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 Vivo X200 Ultra, Released Exclusively In China

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post Oct 5 2025, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 20 2025, 08:18 PM)
Wait few more day maybe will reach you.
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yeap, no need to keep refreshing, it's no use at all

Firmware rollout, especially large one or massive update, are rolled out in staged fashion.
this one is to prevent if the firmware is faulty, only small percentage of user affected, not all of them

Remember the Crowdstrike causing mass outage last year?

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post Oct 12 2025, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Oct 11 2025, 11:55 AM)
Yes, it's Honor, orange in colour. Thanks. Nowadays my memory is not so good. I will forget about something say early today, but later in the afternoon or tomorrow I will recall it.  rclxub.gif  Will check on the video quality of the original file later to see if it's much improved in quality compared to the one sent on Whatsapp which is really poor. As far as I recall, the picture and video quality of Honor phones is not very good.

I'm not sure about the earlier debate as it seems like a one-liner "100X zoon is useless" etc. without much context. So I don't really know what is the 'actual' message that is to be conveyed. Anyway, that's not too important since all that's important for me is the X300 Ultra.  biggrin.gif As far as I know, the X200 Pro and Ultra should be very good already since I regard my X90 Pro to be good already. The X200 Pro should be better than X90 Pro I presume.
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If you want to maintain the video quality, dont send over whatsapp, whatsapp re-compress everything you send because they want to save their sever storage and bandwidth
You use whatsapp for free, they have to pay for the storage and cpu processing

Google drive you can send HQ, original file, but not youtube.
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post Oct 12 2025, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Oct 11 2025, 10:24 AM)
I'm not sure what is the argument about between Azhar75 and Chongkiatz and don't understand the actual point Azhar75 is trying to make here. If I'm guessing, the X200 Ultra is said to be lousy when compared to competitors?

Anyway interesting discussion here so I'll add a little here. Regarding post-processing of photos after the image is taken by the phone, I have never done post-processing and will never be interested although I get to know people do that with Lightroom software about 20 years ago when cameras in smartphones during those days were in their infancy with outdated technology.

I don't know about the X200 versions but my X90 Pro has this Auto-adjustment feature whereby after a photo was taken by the phone, one can select the "Auto" feature and the phone will automatically adjust the image quality (exposure, brightness, contrast, highlights etc.) to produce the best image quality. There isn't any need for the user to manually adjust the brightness or contrast to improve the picture. This is specifically useful when the photo has poor image quality when taken in low light conditions. If the photo does not look bright enough, the 'Auto' feature will automatically make the image look brighter and clearer with better clarity. IN other words, it may be a cheap version of post-processing by using this Auto feature.

The image below shows the Auto feature of the X90 Pro where it will automatically adjust the settings to produce an improved picture quality when selected.

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I'm still waiting for the X300 Ultra with anticipation.  biggrin.gif
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Post processing aka lightroom is for professional photographer, that, you know, their high-end camera probably not equipped with processing capabilities, or just minimal,
after they extracted the photo, they will need to do post-processing with software with PC, to resize, remove grains, dirt, remove unwanted objects, corrections, blabla
i know a bit because i used to be book scanner, HQ raw scanned image can be as large as 500MB, original not processed image look like turd lol

with the rise of the smart phone with quality camera and lens, plus the powerful Soc and software,
everything you do is hardware/AI assisted, post-processing is probably not needed with smartphone photography for amateurs.

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post Oct 13 2025, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Oct 13 2025, 05:27 PM)
Nowaday phone getting better sensor + better SoC , hence it request less "Processing" and can make the photo looking more and more better , in old day , sensor not that good and lot of china company will doing heavily processing in the backgound , that make the output look overly "FAKE"

PP is like girl make up & plastic surgery , it can be look bad & good depend on the person skill , like u choose which company have your liking about the processing output , some might like xiaomi leica output , some like Oppo Hasselblad output , quite depend on personal reference instead of which company is "bad".  Macam iphone is totally look "RAW" and u need spend sometime to PP the photo to look better  laugh.gif
vivo VIVID mode straight out of camera isnt natural , it do add some contract / brightness / saturation , to look the picture POP , suitable for people who just want point , shoot , and share to social media without headache editing , but some ppl might find it's too contrast but some ppl might like , really depend on situation , because no any mode can fit all , like professional camera man also need doing testing and tuning for different scene and lightning.  biggrin.gif 
Besides subject & composition , "moment"  also very important , because once u miss the moment, then hardly to get 2nd shoot  laugh.gif  Enjoy shooting  icon_rolleyes.gif
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No matter what brand, apple or Samsung and rest of the android phones,
their main selling point is can take life-like, vivid photo, upload to insta IN REAL TIME
now even better than ai-enhanced feature like remove unwanted item, more filtering, ect. without the need of separate PC and software for post-processing
Capable laptop already cost thousand dollar, Lightroom/PS is piece of software that, require professional knowledge to use it, has high learning curve.

