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Macha FBI says CCP : root of Fentanyl 2 kill .....
Macha FBI says CCP : root of Fentanyl 2 kill .....
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as usual india salah china
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How come only US have fentanyl issue? Other countries no issue also. Sendiri enforcement lembik. Fentanyl is just a tool for medicine, not to be abused by americunts.
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Jun 8 2025, 09:23 AM) How come only US have fentanyl issue? Other countries no issue also. Sendiri enforcement lembik. Fentanyl is just a tool for medicine, not to be abused by americunts. Jangan soal their freedom to isap ketum, it's their rights l. |
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same old pattern, always spin and spin to blame others
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Before there was Fentanyl there was already cocaine, heroin, methamphetamines and marijuana. Guess which country also consumed these in the largest amounts in the world. ![]() ![]() The United States makes up 4.4% of the world's population, and consumes over 80% of the world's opioids. They have a Federal Agency that actually cultivates drug production and distribution in places all over the world. They killed their own citizens that tried to stop their drug business. ![]() ![]() The moment the Taliban took back Afghanistan from the American drug traffickers, Opium production dropped to insignificance, and Afghanistan once again will become net food exporters, something they were before the Americans invaded them. ![]() ![]() ![]() But just blame Mexico, Colombia, Myanmar, China, India and Canada instead..... And since they're at "war" with China at the moment, let's just say it is China's secret, hidden plan to undermine America, with fuk-all proof. American fools will believe anything. thesoothsayer, yhtan, and 8 others liked this post
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 8 2025, 10:30 AM) Before there was Fentanyl there was already cocaine, heroin, methamphetamines and marijuana. Guess which country also consumed these in the largest amounts in the world. actually China govt did tell them to stop producing all those crops and turn to grain production. China did provide them with seeds aid. China just want to avoid these drugs going into their border. China did alot to help Afghanistan, even try to tell them to allow women to have education, but the religion being the religion in the tablibans, it went back to the cave![]() ![]() The United States makes up 4.4% of the world's population, and consumes over 80% of the world's opioids. They have a Federal Agency that actually cultivates drug production and distribution in places all over the world. They killed their own citizens that tried to stop their drug business. ![]() ![]() The moment the Taliban took back Afghanistan from the American drug traffickers, Opium production dropped to insignificance, and Afghanistan once again will become net food exporters, something they were before the Americans invaded them. ![]() ![]() ![]() But just blame Mexico, Colombia, Myanmar, China, India and Canada instead..... And since they're at "war" with China at the moment, let's just say it is China's secret, hidden plan to undermine America, with fuk-all proof. American fools will believe anything. |
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Fentalyn dah mula masuk sini.. Anak anak muda kito da mula hisal lurkingaround liked this post
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Later Fentanyl comes to bolehland and all sino lickers children kena zombified. Then only sino licker cry observ and lurkingaround liked this post
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Blaming CCP for the fentanyl precursor, is like blaming CCP steel for the gun problem.
TOPKEK AMDK logic Precursors are the raw materials or intermediate chemicals used in the multi-step process of synthesizing a target molecule, like a medicine, plastic, or fertilizer. It is the basic material that used to make into many other products. CCP is selling to the whole world. Why only US has fentanyl problem? This post has been edited by jibpek: Jun 8 2025, 10:49 AM |
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QUOTE(Nihonmaru @ Jun 8 2025, 10:43 AM) Later Fentanyl comes to bolehland and all sino lickers children kena zombified. Then only sino licker cry It's already here. It's one of opiods used in Malaysia hospitals for pain management, source:MOH. Orang guna fentanyl for medical purpose. Muricunts abuse it to get high.This post has been edited by ZeaXG: Jun 8 2025, 10:53 AM |
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Real AMDK zombies are shouting tho, lol.
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bharat saying china precursor bad, but bharat also buying them, if not their pharma industry already collapse
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oredi say, got exp from perang candu. lol. stupiak US. by introducing woke and drugs, US become pariah soon. elong musky also kena liao.
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Hmmm....the root cause is either america has no law to regulate illegal drugs or law enforcement agencies goyang telur.
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never blame the hand that feeds when sendiri dunno dosage
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Janji salah orang lain. Easier to point fingers than to do something bout it
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Jun 8 2025, 09:23 AM) How come only US have fentanyl issue? Other countries no issue also. Sendiri enforcement lembik. Fentanyl is just a tool for medicine, not to be abused by americunts. because USA is China's targetnot other countries Slowpokeking and HasukiiXrd liked this post
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Fentanyl crisis roots in Opiod crisis in US. When normies got hooked they substitute with heroin and fentanyl which is cheaper than over the counter painkillers. Pharma big money pay themselves out of legal responsibility. Then you have CCP turning a blind eye to the precursor issues. Not just Fentanyl they also corner Meth market. End of the day if the drug problem doesn't cause any inconveniences to CCP, they won't do anything about it. Comes to think of it this is CCP modern version of opium wars. lurkingaround liked this post
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Jun 8 2025, 11:38 AM) More likely sendiri enforcement agency corrupt and incompetent compared to other countries. Also US has a drug addiction culture. See Elon Musk. Drug addict crying why nobody stop him from buying drugs lmao. This post has been edited by ZeaXG: Jun 8 2025, 11:52 AM |
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Jun 8 2025, 11:49 AM) More likely sendiri enforcement agency corrupt and incompetent compared to other countries. last time british give drugs to chinaAlso US has a drug addiction culture. See Elon Musk. Drug addict crying why nobody stop him from buying drugs lmao. now its china turn on usa history repeats many times |
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Jun 8 2025, 11:56 AM) Did China bring its navy to California shores force Muricunts to buy? Literally no one threaten them to hisap by gunpoint to the head.This post has been edited by ZeaXG: Jun 8 2025, 11:58 AM |
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Jun 8 2025, 09:23 AM) How come only US have fentanyl issue? Other countries no issue also. Sendiri enforcement lembik. Fentanyl is just a tool for medicine, not to be abused by americunts. Other countries including Msia got fentanyl problems.Malaysia lacks statistics on fatal drug overdoses specifically as to which drug. |
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I want to try it. Where to get?
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Jun 8 2025, 12:09 PM) Malaysia’s sewage reveals hidden drug labs with fentanyl traces detected.International drug syndicates are now using Malaysia as a transit route and potential target market for fentanyl. National Anti-Drugs Agency (Nada) director-general Datuk Ruslin Jusoh said the abuse of the so-called "zombie drug" in Malaysia is edging closer to becoming a new national threat. https://www.nst.com.my/news/crime-courts/20...d-transit-route lurkingaround liked this post
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jun 8 2025, 12:26 PM) Malaysia’s sewage reveals hidden drug labs with fentanyl traces detected. then there should be a lot of abuses in Malaysia... since we are one of the transit route/hub before reaching the final destination like America. International drug syndicates are now using Malaysia as a transit route and potential target market for fentanyl. National Anti-Drugs Agency (Nada) director-general Datuk Ruslin Jusoh said the abuse of the so-called "zombie drug" in Malaysia is edging closer to becoming a new national threat. https://www.nst.com.my/news/crime-courts/20...d-transit-route surprised gov of malaysia din't make a hell of lotsa noise about these abuses like USA does. |
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CIA, high and drugs, berpisah tiada
Opiates - blame afghanistan, Taliban Cocaine - blame mexico, south america Fentanyl - blame China Apalagi mau blame? |
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Last time British manufactured opium in india to ship to China … now China ship fentanyl to US … table turned …
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Jun 8 2025, 09:23 AM) How come only US have fentanyl issue? Other countries no issue also. Sendiri enforcement lembik. Fentanyl is just a tool for medicine, not to be abused by americunts. QUOTE(Viper236 @ Jun 8 2025, 09:27 AM) QUOTE(jibpek @ Jun 8 2025, 10:44 AM) Blaming CCP for the fentanyl precursor, is like blaming CCP steel for the gun problem. TOPKEK AMDK logic Precursors are the raw materials or intermediate chemicals used in the multi-step process of synthesizing a target molecule, like a medicine, plastic, or fertilizer. It is the basic material that used to make into many other products. CCP is selling to the whole world. Why only US has fentanyl problem? QUOTE(@@@@@@@@@@ @ Jun 8 2025, 10:59 AM) Hmmm....the root cause is either america has no law to regulate illegal drugs or law enforcement agencies goyang telur. .More like no law enforcement by CCP China (= close one eye) and CCP collusion with Mexican drug cartels, in order for CCP China to make more $$$$/money from illegal drugs being smuggled and sold in USA, ....... https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg93nn1e6go - How does fentanyl get into the US? 4 March 2025 .... China is the main source of fentanyl chemicals In 2019, China classified fentanyl as a controlled narcotic and later added some of the chemicals used to make it to the list. Despite this, the trade in other chemicals involved in the manufacturing of fentanyl - some of which can have legitimate purposes - remain uncontrolled, as those involved in the trade find new ways to evade the law. A review of several US indictments, which include details of undercover agents communicating with Chinese manufacturers, suggests that some chemical companies in China have been selling chemicals - including controlled ones - in the knowledge that they are intended to make fentanyl. Dozens of indictments reviewed by BBC Verify detail instances where Chinese manufacturers have provided instructions on how to make fentanyl from products they sell, through encrypted platforms and cryptocurrency payments. "So you have these massive loopholes where criminals engage in selling legal products, but they knowingly sell them to criminal entities," says Vanda Felbab-Brown, senior fellow in foreign policy at the Brookings Institute. In a statement, China said it had some of the strictest drugs laws in the world and had conducted joint operations with the US in the past. "The US needs to view and solve its own fentanyl issue," it said. ... = CCP China is two-faced or "cakap tak serupa bikin", ie the CCP tells the world 1 thing (for the CCP to 'have face') but does the opposite (that the CCP will 'no face' if found out). . Remember, CCP China and communist North Korea have even hired hackers to hack Western and Japanese companies, eg for ransomware payments of US$ millions in cryptocurrency, to steal technology and trade secrets, to spy on Western government officials, etc . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jun 8 2025, 04:05 PM |
