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post Jun 10 2025, 08:37 AM, updated 7 months ago

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The news say UMW is going to bring in the hybrid vios version to malaysia in year 2025, but due to some reason, they delay it to 2026.
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How is hybrid car, and toyota hybrid nowdays?
i saw some are cursing honda hybrid

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When vios hybrid masuk Malaysia, many features will be lost, dulu, kini & selama nya!
#ApaMaluBossKu?
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post Jun 10 2025, 08:47 AM

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If Vios Hybrid RM130k , Sime, sila simpan dlm warehouse, tunggu exhibition ja.
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post Jun 10 2025, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jun 10 2025, 08:46 AM)
When vios hybrid masuk Malaysia, many features will be lost, dulu, kini & selama nya!
#ApaMaluBossKu?
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Who cares la. RV more important for toyota buyer.
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Jun 10 2025, 08:37 AM)
1.5-litre 2NR-VEX Atkinson-cycle petrol engine
Output: 91 PS and 121 Nm
Electric motor: 80 PS and 141 Nm
Battery: 0.7-kWh lithium-ion
Combined output: 111 PS

How is hybrid car, and toyota hybrid nowdays?
i saw some are cursing honda hybrid
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Dang, the electric motor just 11PS less than petrol engine, almost can convert to PHEV by adding battery capacity?

BTW what's wrong with Honda hybrids? Seldom hear any problems with them.

Toyota recycle old reliable tech whenever possible, Honda normally utilize more recent/cutting edge tech, so Hondas will have more problems one.
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QUOTE(giftfre @ Jun 10 2025, 08:47 AM)
If Vios Hybrid RM130k , Sime, sila simpan dlm warehouse, tunggu exhibition ja.
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Strip naked, featureless, boleh under RM110k whistling.gif
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post Jun 10 2025, 08:53 AM

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in 2025 , entry level car must be at least 210nm....

if not just sit a bull cart jer...
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post Jun 10 2025, 08:53 AM

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hybrid the future for post-RON95 subsidi era
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post Jun 10 2025, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jun 10 2025, 08:52 AM)
Strip naked, featureless, boleh under RM110k whistling.gif
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Spare tyre tak ada, 2 air bags saja. Sport rim kasi balik 15"
Gear Box perlu tak sebab dah hybrid type. Mungkin harga sikit mahal daripada sekarang.
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post Jun 10 2025, 08:58 AM

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post Jun 10 2025, 08:59 AM

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Vios already 100k.
Hybrid another top up ?
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QUOTE(giftfre @ Jun 10 2025, 08:47 AM)
If Vios Hybrid RM130k , Sime, sila simpan dlm warehouse, tunggu exhibition ja.
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Mazda 3 with junk 1.5na also can sell 120k, why not?
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QUOTE(h@ksam @ Jun 10 2025, 08:53 AM)
hybrid the future for post-RON95 subsidi era
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Without ron95 subsidy, govt should give tax incentives for hybrids n with the onslaught of China hybrids we should get them <70k.

AI Overview
The most affordable plug-in hybrid (PHEV) car in China is the Wuling Starlight, followed by the Shangong Qan A5. Both of these are popular choices in the Chinese market due to their lower price points and increasing popularity of hybrid vehicles.
Here's a more detailed look at why they're popular:
Affordability:
The Wuling Starlight is known as the most affordable PHEV in China, with a starting price around $10,880. This makes it accessible to a wider range of buyers compared to traditional gasoline cars and even some other hybrid options.
Government Incentives:
The Chinese government has been promoting the adoption of new energy vehicles (NEVs) like PHEVs through various incentives, including tax cuts and subsidies.
Rising Demand:
There's a growing demand for hybrid vehicles in China, driven by factors like fuel efficiency, environmental concerns, and the potential for long-term savings.
BYD's Dominance:
While Wuling and Shangong are affordable, BYD is also a major player in the hybrid and electric vehicle market in China, with models like the Qin Plus and Seal 06. BYD's popularity is also linked to its affordable prices and competitive technology, particularly in the plug-in hybrid segment.
Longer Range and Fuel Efficiency:
Many of the top-selling hybrid models offer longer driving ranges compared to traditional hybrid vehicles, which also contribute to their appeal. The Qin Plus and Seal 06, for example, can travel up to 2,100km on a single charge with a full tank of fuel.
Competition:
The Chinese automotive market is highly competitive, with numerous manufacturers offering a variety of hybrid and electric vehicles, including both local and international brands
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post Jun 10 2025, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jun 10 2025, 08:52 AM)
Strip naked, featureless, boleh under RM110k whistling.gif
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vios itself is already around that price
battery aren't cheap