So what, do people really expect average joe to buy a phone, take photo, upload to PC and start Photoshopping? sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
That's for DIY or professional with DSLR, the mass need simple stuff with just touch of the slider.
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post Nov 1 2025, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(FrostZero @ Oct 30 2025, 06:57 PM)
Was gonna get the x300 pro cn set, but saw Vivo Malaysia start teasing the global set. Saw some rumor saying the Malaysia set will be around RM4.8k for 16/512GB (CN model at 3.9k according to fastech). Want to ask is the additional cost of nearly RM1k worth it to get global/Malaysia set vs cheaper CN set?
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If you don't care about warranty and network support, you can pretty much ignore this post sweat.gif
CN set may not support 4G and 5G carrier aggregation, meaning your phone can't make full use of the Malaysia network and international network, your internet speed might be slower than international set.
Warranty will be another headache.

Info copied from official website, Blue is global, green is CN, most CN set generally support more TD-LTE and less FDD-LTE
4G FDD-LTE
B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B18/B19/B20/B25/B26/B28/B32/B66/B71

B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B18/B19/B20/B25/B26/B28A/B66
4G TD-LTE
B34/B38/B39/B40/B41/B42

B34/B38/B39/B40/B41/B42/B43/B48
5G
n1/n2/n3/n5/n7/n8/n20/n25/n26/n28/n38/n40/n41/n66/n71/n75/n77/n78/n79

n1/n2/n3/n5/n7/n8/n18/n20/n25/n26/n28A/n66/n34/n38/n39/n40/n41/n48/n77/n78/n79

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post Nov 1 2025, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(FrostZero @ Nov 1 2025, 05:41 PM)
Well I don't care about the warranty part, but a phone with network problem will be a deal breaker. Guess I should just spend the extra rm1k for malaysia set instead of taking risk and face all those problem.
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My old phone, op 11G, with proper network condition, can reach 1Gbps in Singapore, it's just speed test but it shows you the theoretical speed that 5G can achieve.
I believe it was 3 bands carrier aggregation .

Newer phone with 5G can support up to 3 even 4 bands CA, to reach higher peak transfer rate.
but most likely only achievable in city area.
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post Nov 9 2025, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Nov 7 2025, 04:00 PM)
Right, I have some time now so have included some comparisons taken from the YouTube video above. I have picked few photos which look noticeably different, no videos obviously.

In this photo below, the text on the garbage bin between the Oppo and Vivo look quite different as if they are not the same. Weird! On the Oppo it looks like there is a rectangular box around  the text. Can someone explain why the text looks so different between the two? 
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The blurry photo on the oppo, looks like the AI trying to recover the details but failed miserably, due to not image enough data.
It looks like early model of waifu2x. living dino should know what am i talking about lol

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post Nov 10 2025, 07:35 AM

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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Nov 10 2025, 07:18 AM)
Thanks for this. I should have guessed so earlier. In other words it's digital 'post-processing' that's badly implemented. Not too sure if I understand the comment on 'early model of waifu2x' though if it is referring to the looks of the Oppo, I do feel the camera module made the phone looks cheap and ugly in comparison to the Vivo with the symmetrical round piece housing the cameras at the back. I have always preferred phones which have a symmetrical layout of the cameras and not those which have lopsided ones with a slight protrusion from the body of the phone, indicating a small sensor. I don't mind phones which come with a reasonably thicker protrusion to house larger sensors of the cameras.

I hope the Vivo X300 Ultra will have an upgraded camera performance from the X300 Pro.
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before the inception of Ai, we used CNN upscaler with Nvidia accelerator
It's called waifu2x, some professional photo editor also offer this feature
Now you can upscale within your phone using the Ai engine

But it will only work if the photo has enough details to be upscaled,
The blurry photo captured and upscaled by oppo is due to Ai failed to guess the details, thus the image look kind of bizarre
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post Nov 10 2025, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Nov 10 2025, 09:27 AM)
i think is user error that blurry photo...

i have not seen such bad x9p sample... best to look at more comparison and example

v is using the better sensors that is for sure...
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If you look at the last photo that zoomed in, the Shrewsbury logo looked the same blurry as first photo of rubbish chute
Unless someone feedback to oppo and oppo provided an update.
Zoomed photo will look like blurry mess until fixes has been applied

 

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