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jun 8 2025, 01:18 PM) Last time British manufactured opium in india to ship to China … now China ship fentanyl to US … table turned … .No lah. Table turned only if CCP China ship the US-bound fentanyl to the British. Why blame USA for what the British Colonial Empire did to Imperial China.? . Hobbez liked this post
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QUOTE(heaven @ Jun 8 2025, 04:07 PM) .Fyi, there are very few drug addicts in CCP China because a communist society where everyone is monitored/tracked or spied on by the CCP, leaves no room for Chinese secret societies or Chinese Triad gangsters and drug pushers to operate. ....... In fact, CCP China has become the BIGGEST Chinese "secret society" or Chinese "Triad gangsters and drug pushers" in the world, compared to the Mexican drug cartels, Mafia and MS-13 Hispanic gangsters in USA, Chinese Triad gangsters in US Chinatowns, Taiwan, HK/Macau, Singapore, Malaysia; Indian Triad gangsters in Malaysia, the Yakuza in Japan, etc. Seems the above Youtuber is pushing USA to change to become communist like CCP China, in order to win the War on Drugs. Should Malaysia do the same, ie become communist to "cure" its drug addicts problem.? . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jun 8 2025, 04:34 PM |
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 8 2025, 04:11 PM) . USA majority = anglo saxonNo lah. Table turned only if CCP China ship the US-bound fentanyl to the British. Why blame USA for what the British Colonial Empire did to Imperial China.? . British = Anglo saxon Karma is real. ZeaXG liked this post
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Fentanyl is China's fart to USA for supporting 1989 Tiananmen & 2019 HK.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 8 2025, 04:30 PM) . Deswai they export their crooks to other countries like Myanmar, Cambodia, Laos, even Philippines, Japan, etc....and also Malaysia.Fyi, there are very few drug addicts in CCP China because a communist society where everyone is monitored/tracked or spied on by the CCP, leaves no room for Chinese secret societies or Chinese Triad gangsters and drug pushers to operate. ....... In fact, CCP China has become the BIGGEST Chinese "secret society" or Chinese "Triad gangsters and drug pushers" in the world, compared to the Mexican drug cartels, Mafia and MS-13 Hispanic gangsters in USA, Chinese Triad gangsters in US Chinatowns, Taiwan, HK/Macau, Singapore, Malaysia; Indian Triad gangsters in Malaysia, the Yakuza in Japan, etc. . |
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jun 8 2025, 04:11 PM) . No lah. Table turned only if CCP China ship the US-bound fentanyl to the British. Why blame USA for what the British Colonial Empire did to Imperial China.? . QUOTE(@@@@@@@@@@ @ Jun 8 2025, 04:33 PM) .Isn't this racism against White Anglo saxon, ie stereotyping.? Why not target Western Europe = majority Anglosaxon, with fentanyl as well.? . |
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Jun 8 2025, 04:34 PM) Deswai they export their crooks to other countries like Myanmar, Cambodia, Laos, even Philippines, Japan, etc....and also Malaysia. wow... all the people in these countries: Myanmar, Cambodia, Laos, even Philippines, Japan, etc....and also Malaysia...are so so disiplined and professional... didn't abuse the chem at all... just send it onwards to usa... lol |
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jun 8 2025, 04:30 PM) . Fyi, there are very few drug addicts in CCP China because a communist society where everyone is monitored/tracked or spied on by the CCP, leaves no room for Chinese secret societies or Chinese Triad gangsters and drug pushers to operate. ....... In fact, CCP China has become the BIGGEST Chinese "secret society" or Chinese "Triad gangsters and drug pushers" in the world, compared to the Mexican drug cartels, Mafia and MS-13 Hispanic gangsters in USA, Chinese Triad gangsters in US Chinatowns, Taiwan, HK/Macau, Singapore, Malaysia; Indian Triad gangsters in Malaysia, the Yakuza in Japan, etc. Seems the above Youtuber is pushing USA to change to become communist like CCP China, in order to win the War on Drugs. Should Malaysia do the same, ie become communist to "cure" its drug addicts problem.? . QUOTE(Hobbez @ Jun 8 2025, 04:34 PM) Deswai they export their crooks to other countries like Myanmar, Cambodia, Laos, even Philippines, Japan, etc....and also Malaysia. .Notice that Triad gangs are very rich from their illegal businesses. Same for the CCP China "gang". . |
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 8 2025, 03:59 PM) . Those precursors are sold by many other countries, only that CCP one is cheaper and of higher quality. If they don't sell, someone else will. Just like asking CCP to stop selling steel to address their gun issue, you think that will work?More like no law enforcement by CCP China (= close one eye) and CCP collusion with Mexican drug cartels, in order for CCP China to make more $$$$/money from illegal drugs being smuggled and sold in USA, ....... https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg93nn1e6go - How does fentanyl get into the US? 4 March 2025 .... China is the main source of fentanyl chemicals In 2019, China classified fentanyl as a controlled narcotic and later added some of the chemicals used to make it to the list. Despite this, the trade in other chemicals involved in the manufacturing of fentanyl - some of which can have legitimate purposes - remain uncontrolled, as those involved in the trade find new ways to evade the law. A review of several US indictments, which include details of undercover agents communicating with Chinese manufacturers, suggests that some chemical companies in China have been selling chemicals - including controlled ones - in the knowledge that they are intended to make fentanyl. Dozens of indictments reviewed by BBC Verify detail instances where Chinese manufacturers have provided instructions on how to make fentanyl from products they sell, through encrypted platforms and cryptocurrency payments. "So you have these massive loopholes where criminals engage in selling legal products, but they knowingly sell them to criminal entities," says Vanda Felbab-Brown, senior fellow in foreign policy at the Brookings Institute. In a statement, China said it had some of the strictest drugs laws in the world and had conducted joint operations with the US in the past. "The US needs to view and solve its own fentanyl issue," it said. ... = CCP China is two-faced or "cakap tak serupa bikin", ie the CCP tells the world 1 thing (for the CCP to 'have face') but does the opposite (that the CCP will 'no face' if found out). . Remember, CCP China and communist North Korea have even hired hackers to hack Western and Japanese companies, eg for ransomware payments of US$ millions in cryptocurrency, to steal technology and trade secrets, to spy on Western government officials, etc . The process of making fentanyl is well documented in scientific literatures. No need CCP to teach them. |
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QUOTE((Wedchar2912 @ Jun 8 2025, 12:30 PM) then there should be a lot of abuses in Malaysia... since we are one of the transit route/hub before reaching the final destination like America. surprised gov of malaysia din't make a hell of lotsa noise about these abuses like USA does. QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jun 8 2025, 03:59 PM) . More like no law enforcement by CCP China (= close one eye) and CCP collusion with Mexican drug cartels, in order for CCP China to make more $$$$/money from illegal drugs being smuggled and sold in USA, ....... https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg93nn1e6go - How does fentanyl get into the US? 4 March 2025 .... China is the main source of fentanyl chemicals In 2019, China classified fentanyl as a controlled narcotic and later added some of the chemicals used to make it to the list. Despite this, the trade in other chemicals involved in the manufacturing of fentanyl - some of which can have legitimate purposes - remain uncontrolled, as those involved in the trade find new ways to evade the law. A review of several US indictments, which include details of undercover agents communicating with Chinese manufacturers, suggests that some chemical companies in China have been selling chemicals - including controlled ones - in the knowledge that they are intended to make fentanyl. Dozens of indictments reviewed by BBC Verify detail instances where Chinese manufacturers have provided instructions on how to make fentanyl from products they sell, through encrypted platforms and cryptocurrency payments. "So you have these massive loopholes where criminals engage in selling legal products, but they knowingly sell them to criminal entities," says Vanda Felbab-Brown, senior fellow in foreign policy at the Brookings Institute. In a statement, China said it had some of the strictest drugs laws in the world and had conducted joint operations with the US in the past. "The US needs to view and solve its own fentanyl issue," it said. ... = CCP China is two-faced or "cakap tak serupa bikin", ie the CCP tells the world 1 thing (for the CCP to 'have face') but does the opposite (that the CCP will 'no face' if found out). . Remember, CCP China and communist North Korea have even hired hackers to hack Western and Japanese companies, eg for ransomware payments of US$ millions in cryptocurrency, to steal technology and trade secrets, to spy on Western government officials, etc . QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jun 8 2025, 04:40 PM) wow... all the people in these countries: Myanmar, Cambodia, Laos, even Philippines, Japan, etc....and also Malaysia... .are so so disiplined and professional... didn't abuse the chem at all... just send it onwards to usa... lol Also from my above BBC news link, ie Malaysia is just a transit smuggling point for the Mexican drug cartels for their US-bound fentanyl. IOW, the transhipped chemicals to manufacture fentanyl found in Malaysia were not intended to be pushed/sold to Malaysians, ....... .... According to the US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA), Mexican criminal organisations - including the Sinaloa Cartel - play a key role in producing and delivering fentanyl, methamphetamine and other illicit drugs into the US. The chemicals used to make fentanyl are sourced from China by traffickers and turned into the finished product in labs in Mexico before being smuggled into the US. According to the DEA, the Sinaloa Cartel uses a variety of tactics to conceal shipments coming into Mexico, such as hiding the chemicals among legitimate commercial goods, mislabelling the containers, using front companies, and shipping through third party countries. ... . |
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jun 8 2025, 04:40 PM) wow... all the people in these countries: Myanmar, Cambodia, Laos, even Philippines, Japan, etc....and also Malaysia... I'm talking about all those scam centers lah and all kinds of crooks like the CCP spy who even became a mayor in the Philippines.are so so disiplined and professional... didn't abuse the chem at all... just send it onwards to usa... lol |
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QUOTE(jibpek @ Jun 8 2025, 04:46 PM) Those precursors are sold by many other countries, only that CCP one is cheaper and of higher quality. If they don't sell, someone else will. Just like asking CCP to stop selling steel to address their gun issue, you think that will work? .The process of making fentanyl is well documented in scientific literatures. No need CCP to teach them. CCP China has the law enforcement ability to not sell those precursors to Mexican drug cartels, similar to its ability to restrict exports of critical minerals like rare earth devices to certain entities or countries. Seem like the criminal CCP China likes to act dumb when it comes to money or profit$ from selling those precursors and the foreigners, esp gwai lows, being killed by those precursors. . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jun 8 2025, 05:01 PM |
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Surely CCP can blame all western forces that brought opium to mainland China ages ago... can they??
