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fongsk
post Jun 8 2025, 06:47 AM

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jun 8 2025, 01:21 AM)
What cxb memorial they are building? Only mention memorial? Wtf memorial? Memorial communist ke? Memorial apa yg sangat menteigger sangat ni??
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It is a columbarium and crematorium. I know 2 such places in Kedah which is smacked right in the Malay kampungs. One is quite remote but the other is in Alor Star. There was no such protests as well. Green wave in Kedah? Nah…..
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post Jun 8 2025, 06:48 AM

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QUOTE(Najibaik @ Jun 8 2025, 01:22 AM)
and pmx asking why got islamophobia
i see these ppl wearing cap i also takut
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He is also part of the people who created this in his early days on BN1.0 and now.
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post Jun 8 2025, 06:49 AM

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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Jun 8 2025, 04:27 AM)
Are there any churches that are on gov land? Not talking about those old colonial churches. The modern one. Serious question.
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Nowadays, churches has gone mainstream stream. They rent shop lots.
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Fuyoooh, puak paling tertindas

Everything oso wan free, buy your own land lah
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Hari ni larangan, esok jumpa kuil 1000 tahun oready, KEK
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Nak 'tongkat' tanah free ke?
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Nak 'tongkat' tanah free ke?
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post Jun 8 2025, 07:48 AM

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How can total ban?

Indian temples can consolidate for the same area?
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post Jun 8 2025, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Jun 8 2025, 05:34 AM)
there is a reason why the gomen don't wan sign icerd
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Icerd it the most toothless set of UN convention. Nothing stopping countries that already signed to blatantly ignore the convention.

If Malaysia did sign also nothing will change. It's just that thanos use this icerd to rule out sentiments during his 2nd tenure as part of his plan to topple ph. It was successful as langkah Sheraton was the result. The only failure was that he fell along with it.
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QUOTE(tupai @ Jun 8 2025, 07:53 AM)
Icerd it the most toothless set of UN convention. Nothing stopping countries that already signed to blatantly ignore the convention.

If Malaysia did sign also nothing will change. It's just that thanos use this icerd to rule out sentiments during his 2nd tenure as part of his plan to topple ph. It was successful as langkah Sheraton was the result. The only failure was that he fell along with it.
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regardless of whether it is toothless or not, whether anything will change after signing it

the refusal of signing is a reflection of 'they know what they are doing is wrong but they do it anyway'. now try to spin that
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Jun 8 2025, 06:49 AM)
Nowadays, churches has gone mainstream stream. They rent shop lots.
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So answer is no lo.

Yeah a lot fo shoplot churches. Been like that for a long time alreadt.
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post Jun 8 2025, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Jun 8 2025, 08:20 AM)
So answer is no lo.

Yeah a lot fo shoplot churches. Been like that for a long time alreadt.
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In remote areas, there might be, just not highlighted or noticed.

But nowadays, Buddhist viharas and churches are generally built on rented properties or own properties in shop lots. And as long as no one makes noise, the authorities just close eyes. The new Buddhist viharas do not burn joss sticks as much as the old ones.
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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jun 8 2025, 07:04 AM)
Fuyoooh, puak paling tertindas

Everything oso wan free, buy your own land lah
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Last time in klang aka Columbia, got 1 huge mamak store build on ppl land don’t want to go away, said ancestor permit him to do biz here for free forever
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Jun 8 2025, 02:56 AM)
like is said

abu pun takut

https://www.astroawani.com/berita-malaysia/...n-masjid-524030

KLANG: Penduduk Kampung Raja Uda di sini mempertimbangkan untuk mempersembahkan memorandum bantahan kepada Sultan Selangor Sultan Sharafuddin Idris Shah berhubung pembinaan kompleks penyimpanan abu mayat setinggi empat tingkat bersebelahan masjid di kampung itu.
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Oh kira Macam cemetery lah. Faham faham.. Memang got unsure keagamaan pun. N normally tempat tempat Macam ni is near tokong or churches. Kenapa yg ni near mosque pulak. Ganjil. Siapa yg nak drive all the way n simpan Abu loved ones Kat kampung melayu ulu ulu area???

