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US approve Malaysia acquire Kuwaiti F/A-18 Hornets
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30624770
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Jun 16 2025, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Jun 16 2025, 07:17 PM) Why malaysia no buy J planes from PRC ? Malaysia historically only buys US jets from F5E to Skyhawks. It was only when we need to replace them, Tun M went to Russia and brought MIGS29 but we faced problems with maintenance and the SU30s also will face the problem due to sanctions on Russia. We already made decision to buy the Koreans jets to replace our Hawks. The Koreans jets are based on US tech. If we buy China jets, we will face problems integration again like how we faced in the past with F18, Mig29 and SU30.
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RT8081
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Jun 16 2025, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jun 16 2025, 07:40 PM) Malaysia historically only buys US jets from F5E to Skyhawks. It was only when we need to replace them, Tun M went to Russia and brought MIGS29 but we faced problems with maintenance and the SU30s also will face the problem due to sanctions on Russia. We already made decision to buy the Koreans jets to replace our Hawks. The Koreans jets are based on US tech. If we buy China jets, we will face problems integration again like how we faced in the past with F18, Mig29 and SU30. Ok 👍
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TRAZE99
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Jun 16 2025, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jun 16 2025, 05:10 PM) Really? Until there is not much Diff when comparing latest of 2025 vs 1980s? No wonder USA don't need to develop new fighter jets and allowing others to lead. And why F14 can beat all fighter jets. LOL. Either way, I don't know any better since I don't follow weaponry news. I hope Madani didn't throw money into a hole or into his cronies pocket only. All these will be paid by us the taxpayers. If madani cut all of petrol subsidy ,sure can afford new jet. But are you willing to bare with it? ,please do note that our military is almost become a joke compared to neighboring countries. This is just a stop gap purchase.
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yhtan
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Jun 16 2025, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Jun 16 2025, 06:17 PM) Why malaysia no buy J planes from PRC ? judging from geological map, China is nearer to us and pose a military threat, if PLA initiate war on us, all the J plane confirm kena lock
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RT8081
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Jun 16 2025, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 16 2025, 08:11 PM) judging from geological map, China is nearer to us and pose a military threat, if PLA initiate war on us, all the J plane confirm kena lock Ok make sense too! 👍
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ps3 fanboy
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Jun 16 2025, 08:15 PM
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New Member
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yeah, make sense us want to arm us to the teeth
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SUSheadache
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Jun 16 2025, 08:17 PM
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Will be breakfast for J-10Cs. Would be great against the sulus and their ilks I guess.
Beggars can't be choosers as the saying goes.
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Wedchar2912
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Jun 16 2025, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(TRAZE99 @ Jun 16 2025, 08:05 PM) If madani cut all of petrol subsidy ,sure can afford new jet. But are you willing to bare with it? ,please do note that our military is almost become a joke compared to neighboring countries. This is just a stop gap purchase. well, I guess it will have to depend on the costing... seems like the plan is to get like 30 of such planes... if we can get them for the cheap, like 10 bucks each, sure makes sense.... But if it is at full price of like 80 million, now that is silly especially as stop-gap. May as well aim for latest and greatest and order like 15 from USA and 20 from China... even things out and long term may be cheaper and more effective. (more from china cos I would guess China's cheaper and better get a few more for parts too)
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issac99289928
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Jun 16 2025, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 16 2025, 08:11 PM) judging from geological map, China is nearer to us and pose a military threat, if PLA initiate war on us, all the J plane confirm kena lock if PLA initiate war , all the US made jets can not survive for long . stealth or not. it makes no difference.
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TRAZE99
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Jun 16 2025, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jun 16 2025, 08:20 PM) well, I guess it will have to depend on the costing... seems like the plan is to get like 30 of such planes... if we can get them for the cheap, like 10 bucks each, sure makes sense.... But if it is at full price of like 80 million, now that is silly especially as stop-gap. May as well aim for latest and greatest and order like 15 from USA and 20 from China... even things out and long term may be cheaper and more effective. (more from china cos I would guess China's cheaper and better get a few more for parts too) Of course cheap or foc ....if not we also won't be muka tebal go ask for it .with our military budget allocation, you see also will laugh what to buy with it. At most give you buy few attack heli and few amored car and light weapons. Want say rm80 million a pop fighter jet is out of questions.
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yhtan
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Jun 16 2025, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(issac99289928 @ Jun 16 2025, 08:23 PM) if PLA initiate war , all the US made jets can not survive for long . stealth or not. it makes no difference. Can fight or not is different story, military procurement often associate with nation alliance. For Malaysia to stay neutral, military procurement better side with US/EU, if not Malaysia will be perceive as siding China in obvious way
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farisq
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Jun 16 2025, 08:38 PM
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In b4 we bought 90s tech, confirmed AI feature not included lol...
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smallcrab
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Jun 16 2025, 08:39 PM
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Kito hanya mampu beli 2nd hand
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Raddus
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Jun 16 2025, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(issac99289928 @ Jun 16 2025, 08:23 PM) if PLA initiate war , all the US made jets can not survive for long . stealth or not. it makes no difference. PLA is peaceful they will never attack small countries Only usa and Israel bully small countries This post has been edited by Raddus: Jun 16 2025, 08:53 PM
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Raddus
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Jun 16 2025, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Jun 16 2025, 06:29 PM) These would be the planes that get completely bombed to smithereens before the war starts. Buying 2nd hand seems like good strategy. Also get more unmanned vtol drones that we can hide in submarines. Those would be the one to take out the opposing Alien forces mothership. If malaysia can softmod these f18 with advanced radars and missiles then maybe can stand up Use these as bait and switch spamm BVR missiles Whole swarm of f18 while at the back more advanced fighter will do the job
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Wedchar2912
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Jun 16 2025, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(farisq @ Jun 16 2025, 08:38 PM) In b4 we bought 90s tech, confirmed AI feature not included lol... This may turn out to be a positive....
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skywardsword
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Jun 16 2025, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Jun 16 2025, 08:56 PM) If malaysia can softmod these f18 with advanced radars and missiles then maybe can stand up Use these as bait and switch spamm BVR missiles Whole swarm of f18 while at the back more advanced fighter will do the job Modern fighter jets, are just too overwhelming when launched in the air. Any Alien forces, will just spam cruise missile to kill any or all runways. After that, they are just sitting ducks.
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danielmckey
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Jun 16 2025, 11:06 PM
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I believe we can fly.
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ceras
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Jun 17 2025, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jun 16 2025, 06:29 PM) We are not fighting our neighbours Same question, what are the F18s for if they are not for protection against neighbouring conflicts. Which country arms itself not against neighbours but for long distance confrontation? If we can't even match our neighbours, which country should our F18s be targeting against? Conversely, our neighbours assets are targeting against which country?
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JimbeamofNRT
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Jun 17 2025, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 16 2025, 03:01 PM) tax avocado hnghhhhhhhhhh
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