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 8 2025, 04:57 PM) . It's not for profit. I do believe they have an agenda to weaken a nation thru the use of addictive substances or technologies. Look at TikTok and how it is a major impact to destabilize our own country. Tell me TikTok don't have an impact on the shit we have to deal with now. CCP China has the law enforcement ability to not sell those precursors to Mexican drug cartels, similar to its ability to restrict exports of critical minerals like rare earth devices to certain entities or countries. Seem like the criminal CCP China likes to act dumb when it comes to money or profit$ from selling those precursors. . Someday I do hope these sino lickers get the enlightenment to see what damage their great master caused to the world. lurkingaround, observ, and 1 other liked this post
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sendiri opioids abuse, blame the one that selling raw material which got other use
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QUOTE(vassilius @ Jun 8 2025, 05:03 PM) Surely CCP can blame all western forces that brought opium to mainland China ages ago... can they?? They sure is upgrading their incompetency currently.Mamage your own incompetency FFS... QUOTE(ernie ball @ Jun 8 2025, 05:03 PM) It's not for profit. I do believe they have an agenda to weaken a nation thru the use of addictive substances or technologies. Look at TikTok and how it is a major impact to destabilize our own country. Tell me TikTok don't have an impact on the shit we have to deal with now. Someday I do hope these AMDK lickers get the enlightenment to see what damage their great master caused to the world.Someday I do hope these sino lickers get the enlightenment to see what damage their great master caused to the world. pornoman2128 liked this post
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QUOTE(ernie ball @ Jun 8 2025, 05:03 PM) It's not for profit. I do believe they have an agenda to weaken a nation thru the use of addictive substances or technologies. Look at TikTok and how it is a major impact to destabilize our own country. Tell me TikTok don't have an impact on the shit we have to deal with now. Could be too late for that though..... Someday I do hope these sino lickers get the enlightenment to see what damage their great master caused to the world. |
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jun 8 2025, 05:16 PM) u r at war with whom ? china or america or singapore or malaysia or with the world behind your keyboard? haha lurkingaround liked this post
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Jun 8 2025, 05:17 PM) then I am looking forward to witnessing this war you are talking about... can forward some articles to illustrate the war situation now? btw, what kind of war is it? Did USA get approval from its congress for this war? Fentanyl abuse... seems to be a lost cause for USA, using your weird definition of a war. haha |
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QUOTE(heaven @ Jun 8 2025, 05:23 PM) US is at war with the China, no holds barred. They will do anything it takes. Why you all so scared? China will win this lah. "Asymmetrical Warfare", yes including inciting China hate in forum too. And then people wonder why the world getting darker..... You have a mistaken username by the way. This post has been edited by Hobbez: Jun 8 2025, 05:26 PM |
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butthurt much? talk somemore no more rare earth for India lor.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 8 2025, 04:57 PM) . If CCP not selling, mexican drug cartels can easily buy from others what.CCP China has the law enforcement ability to not sell those precursors to Mexican drug cartels, similar to its ability to restrict exports of critical minerals like rare earth devices to certain entities or countries. Seem like the criminal CCP China likes to act dumb when it comes to money or profit$ from selling those precursors and the foreigners, esp gwai lows, being killed by those precursors. . CCP is not the only producer of precursor. Only that it is cheaper and with higher quality. Got it? Even if CCP is the only producer in this world, those cartels can easily setup another company in other countries to buy from CCP. Since precursor is NOT ban everywhere. Don't know who is playing dump now. Since those precursors are sold to the entire world, why other countries do not have this issue, only US has? |
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QUOTE(heaven @ Jun 8 2025, 05:31 PM) If you can approve evil, then I dunno what that says about you lor. To each their own. lurkingaround liked this post
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Jun 8 2025, 10:23 AM) How come only US have fentanyl issue? Other countries no issue also. Sendiri enforcement lembik. Fentanyl is just a tool for medicine, not to be abused by americunts. Lol..Wan freedom ma...if blocked....sure riot..take away they sohai freedom and Salah xixipee again... 🤣 |
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A billionaire Indian was found guilty of bribing doctors to prescribe fentanyl.
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Jun 8 2025, 05:36 PM) Never said that, but you sure try to put those words in my mouth, just like every post you try to put words into other posters mouth. Wedchar2912 liked this post
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Jun 8 2025 @ 10:23 AM) How come only US have fentanyl issue? Other countries no issue also. Sendiri enforcement lembik. Fentanyl is just a tool for medicine, not to be abused by americunts. . Please see my answer above, ie because of the Mexican drug cartels and the liberal-Democrats-backed Open Borders in USA.. . |
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QUOTE((heaven @ Jun 8 2025, 04:07 PM) QUOTE(Hobbez @ Jun 8 2025, 05:36 PM) QUOTE(heaven @ Jun 8 2025, 05:41 PM) Never said that, but you sure try to put those words in my mouth, just like every post you try to put words into other posters mouth. .'heaven' posted the above Youtube video that absolves CCP China from blame for the US fentanyl crisis. . |
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 8 2025, 05:58 PM) . Dunno, I never watched it, but I only know the US is facing a civil war situation between Liberal Democrats and Conservative Republicans.'heaven' posted the above Youtube video that absolves CCP China from blame for the US fentanyl crisis. . The Liberal Democrats are focused on LGBT and bringing in all the Tom Dick and Harry, to eventually dissolve what the USA was. Globalism. So they are also very China friendly, since both have the same goals. |
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if knives can kill , don't use knives . use your hand to cut meat. this is exactly an idiot's argument. there is lots of biased idiots on this thread.
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 8 2025, 10:30 AM) Before there was Fentanyl there was already cocaine, heroin, methamphetamines and marijuana. Guess which country also consumed these in the largest amounts in the world. Surprise New Zealand such small country ![]() ![]() The United States makes up 4.4% of the world's population, and consumes over 80% of the world's opioids. They have a Federal Agency that actually cultivates drug production and distribution in places all over the world. They killed their own citizens that tried to stop their drug business. ![]() ![]() The moment the Taliban took back Afghanistan from the American drug traffickers, Opium production dropped to insignificance, and Afghanistan once again will become net food exporters, something they were before the Americans invaded them. ![]() ![]() ![]() But just blame Mexico, Colombia, Myanmar, China, India and Canada instead..... And since they're at "war" with China at the moment, let's just say it is China's secret, hidden plan to undermine America, with fuk-all proof. American fools will believe anything. But 3rd ranking.... |
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QUOTE(issac99289928 @ Jun 8 2025, 06:58 PM) if knives can kill , don't use knives . use your hand to cut meat. this is exactly an idiot's argument. there is lots of biased idiots on this thread. .Illegal drugs like fentanyl, heroin, cocaine, methamphetamine, etc are different, in that they are addictive and can eventually kill the drug addicts if abused, eg accidental overdose, dangerous delusions/hallucinations, etc.. Most drug addicts start young, eg in their teens or twenties, ie gullible folks who can easily be tricked by drug pushers into becoming drug addicts, eg through peer pressure, pop culture, escapism in dance clubs, etc. Rich and young US drug addicts are long term customers for the Mexican drug cartels = a captive market of repeat customers. ....... IOW, the market demand and supply situation for illegal drugs are not normal, like for knives, smartphones, computers, EV vs ICE-V cars, Nvidia GPUs, critical minerals, crypto-coins, shares, crude oil, gold, etc. So, apples and oranges or knives =/= fentanyl. . Personally, I support the legalization of addictive drugs because we can buy addictive coffee/tea and chocolate (= caffeine), cigarettes (= nicotine) and alcohol in many countries = more tax revenue for the government, instead of for the Mexican drug cartels and Triad gangs. . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jun 8 2025, 07:32 PM |
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 8 2025, 07:27 PM) . Good that China doesn't sell fentanyl then, only the raw materials that are also used to make medical pain killers. Illegal drugs like fentanyl, heroin, cocaine, methamphetamine, etc are different, in that they are addictive and can eventually kill the drug addicts if abused, eg accidental overdose, dangerous delusions/hallucinations, etc... I wonder what AMDKs are gonna say if China gets fed up and totally blocks precursors like it blocks Rare Earth from America, even to the point of no re-export. Something tells me they're not gonna express gratitude to China. |
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 8 2025, 10:30 AM) Before there was Fentanyl there was already cocaine, heroin, methamphetamines and marijuana. Guess which country also consumed these in the largest amounts in the world. I've been telling you guys for years, that U.S is the biggest sponsorship for terrorists group all around the world, they even train them.![]() ![]() The United States makes up 4.4% of the world's population, and consumes over 80% of the world's opioids. They have a Federal Agency that actually cultivates drug production and distribution in places all over the world. They killed their own citizens that tried to stop their drug business. ![]() ![]() The moment the Taliban took back Afghanistan from the American drug traffickers, Opium production dropped to insignificance, and Afghanistan once again will become net food exporters, something they were before the Americans invaded them. ![]() ![]() ![]() But just blame Mexico, Colombia, Myanmar, China, India and Canada instead..... And since they're at "war" with China at the moment, let's just say it is China's secret, hidden plan to undermine America, with fuk-all proof. American fools will believe anything. They even sponsor the biggest terrorist group there is: zionist. Look at Syria new leader Jalani, Al-Qaeda top leader with 10 million bounty on his head get promoted as Syria leader. Why is his bounty removed by CIA? Why didn't he get punished or thrown in jail? Why did he get promoted after US wasted trillions in war against terrorism? This post has been edited by smsid: Jun 8 2025, 07:40 PM |
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 8 2025, 10:30 AM) They have a Federal Agency that actually cultivates drug production and distribution in places all over the world. They killed their own citizens that tried to stop their drug business. .![]() ![]() And since they're at "war" with China at the moment, let's just say it is China's secret, hidden plan to undermine America, with fuk-all proof. American fools will believe anything. Another lie being spread by CCP China supporters, ....... https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sh...pecial/cia.html - Cocaine, Conspiracy Theories And The CIA In Central America ...One of the people who was accused in the San Jose Mercury-News of being in the midst of the CIA cocaine conspiracy is one of the most respected, now retired, veteran D.E.A. agents, Robert "Bobby" Nieves. "You have to understand Central America at that time was a haven for the conspiracy theorists. Christic Institute, people like Gary Webb, others down there, looking to dig up some story for political advantage," Nieves said. "No sexier story than to create the notion in people's minds that these people are drug traffickers." But in the weeks following publication, Webb's peers doubted the merit of the articles. Fellow journalists at the Washington Post, New York Times and Webb's own editor accused him of blowing a few truths up into a massive conspiracy. Amongst Webb's fundamental problems was his implication that the CIA lit the crack cocaine fuse. It was conspiracy theory: a neat presentation of reality that simply didn't jibe with real life. Webb later agreed in an interview that there is no hard evidence that the CIA as an institution or any of its agent-employees carried out or profited from drug trafficking. Still, the fantastic story of the CIA injecting crack into ghettos had taken hold. ... . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jun 8 2025, 07:50 PM |
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US ordered the chem to make the fentanyl from China n then manufacturer it locally. Then something happen n then blame other people that causing the issue.