with UMW, it can only get more expensive
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post Jun 10 2025, 09:08 AM

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finally mvvi no longer got same engine as vios owaii
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Jun 10 2025, 08:37 AM)

How is hybrid car, and toyota hybrid nowdays?
i saw some are cursing honda hybrid
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Toyota Hybrid 4th generation above is the best in market.
CCP car brands will say otherwise, but I trust Toyota more than any CCP car brands.
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post Jun 10 2025, 09:20 AM

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power!!!

will happily trade in my X50 turbo for this.

Sime Darby faster bring this car, want see berapa ringgit
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 10 2025, 09:30 AM)
power!!!

will happily trade in my X50 turbo for this.

Sime Darby faster bring this car, want see berapa ringgit
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thread mana?bila buka?
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post Jun 10 2025, 09:49 AM

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Same gen with yaris cross mean still lose to honda current ehev.

So kiamsiap dun want use the same from camry
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post Jun 10 2025, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(soul78 @ Jun 10 2025, 08:53 AM)
in 2025 , entry level car must be at least 210nm....

if not just sit a bull cart jer...
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DAFXK is 210nm?
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post Jun 10 2025, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(Zhik @ Jun 10 2025, 10:15 AM)
DAFXK is 210nm?
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kalau tak suka mahai mali BYD or protong
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Jun 10 2025, 08:37 AM)
The news say UMW is going to bring in the hybrid vios version to malaysia in year 2025, but due to some reason, they delay it to 2026.
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sos kicap thai

How is hybrid car, and toyota hybrid nowdays?
i saw some are cursing honda hybrid
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one ktard tow truck his prius c lel

but it's like 12 yo and 290k mileage
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QUOTE(lawliet88 @ Jun 10 2025, 09:49 AM)
Same gen with yaris cross mean still lose to honda current ehev.

So kiamsiap dun want use the same from camry
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Camry hybrid is 2.5L wor. not meant for Vios

so this one same like Honda City hybrid 1.5NA
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post Jun 10 2025, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Jun 10 2025, 08:48 AM)
UMW Toyol_ta
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Sime Darby decision already any new launch by P2 or Toyota.
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QUOTE(soul78 @ Jun 10 2025, 08:53 AM)
in 2025 , entry level car must be at least 210nm....

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If build under Daihatsu platform, then max140Nm cos D-CVT rated till 150Nm only.
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 10 2025, 10:37 AM)
Camry hybrid is 2.5L wor. not meant for Vios

so this one same like Honda City hybrid 1.5NA
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some ppl sohai sohai think diff seg can just drop that powerplant in.
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QUOTE(noien @ Jun 10 2025, 08:59 AM)
Vios already 100k.
Hybrid another top up ?
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at this price dont think its competitive enough.unless for the die hard toyota brand.

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QUOTE(ralfvi @ Jun 10 2025, 12:07 PM)
at this price dont think its competitive enough.unless for the die hard toyota brand.
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Yup. Pay more than 100k for b segment
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 10 2025, 09:30 AM)
power!!!

will happily trade in my X50 turbo for this.