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QUOTE(fongsk @ Jun 8 2025, 08:24 AM)
In remote areas, there might be, just not highlighted or noticed.

But nowadays, Buddhist viharas and churches are generally built on rented properties or own properties in shop lots. And as long as no one makes noise, the authorities just close eyes.  The new Buddhist viharas do not burn joss sticks as much as the old ones.
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The giant ass churce beside bukit Jalil highway? That looks like a space ship?
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jun 8 2025, 09:28 AM)
Oh kira Macam cemetery lah. Faham faham.. Memang got unsure keagamaan pun. N normally tempat tempat Macam ni is near tokong or churches. Kenapa yg ni near mosque pulak. Ganjil. Siapa yg nak drive all the way n simpan Abu loved ones Kat kampung melayu ulu ulu area???
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if not simpan in ulu place then simpan in the city?

u got brain or not

this the problems with malays

dont understand minorities after 67 years, have too much suspicious mind

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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Jun 8 2025, 09:41 AM)
if not simpan in ulu place then simpan in the city?

u got brain or not

this the problems with malays

dont understand minorities after 67 years, have too much suspicious mind
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You got read or not the article this is a super majorly Malay kpg. How are they exposed to culture for other minoritt races so their info is likely hundred percent from PAS politicians n Akmal Salleh. So this kind of mind set is expected. The Chinese association all rich rich I am preety sure the can find much better fengshui place back of mountain front face water area to buy n build expensive memorial centre's like the semyih virvana memorial centre.
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jun 8 2025, 09:50 AM)
You got read or not the article this is a super majorly Malay kpg. How are they exposed to culture for other minoritt races so their info is likely hundred percent from PAS politicians n Akmal Salleh. So this kind of mind set is expected. The Chinese association all rich rich I am preety sure the can find much better fengshui place back of mountain front face water area to buy n build expensive memorial centre's like the semyih virvana memorial centre.
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land cheap mah

and not all cina rich ok

stop stereotyping

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QUOTE(MaybachS600 @ Jun 8 2025, 12:21 AM)
Larangan kuil baru di Perak: Diskriminasi terselindung?

Kerajaan Negeri Perak dikritik susulan keputusan untuk tidak meluluskan sebarang permohonan pembinaan kuil baru di atas tanah kerajaan bagi tempoh sekurang-kurangnya lima tahun akan datang.

Presiden Parti Makkal Sakthi, RS Thanenthiran menyifatkan keputusan tersebut sebagai amat mengecewakan.

“Apakah mesej yang ingin disampaikan menerusi pekeliling ini? Adakah agama dan budaya kami tidak lagi diberi tempat dalam pembangunan negeri? Adakah sumbangan masyarakat India terhadap negeri ini boleh diketepikan begitu sahaja?
RS Thanenthiran

“Saya ingin tegaskan bahawa kuil bukan sekadar struktur fizikal. Ia adalah simbol kepercayaan, pusat komuniti, serta warisan budaya,” katanya.
Thanenthiran turut menjelaskan ramai tidak menyedari banyak kuil Hindu yang kini terletak di atas tanah kerajaan telah wujud sejak zaman penjajahan British.

Menurutnya, kuil berkenaan dibina oleh komuniti pekerja ladang dengan kebenaran rasmi daripada pihak kolonial ketika itu, bagi menjaga kebajikan dan kesejahteraan rohani masyarakat.

“Kita tidak boleh mengklasifikasikan semua kuil ini sebagai ‘tidak sah’ atau ‘struktur haram’ hanya kerana tiada dokumen rasmi.

"Isu ini tidak boleh dinilai semata-mata dari sudut undang-undang tanah, tetapi perlu dilihat dengan sensitiviti sejarah, budaya, dan peranan sosial kuil dalam masyarakat Hindu,” katanya.
Tegasnya, kerajaan negeri perlu segera menarik balik keputusan tersebut dan mencadangkan agar:

Satu pelan tindakan jangka panjang diwujudkan untuk menyemak status kuil-kuil Hindu yang telah lama berada di atas tanah kerajaan, dengan tujuan untuk memberi pengiktirafan rasmi dan penyelesaian sah.