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 8 2025, 07:35 PM) Good that China doesn't sell fentanyl then, only the raw materials that are also used to make medical pain killers. very sure America will be the first to beg China to produce the precursors/completed medical grade fentanyl. I wonder what AMDKs are gonna say if China gets fed up and totally blocks precursors like it blocks Rare Earth from America, even to the point of no re-export. Something tells me they're not gonna express gratitude to China. a while back, I chatted with a anesthesiologist casually. he said that fentanyl is a very effective and useful pain killer. and is used for serious cases. without it, they would need to use a lot of other pain killers.. not effective and may come with a lot of side effects. I guess this is why fentanyl is still being produced... its for real medical purposes... despite the vilification by the Western media and US government of the drug. yhtan and pornoman2128 liked this post
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QUOTE(soulknight @ Jun 8 2025, 07:51 PM) US ordered the chem to make the fentanyl from China n then manufacturer it locally. Then something happen n then blame other people that causing the issue. onshoring... now that makes a lot of sense... Trump did say it wants all the pharma manufacturing to return to america... haha pornoman2128 liked this post
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jun 8 2025, 08:06 PM) onshoring... now that makes a lot of sense... Trump did say it wants all the pharma manufacturing to return to america... haha He said he would create lots of jobs opportunities. But if bringing their manufacturing onshore, most of the manufacturer would goes for automation to reduce the operating cost. US labor cost and with the amount of red tapes that needed to be followed, would cause the product to be cost at a higher price. and the consumer would opt'ed to a much cheaper available options. Wedchar2912 liked this post
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 8 2025, 07:49 PM) . Believing that article is like believing the IDF when they said they investigated themselves and found no evidence of Genocide in Gaza. Only fools would believe them. And fools we were.....before the age of smartphones and social media. Another lie being spread by CCP China supporters, ....... https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sh...pecial/cia.html - Cocaine, Conspiracy Theories And The CIA In Central America ...One of the people who was accused in the San Jose Mercury-News of being in the midst of the CIA cocaine conspiracy is one of the most respected, now retired, veteran D.E.A. agents, Robert "Bobby" Nieves. "You have to understand Central America at that time was a haven for the conspiracy theorists. Christic Institute, people like Gary Webb, others down there, looking to dig up some story for political advantage," Nieves said. "No sexier story than to create the notion in people's minds that these people are drug traffickers." But in the weeks following publication, Webb's peers doubted the merit of the articles. Fellow journalists at the Washington Post, New York Times and Webb's own editor accused him of blowing a few truths up into a massive conspiracy. Amongst Webb's fundamental problems was his implication that the CIA lit the crack cocaine fuse. It was conspiracy theory: a neat presentation of reality that simply didn't jibe with real life. Webb later agreed in an interview that there is no hard evidence that the CIA as an institution or any of its agent-employees carried out or profited from drug trafficking. Still, the fantastic story of the CIA injecting crack into ghettos had taken hold. ... . From your article. "The CIA investigated themselves and found themselves innocent, and at worst, incompetent. ![]() Wedchar2912 liked this post
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jun 8 2025, 08:06 PM) onshoring... now that makes a lot of sense... Trump did say it wants all the pharma manufacturing to return to america... haha And since the US likes to brag about being the biggest consumer market that China can't do without, it makes triple sense that they should onshore fentanyl production since they are already the largest opiod consumer in the world. MADE IN AMERICA, FOR AMERICANS!!! Wedchar2912 liked this post
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Jun 8 2025, 08:59 PM
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Jun 8 2025, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jun 8 2025, 07:27 PM) . Illegal drugs like fentanyl, heroin, cocaine, methamphetamine, etc are different, in that they are addictive and can eventually kill the drug addicts if abused, eg accidental overdose, dangerous delusions/hallucinations, etc.. Most drug addicts start young, eg in their teens or twenties, ie gullible folks who can easily be tricked by drug pushers into becoming drug addicts, eg through peer pressure, pop culture, escapism in dance clubs, etc. Rich and young US drug addicts are long term customers for the Mexican drug cartels = a captive market of repeat customers. ....... IOW, the market demand and supply situation for illegal drugs are not normal, like for knives, smartphones, computers, EV vs ICE-V cars, Nvidia GPUs, critical minerals, crypto-coins, shares, crude oil, gold, etc. So, apples and oranges or knives =/= fentanyl. . Personally, I support the legalization of addictive drugs because we can buy addictive coffee/tea and chocolate (= caffeine), cigarettes (= nicotine) and alcohol in many countries = more tax revenue for the government, instead of for the Mexican drug cartels and Triad gangs. . QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 8 2025, 07:35 PM) Good that China doesn't sell fentanyl then, only the raw materials that are also used to make medical pain killers. If CCP China totally blocks precursors of fentanyl, I'm sure other countries will take up the slack, like how Apple Inc is now producing about 30% of its flagship iPhones in India, instead of 100% in CCP China previously, ie from about 2 years ago. Fyi, .......I wonder what AMDKs are gonna say if China gets fed up and totally blocks precursors like it blocks Rare Earth from America, even to the point of no re-export. Something tells me they're not gonna express gratitude to China. Gemini AI Overview Yes, global supply chains are increasingly diversifying away from China, though this shift is complex and ongoing. Several factors are driving this trend, including rising labor costs in China, geopolitical tensions, and a desire for more resilient supply chains. QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jun 8 2025, 08:02 PM) very sure America will be the first to beg China to produce the precursors/completed medical grade fentanyl. Fyi, morphine, derived from opium (the Britain-China Opium Wars in the 1800s), is also medically used as a powerful painkiller, though much less powerful than the synthetic opioid fentanyl. a while back, I chatted with a anesthesiologist casually. he said that fentanyl is a very effective and useful pain killer. and is used for serious cases. without it, they would need to use a lot of other pain killers.. not effective and may come with a lot of side effects. I guess this is why fentanyl is still being produced... its for real medical purposes... despite the vilification by the Western media and US government of the drug. ....... Methamphetamine is also used medically but to treat certain mental disorders. Similarly for the medical use of cocaine, marijuana/ganja (= cannabinoids), etc. The point is these medicines can be misused or abused, eg by Mexican drug cartels, Triad gangs, CCP China, etc to profit off gullible drug addicts, esp youths = victims, like the victim-scammers kidnapped to KK Park/Myawaddy. . |
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Jun 8 2025, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(soulknight @ Jun 8 2025, 07:51 PM) US ordered the chem to make the fentanyl from China n then manufacturer it locally. Then something happen n then blame other people that causing the issue. QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jun 8 2025, 08:06 PM) onshoring... now that makes a lot of sense... Trump did say it wants all the pharma manufacturing to return to america... haha .The difference is, doctor-prescribed fentanyl and other opioids and psychotropic drugs, like methamphetamine, cocaine, morphine/opium, etc, are strictly regulated by the US government in USA but not those same drugs smuggled into USA by the Mexican drug cartels. So, if fentanyl precursors are produced in USA, ....... . |
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 8 2025, 09:42 PM) If CCP China totally blocks precursors of fentanyl, I'm sure other countries will take up the slack, like how Apple Inc is now producing about 30% of its flagship iPhones in India, instead of 100% in CCP China previously, ie from about 2 years ago. Fyi, ....... So if India takes over precursor production, then it's Bharat's fault pulak for the zombies of America? Anyone but America's own fault, right?The point is these medicines can be misused or abused, eg by Mexican drug cartels, Triad gangs, CCP China, etc to profit off gullible drug addicts, esp youths = victims, like the victim-scammers kidnapped to KK Park/Myawaddy. . China makes steel, Mexico makes them into guns, American smuggle in these guns and shoots themselves in the head with them. Result? AMDKs: " China misusing their steel production to kill innocent Americans cos they want to war with us. They should know if Mexicans buy steel, it's because they'll only make guns for American to kill themselves with, so they gotta be more responsible and not sell steel to Mexican.... or Canadians now." Wedchar2912 liked this post
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Jun 9 2025, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jun 8 2025, 09:50 PM) . The difference is, doctor-prescribed fentanyl and other opioids and psychotropic drugs, like methamphetamine, cocaine, morphine/opium, etc, are strictly regulated by the US government in USA but not those same drugs smuggled into USA by the Mexican drug cartels. So, if fentanyl precursors are produced in USA, ....... . QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 8 2025, 10:16 PM) So if India takes over precursor production, then it's Bharat's fault pulak for the zombies of America? Anyone but America's own fault, right? .China makes steel, Mexico makes them into guns, American smuggle in these guns and shoots themselves in the head with them. Result? AMDKs: " China misusing their steel production to kill innocent Americans cos they want to war with us. They should know if Mexicans buy steel, it's because they'll only make guns for American to kill themselves with, so they gotta be more responsible and not sell steel to Mexican.... or Canadians now." Like democratic USA, democratic Bharat is less evil than communist China, ie Bharat would also strictly restrict the export of fentanyl precursors so that they won't end up in the hands of Mexican drug cartels and Triad gangs, unlike greedy CCP China today who sells them to everyone without much background checking or oversight. Are there many fentany/opioid deaths of drug addicts in Bharat.? . |
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sendiri bodo nak hisap sala orenlain...