Sime Darby faster bring this car, want see berapa ringgit
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Malaysia’s B-segment : G spec RM130k. Many features will be missing. whistling.gif

Forecast to be launched end of the year.
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jun 10 2025, 12:23 PM)
Malaysia’s B-segment : G spec RM130k. Many features will be missing. whistling.gif

Forecast to be launched end of the year.
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rm130k cannot la

down low a bit can get Mazda 3 1.5 rm119k
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 10 2025, 12:26 PM)
rm130k cannot la

down low a bit can get Mazda 3 1.5 rm119k
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Mazda!? doh.gif

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QUOTE(MGM @ Jun 10 2025, 09:05 AM)
Without ron95 subsidy, govt should give tax incentives for hybrids n with the onslaught of China hybrids we should get them <70k.

AI Overview
The most affordable plug-in hybrid (PHEV) car in China is the Wuling Starlight, followed by the Shangong Qan A5. Both of these are popular choices in the Chinese market due to their lower price points and increasing popularity of hybrid vehicles.
Here's a more detailed look at why they're popular:
Affordability:
The Wuling Starlight is known as the most affordable PHEV in China, with a starting price around $10,880. This makes it accessible to a wider range of buyers compared to traditional gasoline cars and even some other hybrid options.
Government Incentives:
The Chinese government has been promoting the adoption of new energy vehicles (NEVs) like PHEVs through various incentives, including tax cuts and subsidies.
Rising Demand:
There's a growing demand for hybrid vehicles in China, driven by factors like fuel efficiency, environmental concerns, and the potential for long-term savings.
BYD's Dominance:
While Wuling and Shangong are affordable, BYD is also a major player in the hybrid and electric vehicle market in China, with models like the Qin Plus and Seal 06. BYD's popularity is also linked to its affordable prices and competitive technology, particularly in the plug-in hybrid segment.
Longer Range and Fuel Efficiency:
Many of the top-selling hybrid models offer longer driving ranges compared to traditional hybrid vehicles, which also contribute to their appeal. The Qin Plus and Seal 06, for example, can travel up to 2,100km on a single charge with a full tank of fuel.
Competition:
The Chinese automotive market is highly competitive, with numerous manufacturers offering a variety of hybrid and electric vehicles, including both local and international brands
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BYD hybrid comparably pariah, it doesn’t have a planetary gear to drive it at high speed. Many user complain suddenly speed loss at 110km/h drop to 50-60 like that. GWM punya better got something like toyolta punya gear system. But cannot complain la 70k rmb, just drive BYD like turtle la
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 10 2025, 10:37 AM)
Camry hybrid is 2.5L wor. not meant for Vios

so this one same like Honda City hybrid 1.5NA
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Its the generation of tech la
Civic 2.0 , city 1.5 , taiwan honda fit.
All using same generation.

Only toyota sohai giv camry new gen, diedie dun wan upgrade corolla cross n below
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QUOTE(lawliet88 @ Jun 10 2025, 12:43 PM)
Its the generation of tech la
Civic 2.0 , city 1.5  , taiwan honda fit.
All using same generation.

Only toyota sohai giv camry new gen, diedie dun wan upgrade corolla cross n below
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Corolla cross using old hybrid tech yet?
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Jun 10 2025, 08:37 AM)
The news say UMW is going to bring in the hybrid vios version to malaysia in year 2025, but due to some reason, they delay it to 2026.
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How is hybrid car, and toyota hybrid nowdays?
i saw some are cursing honda hybrid
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Toyota hybrid cars are the best in the market. Long lasting, fuel efficient and reliable.

No need to think, just buy
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Jun 10 2025, 12:45 PM)
Corolla cross using old hybrid tech yet?
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Abuden? The facelift cc is still the same powertrain n hybrid system as the pre-facelift.