Sesi libat urus secara terbuka dan telus diadakan bersama wakil masyarakat Hindu, pertubuhan bukan kerajaan (NGO) serta pakar warisan, sebelum sebarang dasar diperkenalkan yang menyentuh sensitiviti agama dan kaum.

Terdahulu, Exco Sumber Manusia, Kesihatan, Hal Ehwal Masyarakat India dan Integrasi Nasional Negeri Perak, A Sivanesan (gambar bawah) berkata kerajaan negeri telah membuat keputusan untuk melarang pembinaan kuil Hindu baru di atas tanah kerajaan selama lima tahun.
Jelasnya, perkara itu telah diputuskan menerusi Pekeliling Pengarah Tanah dan Galian Negeri Perak Bil. 3/2025 yang memberi panduan kepada pentadbir tanah berhubung dasar bagi Kaedah Pengurusan, Pelupusan dan Penguatkuasaan kawasan Rumah Ibadat Hindu (kuil) dan Tapak Perkuburan Hindu.

Menurut Sivanesan, Perak negeri pertama yang mengeluarkan pekeliling tersebut yang turut menyatakan walaupun kuil hendak dibina di atas tanah persendirian, ia tetap memerlukan kebenaran kerajaan.

"Kerajaan negeri tidak akan meluluskan apa-apa permohonan kuil baru sekurang-kurangnya dalam tempoh lima tahun akan datang.

“Sesiapa yang mahu membina juga boleh membeli tanah sendiri dan mendapatkan kelulusan pihak berkuasa tempatan (PBT), tetapi jika ia melibatkan tanah kerajaan, tindakan serta-merta akan diambil,” katanya selepas mempengerusikan Mesyuarat Jawatankuasa Hal Ehwal Agama Hindu Negeri di Bangunan Sri Perak pada Khamis.

“Sekiranya boleh dipindahkan, kita pindahkan.

“Kita tidak mahu mengambil tindakan untuk terus merobohkan kuil sedia ada kerana negara kita mempunyai kepelbagaian kaum dan toleransi adalah penting dalam menyelesaikan masalah sensitif melalui permuafakatan,” katanya lagi.

Sivanesan juga berkata Perak mempunyai sekitar 480 kuil yang berdaftar dan jumlah itu melebihi bilangan tokong dan gereja.

Jelasnya, kebanyakan kuil ini dibina pada masa dahulu dengan kebenaran daripada Jabatan Penguatkuasaan, bukan secara haram seperti yang sering disalah tafsirkan.
Sementara itu, Naib Presiden MIC, T Murugiah (gambar atas) menyelar kenyataan Sivanesan sebagai tidak sensitif malah bercanggah dengan Perkara 11 Perlembagaan Persekutuan yang menjamin kebebasan beragama kepada semua rakyat Malaysia.

“Mengapa sekatan ini hanya disasarkan kepada kuil Hindu? Adakah dasar ini turut terpakai kepada rumah ibadat agama lain seperti masjid, gereja atau tokong Cina?

“Apa yang akan berlaku kepada kuil Hindu yang telah wujud sejak beberapa dekad di atas tanah kerajaan? Adakah kerajaan negeri bercadang untuk merobohkannya?

“Adakah keputusan dasar ini dibuat melalui proses perundingan dan dialog dengan ketua-ketua masyarakat dan pertubuhan agama Hindu?

“Sikap tidak hormat dan diskriminasi terhadap agama Hindu seperti ini tidak boleh diterima, lebih-lebih lagi apabila ia datang daripada pemimpin kerajaan yang diamanahkan untuk melindungi semua rakyat tanpa mengira kaum atau kepercayaan,” tegasnya pada satu kenyataan hari ini.

Dia turut mendesak kerajaan Perak untuk mengeluarkan kenyataan rasmi bagi mengesahkan komitmen dalam melayan semua agama secara adil dan saksama, seperti yang dijamin oleh Perlembagaan Persekutuan.

Link: https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/745431
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kasi full capacity dulu la kuil kuil lain tu. dah full capacity cannot cater, then build la new one.

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