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 8 2025, 10:16 PM) So if India takes over precursor production, then it's Bharat's fault pulak for the zombies of America? Anyone but America's own fault, right? .China makes steel, Mexico makes them into guns, American smuggle in these guns and shoots themselves in the head with them. Result? AMDKs: " China misusing their steel production to kill innocent Americans cos they want to war with us. They should know if Mexicans buy steel, it's because they'll only make guns for American to kill themselves with, so they gotta be more responsible and not sell steel to Mexican.... or Canadians now." No lah. Fyi, US citizens have the constitutional right to bear arms (eg they can buy guns) = most guns in USA are made-in-USA with US steel, not made-in-Mexico with CCP China steel. ![]() . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jun 9 2025, 02:30 PM |
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QUOTE(Avex @ Jun 8 2025, 10:37 AM) actually China govt did tell them to stop producing all those crops and turn to grain production. China did provide them with seeds aid. China just want to avoid these drugs going into their border. China did alot to help Afghanistan, even try to tell them to allow women to have education, but the religion being the religion in the tablibans, it went back to the cave nah nah nah you see you see. china wants to interfere in our country policies tell us what to do what not to do. what about our country sovereign rights? |
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Jun 9 2025, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 8 2025, 10:30 AM) The moment the Taliban took back Afghanistan from the American drug traffickers, Opium production dropped to insignificance, and Afghanistan once again will become net food exporters, something they were before the Americans invaded them. .![]() ![]() ![]() But just blame Mexico, Colombia, Myanmar, China, India and Canada instead..... And since they're at "war" with China at the moment, let's just say it is China's secret, hidden plan to undermine America, with fuk-all proof. American fools will believe anything. Again, CCP-lovers spreading misinformation or lies about USA being drug traffickers in Afghanistan, ....... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47861444 - How the US military's opium war in Afghanistan was lost 26 April 2019 The US has spent $1.5m (£1.15m) a day since 2001 fighting the opium war in Afghanistan. So why is business still booming? .... The video of this attack, in which eight Afghan civilians were killed, was one of a series published online by the American military - vivid evidence of the progress of a year-long bombing campaign code-named "Iron Tempest". The objective was to take out the heroin laboratories at the heart of the Taliban's $200m-a-year opium trade, and it was to involve some 200 similar strikes. But, according to new research from the London School of Economics, Operation Iron Tempest was not what it seemed. The study found that, despite excellent intelligence, the multi-million-dollar campaign was having a negligible effect on the Taliban and the drug trafficking networks in Afghanistan. ... = during US occupation of Afghanistan, it was the Taliban who were drug traffickers to fund their terrorism, not USA. . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jun 9 2025, 02:55 PM |
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QUOTE(Avex @ Jun 8 2025, 10:37 AM) actually China govt did tell them to stop producing all those crops and turn to grain production. China did provide them with seeds aid. China just want to avoid these drugs going into their border. China did alot to help Afghanistan, even try to tell them to allow women to have education, but the religion being the religion in the tablibans, it went back to the cave .Your news source please. From my above BBC news link, ....... .... And, of course, Afghanistan is by far the biggest producer of opium in the world. According to the US military, 90% of the world's heroin is made from opium grown in Afghanistan. It makes up 95% of the market in Europe; 90% of the Canadian market. Perhaps surprisingly, Afghan heroin is reckoned to make up only a tiny fraction of the US market. The US Drug Enforcement Agency claims as little as one per cent of US supply is from Afghanistan. It says virtually all the heroin used in America comes from Mexico and South American countries. ... = pre-2023 Afghan poppy production backed by the Taliban were mostly smuggled to Europe = practically none to CCP China, which practically has no drug addicts due to its fully tracked/monitored or spied on communist society, eg the Hukou system, online Real ID registration, CCTVs everywhere, etc. . |
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 9 2025, 02:22 PM) . You didn't watch the video, did you? 😂Like democratic USA, democratic Bharat is less evil than communist China, ie Bharat would also strictly restrict the export of fentanyl precursors so that they won't end up in the hands of Mexican drug cartels and Triad gangs, unlike greedy CCP China today who sells them to everyone without much background checking or oversight. Are there many fentany/opioid deaths of drug addicts in Bharat.? . ![]() China sells precursors to India, which the Indians were supposed to use to make painkillers. But "democratic less evil Bharat" instead makes it into the actual Fentanyl that directly poisons Americans. But India good, China Bad, amirite??? Don't know that's the point of your last sentence. China and India both don't have opioid/Fentanyl deaths. yhtan liked this post
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 9 2025, 02:28 PM) . Smarty-pants, I'm giving u an analogy about how ridiculous it is to blame the raw material supplier la.No lah. Fyi, US citizens have the constitutional right to bear arms (eg they can buy guns) = most guns in USA are made-in-USA with US steel, not made-in-Mexico with CCP China steel. ![]() . And yes, US also have the right and freedoms to take drugs. So go ahead and take drugs, and use guns on themselves and their kids in schools, it's their right. Just don't go blaming and sanctioning other countries cos they can't control their own corporations and their own citizens. The root cause are American corporations, not the CCP. In a year they earn $10B from selling opioids, then earn another 6B TREATING opioid addiction/side-effects. Fuck the people, money comes first. ![]() Who earns all that money? Why... all these CCP companies, of course. Don't be fooled by their American- sounding names though... ![]() |
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jun 8 2025, 09:50 PM) . The difference is, doctor-prescribed fentanyl and other opioids and psychotropic drugs, like methamphetamine, cocaine, morphine/opium, etc, are strictly regulated by the US government in USA but not those same drugs smuggled into USA by the Mexican drug cartels. So, if fentanyl precursors are produced in USA, ....... . QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 9 2025, 03:13 PM) You didn't watch the video, did you? 😂 .![]() China sells precursors to India, which the Indians were supposed to use to make painkillers. But "democratic less evil Bharat" instead makes it into the actual Fentanyl that directly poisons Americans. But India good, China Bad, amirite??? Don't know that's the point of your last sentence. China and India both don't have opioid/Fentanyl deaths. You didn't read my above reply, did you.? Doctor-prescribed fentanyl, from India ≠ illegal fentanyl from Mexico smuggled into USA. Few isolated deaths due to abuse/misuse of the former ≠ thousands of deaths due to abuse/misuse of the latter. . |
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jun 9 2025, 02:28 PM) . No lah. Fyi, US citizens have the constitutional right to bear arms (eg they can buy guns) = most guns in USA are made-in-USA with US steel, not made-in-Mexico with CCP China steel. ![]() . QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jun 9 2025, 03:32 PM) . You didn't read my above reply, did you.? Doctor-prescribed fentanyl, from India ≠ illegal fentanyl from Mexico smuggled into USA. Few isolated deaths due to abuse/misuse of the former ≠ thousands of deaths due to abuse/misuse of the latter. . QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 9 2025, 03:31 PM) Smarty-pants, I'm giving u an analogy about how ridiculous it is to blame the raw material supplier la. Wanna make analogy also, don't la use lies or misinformation about USA, ie the lie that US citizens are buying guns made-in-Mexico with imported CCP China steel and smuggled into USA by Americans. And yes, US also have the right and freedoms to take drugs. So go ahead and take drugs, and use guns on themselves and their kids in schools, it's their right. Just don't go blaming and sanctioning other countries cos they can't control their own corporations and their own citizens. The root cause are American corporations, not the CCP. In a year they earn $10B from selling opioids, then earn another 6B TREATING opioid addiction/side-effects. Fuck the people, money comes first. ![]() Who earns all that money? Why... all these CCP companies, of course. Don't be fooled by their American- sounding names though... ![]() QUOTE((pornoman2128 @ Jun 8 2025 @ 10:16 PM) So if India takes over precursor production, then it's Bharat's fault pulak for the zombies of America? Anyone but America's own fault, right? China makes steel, Mexico makes them into guns, American smuggle in these guns and shoots themselves in the head with them. Result? AMDKs: " China misusing their steel production to kill innocent Americans cos they want to war with us. They should know if Mexicans buy steel, it's because they'll only make guns for American to kill themselves with, so they gotta be more responsible and not sell steel to Mexican.... or Canadians now." . . Imagine, a CCP-lover equating legally doctor-prescribed opioids, eg as painkillers, legally manufactured by BIG Pharma, with illegal opioids smuggled into USA by evil Mexican drug cartels, eg illegal fentanyl manufactured by the Mexican drug cartels from precursors easily imported from greedy CCP China. . |
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Malaysia already has piaopiao.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 9 2025, 03:32 PM) . No one is talking about few isolated deaths outside of America....why even bring this up? The bloody topic is AMERICA'S FENTANYL crisis and who is to blame. A unique problem only America faces, of which everyone but themselves are to blame.You didn't read my above reply, did you.? Doctor-prescribed fentanyl, from India ≠ illegal fentanyl from Mexico smuggled into USA. Few isolated deaths due to abuse/misuse of the former ≠ thousands of deaths due to abuse/misuse of the latter. . You know US has also always blamed India (other than China, Mexico and Canada) for their Opioid problems? Its just because India is not challenging America economically NOW, that they are not pushing blame on India. But get too close to Russia, or start getting economically independent of the US dollar hegemony and you'll suddenly see India together with China getting all the blame. Maybe that's why India keep sabotaging the BRICKS from being dollar-independent. ![]() ![]() |
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QUOTE(sunami @ Jun 9 2025, 02:24 PM) sendiri bodo nak hisap sala orenlain... .so those white sausage lickers bodo sala their parents gene... topkek sohai Fyi, ie most drug addicts are young victims who were gullible/ignorant, ....... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/heroin-u...on-1092858.html - Heroin UK: Dealers trick young users into addiction - 10 May 1999 . |
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QUOTE(judas @ Jun 8 2025, 02:00 PM) CIA, high and drugs, berpisah tiada sure sala others one...Opiates - blame afghanistan, Taliban Cocaine - blame mexico, south america Fentanyl - blame China Apalagi mau blame? sendiri wanna hisap....tak salah...kek white sausage lickers logic paling terbodo... according to their logic... robbers no wrong one..sala gold shop selling gold for them to rob.. kek This post has been edited by sunami: Jun 9 2025, 04:04 PM |
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No ICE protest thread yet?
