ADTAX @ Jun 16 2025, 08:51 PM)
all the rage is Trades/Skills nowadays

been hearing it for 10 years already, its still raging
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It has intensified more than ever compared to the past 10 years before.

Now every year paper mills are releasing millions but jobs are not keeping up with the population growth.

Do you agree civil wars and riots is slowly rising?

China, India, Indonesia all those highly populated countries it's just waiting to happen. You only have so much money creation in the market but you need to feed mouths and increase living standards of the country to satisfy voters.
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post Jun 16 2025, 08:57 PM

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Last time 1 degree engineer per 100,00 population get good salary

Now 1 degree engineer per 100 population you expect the same? Not saying you degree might a sampah degree
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Elon Musk’s Incredible Speech on the Education System

College system is to see if you can handle stress when the school assigns you with homework to test if you can keep up with that particular subject/industry course.

Tesla hiring doesn't require you even a degree record in your resume.

The company doesn't consider going to college and having a degree a proof of exceptional ability.


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QUOTE(soul78 @ Jun 16 2025, 08:55 PM)
you look at SissyP grads coming out every year...
terus jadi lie flat in mamas basement eating cup noodles now....after sending out 100s of CV and no reply.

si if you have a job that pays less, at least still got a job... just do it. Coz whats gonna happen is , if you dont want to do the job for that pay, someone down the road will do it for the same price or even cheaper...
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If you apply those low level menial jobs or irrelevant industry, you won't even get pass preliminary filtering.

Employers will think you're either desperate or a loser that will tarnish the reputation of their company despite your humility to start low or tryout another industry when you're unemployable in your field of study.

Not as simple as you think. End up it's almost impossible to get hired once you are in mid age with experience, with good academic records and willing to work as kuli from bottom.

The last line is true, now with the oversupply in market if you don't get the job plenty else out there will get it. Like throwing a small pinch of bread into the pond filled with fishes.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jun 16 2025, 08:23 PM)
Most of my street smart friends who dropped out of college by mid life they are already successful business owners themselves. Some got pama inheritance but they are out of the job seeking markets.

That is what defined a real street smart person, they are already employers themselves in midlife while postgrads with PhDs and Masters are just fresh out of school looking for jobs.
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Those are gifted. How many succeeded? Everyone thinks by dropping out of college = success. But that's only the tip of an iceberg most of the time. With money, you can always grow money. And, thes people usually have exposure in their early life.

What I'm referring to street smart are those that put bare minimum but still doing above average compared to their peers. These are the street smart ones that work their way up in mnc. Not those 2.5 defining as street smart.

And phd and master holders are rubbish nowadays. Not everyone is equal. So easy to earn these degree nowadays. So it doesn't have value anymore.

This post has been edited by malz89: Jun 16 2025, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE(anudora @ Jun 16 2025, 06:20 PM)
Engineer=kuli.
Engineer=kuli.
Engineer=kuli.
Engineer=kuli.
Engineer=kuli.
Engineer=kuli.
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What a fucking insult wei.

We study our ass off, apply critical thinking skills to solve problems and that's all we get? 2400? And the title of kuli??

No wonder MY is having a serious brain drain!
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QUOTE(malz89 @ Jun 16 2025, 09:22 PM)
Those are gifted. How many succeeded? Everyone thinks by dropping out of college = success. But that's only the tip of an iceberg most of the time. With money, you can always grow money. And, thes people usually have exposure in their early life.

What I'm referring to street smart are those that put bare minimum but still doing above average compared to their peers. These are the street smart ones that work their way up in mnc. Not those 2.5 defining as street smart.

And phd and master holders are rubbish nowadays. Not everyone is equal. So easy to earn these degree nowadays. So it doesn't have value anymore.
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End up the rich business owners passing down their empires to their children and keeping their wealth intact through next generations.

Peasants will stay in the paradigms of their own segments unless a big revolution happens in the country.

What you describe money growing more money is called the Cantillon Effect even more unlikely with the Nons in this country if you come from B40 level.


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post Jun 16 2025, 09:48 PM

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engineering graduates are more appreciated overseas
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Jun 16 2025, 09:48 PM)
engineering graduates are more appreciated overseas
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Not today.

You're up against the large oversupply from China, India, Vietnam and Indonesia.
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Youth Unemployment Crisis in China Shakes Regime Trust from the People


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QUOTE(potatolala @ Jun 16 2025, 06:28 PM)
Jump to software engineering. It is the best engineering rn.
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SE is shit if start on the wrong foot also. (like me) mega_shok.gif
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QUOTE(GHBZDK @ Jun 16 2025, 10:09 PM)
SE is shit if start on the wrong foot also. (like me)  mega_shok.gif
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Like they say everyone thinks by learning coding they can instantly become the next Zuckerberg, or Bill Gates.

All fooled by the cabalistic system.
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post Jun 16 2025, 10:22 PM

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You work for people is like that, unless your own business. 😅
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company apa ni offer 2400?

kalau kerja kerajaan penolong pegawai tadbir N5 guna STPM pun boleh dapat 2400 dengan elaun

gaji 1650
elaun rumah 300
COLA 300
elaun khidmat awam 160

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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Jun 16 2025, 10:40 PM)
company apa ni offer 2400?

kalau kerja kerajaan penolong pegawai tadbir N5 guna STPM pun boleh dapat 2400 dengan elaun

gaji 1650
elaun rumah 300
COLA 300
elaun khidmat awam 160
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Habis kerajaan mampu tanggung dan menjadi majikan terbesar negara?

Setiap tahun beribu-ribu graduan keluar cari kerja. Sektor swasta pula tak henti goreng pekerja untuk mengurangkan kos operasi.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jun 16 2025, 10:52 PM)
Habis kerajaan mampu tanggung dan menjadi majikan terbesar negara?

Setiap tahun beribu-ribu graduan keluar cari kerja. Sektor swasta pula tak henti goreng pekerja untuk mengurangkan kos operasi.
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kerajaan tak perlu jadi majikan terbesar

swasta la patut ikut ekonomi semasa

cuba banding gaji kerajaan dan swasta 20 tahun yg lepas dgn skrg
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post Jun 16 2025, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jun 16 2025, 06:16 PM)
M’sian Feels Undervalued After Getting RM2.4k Offer Despite Engineering Degree & 2 Years’ Experience
https://weirdkaya.com/msian-feels-undervalu...ars-experience/
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Chemical engineering?? I heard Iran is scrambling for chemical engineers. Pls check n apply. Expat life should be luxurious. You are welcome.

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