So eventually cc, yc , vios hybrid all old tech
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Better than China made cars nod.gif
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I notice many China made cars frkm BYD to MG and Proton, their exteriors paint jobs feel like it's one or two coats missing? Am I the only on feeling it?
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 10 2025, 09:30 AM)
power!!!

will happily trade in my X50 turbo for this.

Sime Darby faster bring this car, want see berapa ringgit
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20/k / month, still pakai b segment car ka?
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Utilize e-cvt ?

Mean use sun gears and planetary gears instead of belt driven CVT?
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Jun 10 2025, 03:21 PM)
20/k / month, still pakai b segment car ka?
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I want buy motobodo now

Car not priority for me. At least for now
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130k for a B segment?

lol
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if can sell RM92k like I bought my honda city hybrid idcd back in 2018, i might consider buying this toyolta vios hybrid.

oh wai-
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Jun 10 2025, 04:04 PM)
if can sell RM92k like I bought my honda city hybrid idcd back in 2018, i might consider buying this toyolta vios hybrid.

oh wai-
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Hey, any problem with ur city hybrid.
Why i saw some are cursing them?
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Resell value got onot first?
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QUOTE(viktorherald @ Jun 10 2025, 05:41 PM)
Resell value got onot first?
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Why no resale value?
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Jun 10 2025, 04:55 PM)
Hey, any problem with ur city hybrid.
Why i saw some are cursing them?
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no problem on my end so far. clocked in 95,000km *touchwood*

but this 2nd gen honda hybrid i-dcd does have one issue though: the DCT dry gearbox failure, although the failure rate is very minimum.

root cause: frequent creeping during heavy traffic jem causing clutch pack to slip, akin to MT
another cause: DCT actuator oil never replace every 10,000km or 20,000km, depend on usage <-- this is not explicitly mentioned in Honda malaysia manual though. doh.gif

to drive this car need advanced knowledge, especially to understand DCT driving characteristics & hybrid battery system functions.

best if you can join malaysia honda city i-dcd hybrid FB group to learn & share knowledge together.

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QUOTE(Zhik @ Jun 10 2025, 07:22 PM)
Why no resale value?
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I mean dunno got or not
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QUOTE(bigmac999 @ Jun 10 2025, 03:44 PM)
130k for a B segment?

lol
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Cannot be 130k la, else die like Nissan kick epower.
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Jun 10 2025, 08:00 PM)
no problem on my end so far. clocked in 95,000km *touchwood*

but this 2nd gen honda hybrid i-dcd does have one issue though: the DCT dry gearbox failure, although the failure rate is very minimum.

root cause: frequent creeping during heavy traffic jem causing clutch pack to slip, akin to MT
another cause: DCT actuator oil never replace every 10,000km or 20,000km, depend on usage <-- this is not explicitly mentioned in Honda malaysia manual though.  doh.gif

to drive this car need advanced knowledge, especially to understand DCT driving characteristics & hybrid battery system functions.

best if you can join malaysia honda city i-dcd hybrid FB group to learn & share knowledge together.
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I have come across the actuator issue before.
This condition is so common in overseas . And usually easily diagnosed via the engine sound.
and this does broke the gb?
Still enjoying my old 1st gen gm6.
ayam still havent found any reason to change car yet. LOL.

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jun 10 2025, 08:46 AM)
When vios hybrid masuk Malaysia, many features will be lost, dulu, kini & selama nya!
#ApaMaluBossKu?
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tabiat UMW berzaman dan berkurun sama. Sales tak baik baru tambah balik sikit2
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Jun 10 2025, 08:21 PM)
I have come across the actuator issue before.
This condition is so common in overseas . And usually easily diagnosed via the engine sound.
and this does broke the gb?
Still enjoying my old 1st gen gm6.
ayam still havent found any reason to change car yet. LOL.
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will damage the gb as in will come out error saying: "Transmission Error. Please park at sideways" and you can only drive forward on max 1st gear with weird mechanical grinding noise, cannot reverse. doh.gif



 

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