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QUOTE(sunami @ Jun 9 2025, 04:02 PM) sure sala others one... In History, long long time ago...sendiri wanna hisap....tak salah...kek white sausage lickers logic paling terbodo... according to their logic... robbers no wrong one..sala gold shop selling gold for them to rob.. kek West force open China to "open trade" for Opium West never blame themselves (British) for shipping in Opium to China? Karma Wedchar2912 liked this post
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QUOTE(judas @ Jun 9 2025, 05:10 PM) In History, long long time ago... karma? is ok...West force open China to "open trade" for Opium West never blame themselves (British) for shipping in Opium to China? Karma janji white sausage licker /k minions will continue lick their masta... few ekors here licking non stop.. lmao |
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 9 2025, 03:57 PM) No one is talking about few isolated deaths outside of America....why even bring this up? The bloody topic is AMERICA'S FENTANYL crisis and who is to blame. A unique problem only America faces, of which everyone but themselves are to blame. .You know US has also always blamed India (other than China, Mexico and Canada) for their Opioid problems? Its just because India is not challenging America economically NOW, that they are not pushing blame on India. But get too close to Russia, or start getting economically independent of the US dollar hegemony and you'll suddenly see India together with China getting all the blame. Maybe that's why India keep sabotaging the BRICKS from being dollar-independent. ![]() ![]() A more detailed news report, ....... . https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/28/india/in...report-intl-hnk - India among top suppliers of illicit fentanyl precursors, US intelligence report says - 28 March 2025 .... “China remains the primary source country for illicit fentanyl precursor chemicals and pill pressing equipment, followed by India.” ... On March 17, India’s Anti-Terrorist Squad (ATS) in the western state of Gujarat said it had arrested two people linked to Surat-based pharmaceutical companies for allegedly exporting illicit fentanyl precursors to Mexico and Guatemala, according to the Press Trust of India. CNN has reached out to the ATS. Days later, the US Department of Justice indicted three top executives from a Hyderabad-based pharmaceutical company for allegedly importing ingredients used to make illicit fentanyl. ... . India has arrested people who exported illicit fentanyl precursors to Mexico = India no kena US Fentanyl Tariffs. CCP China no arrests = kena 10% US Fentanyl Tariffs. See the difference between India and CCP China.? . |
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seem like people dont like FBI Macha
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 9 2025, 05:01 PM) . Why America face drugs problem since the 80s?Fyi, ie most drug addicts are young victims who were gullible/ignorant, ....... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/heroin-u...on-1092858.html - Heroin UK: Dealers trick young users into addiction - 10 May 1999 . Back in the 80s, there were war on drugs but their drugs problem becoming worse and worse. Why? You can trace it to the late 60s and early 70s when the hippies culture was prominent A lot of hippies started families and no longer follow hippies lifestyle but their lax views on drugs were never extinguished That is why weed smoking is a norm for the American youngsters since the 80s From weed smoking, a lot of them experimented with more hardcore drugs and thats why drugs such as Cocaine, Ecstasy, Heroin and Methamphetamine become so popular. Fentanyl is a potent synthetic opioid drug approved by the US Food and Drug Administration for use as an analgesic (pain relief) and anesthetic. China is a major producer and exporter of the chemicals needed to make fentanyl, and a lot of countries import them. However, it is only America that is facing a fentanyl crisis. Strange isn't it? This post has been edited by 30624770: Jun 9 2025, 04:26 PM |
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U know why USA keep saying Fentanyl Precursors?
Because 4-Piperidone is used for making whole lots of pharmaceuticals and medicines such as:- Diphenylpyraline (Allergen) - antihistamine for allergy Loperamide (Imodium) - diarrhea treatment And many more. But these 2 already many people using as medicine. Stupid to think it is only used for making Fentanyl ![]() This post has been edited by judas: Jun 9 2025, 04:24 PM |
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 9 2025, 03:49 PM) Wanna make analogy also, don't la use lies or misinformation about USA, ie the lie that US citizens are buying guns made-in-Mexico with imported CCP China steel and smuggled into USA by Americans. Explaining things to you can vomit blood. Always go off on a tangent, and bringing in unrelated points that others then need to waste time educating you on.. . Imagine, a CCP-lover equating legally doctor-prescribed opioids, eg as painkillers, legally manufactured by BIG Pharma, with illegal opioids smuggled into USA by evil Mexican drug cartels, eg illegal fentanyl manufactured by the Mexican drug cartels from precursors easily imported from greedy CCP China. . Analogies no need need to be based on facts la. It is to give you extreme examples of more difficult to understand concepts, since you seem to be having difficulty accepting that the RAW MATERIAL PROVIDER (ESP IF THE RAW MATERIAL HAS DUAL USE) IS NOT TO BE BLAMED IF THE USER MISUSES THE END PRODUCT FOR SELF-HARM!! GEDDIT?? Example of analogies: As blind as a bat; Fact = Bats are not blind, got eyes one. As busy as a bee; Fact = Only about 20% of the bees in a beehive account for 50% of the foraging. The other 80% shake ballz only. Here's another analogy for you. You go out drinking, then crash your car and kill another person. If you're Chinese, then of course you will blame yourself, and police will rightly jail your ass. Your ma and pa also will blame you (cos you not anak saya baek orangnya) But since you are American, you'll blame Carlsberg Brewery Malaysia Berhad, and whatever pub you went drinking in that night. Maybe you'd even blame the country for not making alcohol illegal, since its a fact that Alcohol "significantly impairs driving ability, affecting vision, reaction time, coordination, and judgment, making driving unsafe." And especially since you're American, you'd definitely have to find a way to blame the CCP in this. Just say its the CCP Chinese in Malaysia bringing in their GANBEI culture, and opening pubs and bars all over KL, that caused you to lose self-control. It is clear that the only person innocent in all this is the drunkard behind the wheel. Also your so-called "legally-prescribed opioids legally manufactured by BIG PHARMA" has been found liable for causing the opioid crisis in America. .Legally prescribed opioids started this whole mess in America. So don't just go blaming the illegal manufacturers thousands of miles away.... https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-therapies/opioids About 75% of people in the U.S. who became addicted to street opioids such as heroin during the 2000s report that they started out taking prescription opioid drugs. This trend may be related to availability: In most parts of the United States, fentanyl is cheaper and easier to obtain than prescription opioids. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41701718 American doctors prescribe - a lot Unlike most European countries, the US does not have universal healthcare paid for by taxes. Instead, Americans must get their own insurance - usually via an employer or the government. "Most insurance, especially for poor people, won't pay for anything but a pill," says Professor Judith Feinberg from the West Virginia University School of Medicine. "Say you have a patient that's 45 years old. They have lower back pain, you examine them, they have a muscle spasm. "Really the best thing is physical therapy, but no one will pay for that. So doctors get very ready to pull out the prescription pad. "Even if the insurance covers physical therapy, you probably need prior authorisation (from the insurer) - which is a lot of time and paperwork." The CDC says opioid prescriptions have fallen by 18% from their peak in 2010. But the total is still three times higher than in 1999. |
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 9 2025, 04:14 PM) . China is the 1st country to put permanent controls on the entire class of Fentanyl Precursors, even thought this problem is not faced by ANY OTHER COUNTRY EXCEPT AMERICA.A more detailed news report, ....... . https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/28/india/in...report-intl-hnk - India among top suppliers of illicit fentanyl precursors, US intelligence report says - 28 March 2025 .... “China remains the primary source country for illicit fentanyl precursor chemicals and pill pressing equipment, followed by India.” ... On March 17, India’s Anti-Terrorist Squad (ATS) in the western state of Gujarat said it had arrested two people linked to Surat-based pharmaceutical companies for allegedly exporting illicit fentanyl precursors to Mexico and Guatemala, according to the Press Trust of India. CNN has reached out to the ATS. Days later, the US Department of Justice indicted three top executives from a Hyderabad-based pharmaceutical company for allegedly importing ingredients used to make illicit fentanyl. ... . India has arrested people who exported illicit fentanyl precursors to Mexico = India no kena US Fentanyl Tariffs. CCP China no arrests = kena 10% US Fentanyl Tariffs. See the difference between India and CCP China.? . Wanna see how much China has bent backward to accommodate the useless Americans in fixing their own issues? Own self got problem also don't want to fix it permanently. ![]() And who says no arrests in China? ![]() India should be careful la, the American's already has it in its sights. Now while focused on suppressing China, India still can be a useful idiot for the Americans. ![]() This post has been edited by pornoman2128: Jun 9 2025, 05:45 PM |
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 9 2025, 04:38 PM) Explaining things to you can vomit blood. Always go off on a tangent, and bringing in unrelated points that others then need to waste time educating you on. Fyi, .......Analogies no need need to be based on facts la. It is to give you extreme examples of more difficult to understand concepts, since you seem to be having difficulty accepting that the RAW MATERIAL PROVIDER (ESP IF THE RAW MATERIAL HAS DUAL USE) IS NOT TO BE BLAMED IF THE USER MISUSES THE END PRODUCT FOR SELF-HARM!! GEDDIT?? Example of analogies: As blind as a bat; Fact = Bats are not blind, got eyes one. As busy as a bee; Fact = Only about 20% of the bees in a beehive account for 50% of the foraging. The other 80% shake ballz only. Here's another analogy for you. You go out drinking, then crash your car and kill another person. If you're Chinese, then of course you will blame yourself, and police will rightly jail your ass. Your ma and pa also will blame you (cos you not anak saya baek orangnya) But since you are American, you'll blame Carlsberg Brewery Malaysia Berhad, and whatever pub you went drinking in that night. Maybe you'd even blame the country for not making alcohol illegal, since its a fact that Alcohol "significantly impairs driving ability, affecting vision, reaction time, coordination, and judgment, making driving unsafe." And especially since you're American, you'd definitely have to find a way to blame the CCP in this. Just say its the CCP Chinese in Malaysia bringing in their GANBEI culture, and opening pubs and bars all over KL, that caused you to lose self-control. It is clear that the only person innocent in all this is the drunkard behind the wheel. Gemini AI Overview: Analogies based on lies (or non-facts) can be called false analogies , weak analogies, faulty analogies, or questionable analogies. They can also be referred to as bad analogies or false metaphors. The key characteristic is that they draw a comparison based on a lie or misleading information, making the analogy itself invalid. https://study.com/learn/lesson/false-analog...k-examples.html - False Analogy Fallacy | Definition & Examples .... False Analogy Fallacy A fallacy is an error in one's reasoning that can lead to faulty or invalid arguments and claims. Fallacies are often used in writing or speeches in attempts to persuade an audience. These types of fallacies are called rhetorical fallacies, and they can be used to manipulate or deceive people into believing false narratives or claims. Rhetorical fallacies are often used by media outlets, political figures, and various types of activist groups. ... . QUOTE((pornoman) Also your so-called "legally-prescribed opioids legally manufactured by BIG PHARMA" has been found liable for causing the opioid crisis in America. Again, spreading lies or misinformation, ....... .Legally prescribed opioids started this whole mess in America. So don't just go blaming the illegal manufacturers thousands of miles away.... https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/no...y-opioid-crisis - Purdue Pharma pleads guilty to criminal charges related to US opioid crisis OxyContin maker admits to actions aimed at boosting opioid prescriptions, including conspiring to defraud (government) officials and offering illegal kickbacks (to doctors, etc) Reuters Tue 24 Nov 2020 . . QUOTE((pornoman) https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-therapies/opioids Fyi, .......About 75% of people in the U.S. who became addicted to street opioids such as heroin during the 2000s report that they started out taking prescription opioid drugs. This trend may be related to availability: In most parts of the United States, fentanyl is cheaper and easier to obtain than prescription opioids. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41701718 American doctors prescribe - a lot Unlike most European countries, the US does not have universal healthcare paid for by taxes. Instead, Americans must get their own insurance - usually via an employer or the government. "Most insurance, especially for poor people, won't pay for anything but a pill," says Professor Judith Feinberg from the West Virginia University School of Medicine. "Say you have a patient that's 45 years old. They have lower back pain, you examine them, they have a muscle spasm. "Really the best thing is physical therapy, but no one will pay for that. So doctors get very ready to pull out the prescription pad. "Even if the insurance covers physical therapy, you probably need prior authorisation (from the insurer) - which is a lot of time and paperwork." The CDC says opioid prescriptions have fallen by 18% from their peak in 2010. But the total is still three times higher than in 1999. https://www.osc.ny.gov/reports/continuing-c...deaths-new-york - Continuing Crisis: Drug Overdose Deaths in New York - November 2022 .... At the core of this crisis is a shocking rise in opioid-related deaths, which grew by almost 300 percent between 2010 and 2020 to comprise 85 percent of all drug overdose deaths in New York in 2020. In recent years, the increase has been spurred by a rise in fentanyl, a cheap and potent synthetic opioid that traffickers are mixing with other illegal drugs to drive addiction and increase their profits; users are often unaware they are taking fentanyl until it is too late. This dangerous combination of factors is leading to devastating results. ... . Note that a hospital patient or mental patient "addicted" to doctor-prescribed psychotropic medication, like opioids or methamphetamine, is not very different from a Type-2 diabetic who is "addicted" to doctor-prescribed insulin or metformin, in order to survive or be near-normal physically, ... or a heart patient "addicted" to doctor-prescribed blood thinners and/or hypertension medication. ....... Similarly for drug addicts, alcoholics, chain-smokers, coffee/tea/chocolate "addicts, etc. Are you against the "addictive" treatment by the above doctors prescribing such pharmaceutical drugs.? . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jun 9 2025, 06:01 PM |
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 9 2025, 05:43 PM) .https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/chinese-c...l-manufacturing Note that the above criminal investigation and indictments were carried out by the US government and publicized, not by the CCP govt. Only then or after-the-fact, did CCP China took action against the criminals indicted by USA, likely for CCP China to "save face". India carried out such criminal investigation and arrests on its own in India. Has CCP China done such criminal investigation and arrests/indictments on its own in China.? So, apples and oranges. . |
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 9 2025, 05:43 PM) China is the 1st country to put permanent controls on the entire class of Fentanyl Precursors, even thought this problem is not faced by ANY OTHER COUNTRY EXCEPT AMERICA. .Wanna see how much China has bent backward to accommodate the useless Americans in fixing their own issues? Own self got problem also don't want to fix it permanently. ![]() Like I said before, the more evil communist CCP China is a well known liar ("cakap tak serupa bikin" or do not walk the talk or cannot be trusted or believed in), scammer, cheater, copycat, thief, hacker, greedy profiteer, indirect drug trafficker, oppressor, etc. . |
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 9 2025, 05:56 PM) Fyi, ....... Try using your god given brain to think, no need to keep depending fully on AI to make all your arguments. Gemini AI Overview: Analogies based on lies (or non-facts) can be called false analogies , weak analogies, faulty analogies, or questionable analogies. They can also be referred to as bad analogies or false metaphors. The key characteristic is that they draw a comparison based on a lie or misleading information, making the analogy itself invalid. https://study.com/learn/lesson/false-analog...k-examples.html - False Analogy Fallacy | Definition & Examples .... False Analogy Fallacy A fallacy is an error in one's reasoning that can lead to faulty or invalid arguments and claims. Fallacies are often used in writing or speeches in attempts to persuade an audience. These types of fallacies are called rhetorical fallacies, and they can be used to manipulate or deceive people into believing false narratives or claims. Rhetorical fallacies are often used by media outlets, political figures, and various types of activist groups. ... . Fyi, ....... https://www.osc.ny.gov/reports/continuing-c...deaths-new-york - Continuing Crisis: Drug Overdose Deaths in New York - November 2022 .... At the core of this crisis is a shocking rise in opioid-related deaths, which grew by almost 300 percent between 2010 and 2020 to comprise 85 percent of all drug overdose deaths in New York in 2020. In recent years, the increase has been spurred by a rise in fentanyl, a cheap and potent synthetic opioid that traffickers are mixing with other illegal drugs to drive addiction and increase their profits; users are often unaware they are taking fentanyl until it is too late. This dangerous combination of factors is leading to devastating results. ... . Note that a hospital patient or mental patient "addicted" to doctor-prescribed psychotropic medication, like opioids or methamphetamine, is not very different from a Type-2 diabetic who is "addicted" to doctor-prescribed insulin or metformin, in order to survive or be near-normal physically, ... or a heart patient "addicted" to doctor-prescribed blood thinners and/or hypertension medication. ....... Similarly for drug addicts, alcoholics, chain-smokers, coffee/tea/chocolate "addicts, etc. Are you against the "addictive" treatment by the above doctors prescribing such pharmaceutical drugs.? . You didn't dispute that analogies do not need to be based on facts. Already give u 2 examples. But since AI is your God, go on basing your life on everything it tells you. CAN BE =/= IS. The Devil is in the details: You expect Purdue to plead guilty to the non-existent charge of "causing a drug addiction epidemic" is it? ![]() ![]() QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 9 2025, 05:56 PM) Note that a hospital patient or mental patient "addicted" to doctor-prescribed psychotropic medication, like opioids or methamphetamine, is not very different from a Type-2 diabetic who is "addicted" to doctor-prescribed insulin or metformin, in order to survive or be near-normal physically, ... or a heart patient "addicted" to doctor-prescribed blood thinners and/or hypertension medication. This here is a classic Strawman argument from Sir lurkingaround, known far and wide in/k for deploying such countermeasures whenever he has run out of counterpoints, or AI has let him down. ....... Similarly for drug addicts, alcoholics, chain-smokers, coffee/tea/chocolate "addicts, etc. Are you against the "addictive" treatment by the above doctors prescribing such pharmaceutical drugs.? . Misrepresent: Likened the addiction of the most powerful drug known to mankind that has directly caused 500k deaths in America, to the addiction of coffee, sugar and tea!!! (No one gets "addicted to insulin la, its a "need", not a "want") Attacks the Misrepresentation: You against ppl drinking coffee and tea ar?? Makes the Original Argument appear weaker: pornoman2128 the joker wants to ban Starbucks and Chagee!! ![]() |
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 9 2025, 06:35 PM) This idiot lurkingaround already famous for using AI generated slop for /k anti china arguments. Don't entertain him lo. Waste your time only. |
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 9 2025, 06:21 PM) . How you know China didn't publicize it? You read China newspaper everyday ar? Also, nice of America doing some investigations and indictments to fix their own issues for a change, instead of pointing fingers at China and asking it do make new laws and enforcement only. China is there to enact penalties if so warranted. You say save face, I say win-win cooperation. If China ignore the US then you'll accuse China of something else instead, amiright?https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/chinese-c...l-manufacturing Note that the above criminal investigation and indictments were carried out by the US government and publicized, not by the CCP govt. Only then or after-the-fact, did CCP China took action against the criminals indicted by USA, likely for CCP China to "save face". India carried out such criminal investigation and arrests on its own in India. Has CCP China done such criminal investigation and arrests/indictments on its own in China.? So, apples and oranges. . How you know India carried out anything? They say only la, CNN still trying to verify. It CAN BE (that damn word again) that they make up story cos wanna avoid tariffs only....CNN also voicing its suspicions in black and white. Trust India at your own peril. ![]() QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 9 2025, 06:27 PM) . Keep on sucking on western propaganda then.Like I said before, the more evil communist CCP China is a well known liar ("cakap tak serupa bikin" or do not walk the talk or cannot be trusted or believed in), scammer, cheater, copycat, thief, hacker, greedy profiteer, indirect drug trafficker, oppressor, etc. . |
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Jun 9 2025, 06:41 PM) This idiot lurkingaround already famous for using AI generated slop for /k anti china arguments. Don't entertain him lo. Waste your time only. I abit free waiting for my kids to come home for dinner. Today I off day cos replacement Raya Haji holidays, so layan that joker a bit. |
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jun 9 2025, 05:56 PM) Fyi, ....... Gemini AI Overview: Analogies based on lies (or non-facts) can be called false analogies , weak analogies, faulty analogies, or questionable analogies. They can also be referred to as bad analogies or false metaphors. The key characteristic is that they draw a comparison based on a lie or misleading information, making the analogy itself invalid. https://study.com/learn/lesson/false-analog...k-examples.html - False Analogy Fallacy | Definition & Examples .... False Analogy Fallacy A fallacy is an error in one's reasoning that can lead to faulty or invalid arguments and claims. Fallacies are often used in writing or speeches in attempts to persuade an audience. These types of fallacies are called rhetorical fallacies, and they can be used to manipulate or deceive people into believing false narratives or claims. Rhetorical fallacies are often used by media outlets, political figures, and various types of activist groups. ... . Fyi, ....... https://www.osc.ny.gov/reports/continuing-c...deaths-new-york - Continuing Crisis: Drug Overdose Deaths in New York - November 2022 .... At the core of this crisis is a shocking rise in opioid-related deaths, which grew by almost 300 percent between 2010 and 2020 to comprise 85 percent of all drug overdose deaths in New York in 2020. In recent years, the increase has been spurred by a rise in fentanyl, a cheap and potent synthetic opioid that traffickers are mixing with other illegal drugs to drive addiction and increase their profits; users are often unaware they are taking fentanyl until it is too late. This dangerous combination of factors is leading to devastating results. ... . Note that a hospital patient or mental patient "addicted" to doctor-prescribed psychotropic medication, like opioids or methamphetamine, is not very different from a Type-2 diabetic who is "addicted" to doctor-prescribed insulin or metformin, in order to survive or be near-normal physically, ... or a heart patient "addicted" to doctor-prescribed blood thinners and/or hypertension medication. ....... Similarly for drug addicts, alcoholics, chain-smokers, coffee/tea/chocolate "addicts, etc. Are you against the "addictive" treatment by the above doctors prescribing such pharmaceutical drugs.? . QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 9 2025, 06:35 PM) Try using your god given brain to think, no need to keep depending fully on AI to make all your arguments. No lah. I was pointing out the misuse of your analogy that was based on lies or non-facts or misinformation, not that there are no false analogies.You didn't dispute that analogies do not need to be based on facts. Already give u 2 examples. But since AI is your God, go on basing your life on everything it tells you. CAN BE =/= IS. QUOTE((pornoman) The Devil is in the details: You expect Purdue to plead guilty to the non-existent charge of "causing a drug addiction epidemic" is it? ![]() https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/us-att...peaker-programs - U.S. Attorney Announces $202 Million Settlement With Gilead Sciences For Using Speaker Programs To Pay Kickbacks To Doctors To Induce Them To Prescribe Gilead’s (HIV/AIDS) Drugs - 29 April 2025 https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/actelion...-paid-kickbacks - Actelion Pharmaceuticals Agrees to Pay $360 Million to Resolve Allegations that it Paid Kickbacks Through a Co-Pay Assistance Foundation (for hypertension drugs) Thursday, December 6, 2018 . . QUOTE((pornoman) This here is a classic Strawman argument from Sir lurkingaround, known far and wide in/k for deploying such countermeasures whenever he has run out of counterpoints, or AI has let him down. Not strawman la. .......Misrepresent: Likened the addiction of the most powerful drug known to mankind that has directly caused 500k deaths in America, to the addiction of coffee, sugar and tea!!! (No one gets "addicted to insulin la, its a "need", not a "want") Attacks the Misrepresentation: You against ppl drinking coffee and tea ar?? Makes the Original Argument appear weaker: pornoman2128 the joker wants to ban Starbucks and Chagee!! ![]() https://www.verywellmind.com/caffeine-addiction-4157287 - Caffeine Addiction Symptoms and Withdrawal - 16 Aug 2023 . |
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 9 2025, 06:35 PM) This here is a classic Strawman argument from Sir lurkingaround, known far and wide in/k for deploying such countermeasures whenever he has run out of counterpoints, or AI has let him down. That's his strategy la, he doesn't aim to debate fairly, he's trying to play mental game to provoke others to play his game. He don't have to waste effort cause most of it are thru AI while exhausting other people. As long as you prompt the argue your points, even if it's wrong, the AI will also try to argue due to the algorithms.Additionally read his text formatting also gave people eye cancer, further prove my point his plan to make people mentally exhausted.His strategy will always get him the last reply but whether his reply hold any value of influence is another story. I know he doesn't have a brain the moment he liked redic's comment. This post has been edited by Viper236: Jun 9 2025, 07:51 PM pornoman2128 liked this post
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 9 2025, 06:50 PM) How you know China didn't publicize it? You read China newspaper everyday ar? ... .How you know India carried out anything? They say only la, CNN still trying to verify. It CAN BE (that damn word again) that they make up story cos wanna avoid tariffs only....CNN also voicing its suspicions in black and white. Trust India at your own peril. ![]() Fyi, ie a detailed news report from the mostly free Indian press, unlike the mostly non-free Chinese press, ....... https://www.business-standard.com/india-new...31801236_1.html - Gujarat ATS arrests two for illegal precursor chemical exports to Mexico The contraband was being sent via air cargo to companies based in Mexico and Guatemala after being procured from Indian companies using fake end-user certificates and bogus invoices, according to ATS - 18 March 2025 Gujarat Anti Terrorist Squad (ATS) arrested two persons for illegally exporting precursor chemicals for manufacturing fentanyl and other banned psychotropic substances by air to drug mafias in Mexico, Guatemala, and other countries, it said on Tuesday. An investigation showed that the partners of certain chemical and pharma companies in Surat had illegally procured and exported precursors for the manufacturing of the controlled psychotropic substance fentanyl, prohibited in many countries, the ATS said in a release. The accused individuals used bogus end-user certificates and fake invoices, and misdeclared the shipments to evade detection by the Customs Departments and international narcotics agencies while smuggling the chemicals via air cargo to companies in Mexico and Guatemala, it said. These substances -- 1-Boc-4-piperidone (N-Boc-4-piperidone) and 4-piperidone -- have been placed on the Red List by the United Nations International Narcotics Control Board (INCB) and also listed under the International Special Surveillance List (ISSL) by India's Central Bureau of Narcotics (CBN), the ATS said. The ATS stated that Satishkumar Sutariya, the main partner of Athos Chemicals Pvt. Ltd, Agrat Chemicals & Pharmaceuticals, and S.R. Chemicals & Pharmaceuticals in Surat, along with his partners and certain drug mafias from Mexico and Guatemala, conspired to smuggle contraband. ... . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jun 9 2025, 08:07 PM |
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QUOTE(Viper236 @ Jun 9 2025, 07:49 PM) That's his strategy la, he doesn't aim to debate fairly, he's trying to play mental game to provoke others to play his game. He don't have to waste effort cause most of it are thru AI while exhausting other people. As long as you prompt the argue your points, even if it's wrong, the AI will also try to argue due to the algorithms. don't forget he likes to self reference himself as proof and as justifications for his weird argument. haha. Additionally read his text formatting also gave people eye cancer, further prove my point his plan to make people mentally exhausted.His strategy will always get him the last reply but whether his reply hold any value of influence is another story. I know he doesn't have a brain the moment he liked redic's comment. plus many a times he posted so called links which actually is against his own argument. a very special way of justification... Viper236 liked this post
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QUOTE(Viper236 @ Jun 9 2025, 07:49 PM) That's his strategy la, he doesn't aim to debate fairly, he's trying to play mental game to provoke others to play his game. He don't have to waste effort cause most of it are thru AI while exhausting other people. As long as you prompt the argue your points, even if it's wrong, the AI will also try to argue due to the algorithms. .Additionally read his text formatting also gave people eye cancer, further prove my point his plan to make people mentally exhausted. His strategy will always get him the last reply but whether his reply hold any value of influence is another story. I know he doesn't have a brain the moment he liked redic's comment. So then, you should refrain from debating with me since it makes you mentally exhausted. The CCP-lovers, 'pornoman2128' and '30624770', and the God-haters, 'puchongite' and 'Spear2', seem not affected as such. How come ah.? . |
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