somehow the front look so dated.. current CX-5 look more modern than this shiat
Masuda CX-60-RM200k, no new inline 6 engine kek
Masuda CX-60-RM200k, no new inline 6 engine kek
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Jun 6 2025, 04:46 PM
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somehow the front look so dated.. current CX-5 look more modern than this shiat
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Jun 6 2025, 04:51 PM
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Japan full of old ppl in big corp management , decision making too rigid , too old skol...
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Jun 6 2025, 04:52 PM
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People saying 2.5NA + 8 speed + RWD platform + CBU from Japan is expensive, remember how much the new Harrier is selling for? That is only 2.0NA + CVT. You can argue the engine is underpowered but there is nothing wrong with the price. Obviously when you compare with Chinese brands in terms of bang for buck confirm lose, but sometimes buying a car is looking beyond the spec sheet. Also conlanfirm this looks and feels much better inside compared to Harrier or CRV This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Jun 6 2025, 04:54 PM contagiouseddie liked this post
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Jun 6 2025, 04:55 PM
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12,413 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: KL - Cardiff - Subang - Sydney |
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Jun 6 2025, 04:55 PM
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Buy already, you can tell people you drive a XC60 which sounds more expensive. Then when you bring them to your car, you say oops I mean CX60.
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Jun 6 2025, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jun 6 2025, 04:52 PM) People saying 2.5NA + 8 speed + RWD platform + CBU from Japan is expensive, remember how much the new Harrier is selling for? That is only 2.0NA + CVT. Malaysia market has shown they don't want new engine You can argue the engine is underpowered but there is nothing wrong with the price. Obviously when you compare with Chinese brands in terms of bang for buck confirm lose, but sometimes buying a car is looking beyond the spec sheet. Also conlanfirm this looks and feels much better inside compared to Harrier or CRV Mazda cx8 2.5 NA sold most. Mazda 6 2.0 sold most, Mazda 3 1.5 sold most. basically the real ones buying are choosing smallest engine combo |
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Jun 6 2025, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jun 6 2025, 04:56 PM) Malaysia market has shown they don't want new engine there's no issues as long its enough for daily usageMazda cx8 2.5 NA sold most. Mazda 6 2.0 sold most, Mazda 3 1.5 sold most. basically the real ones buying are choosing smallest engine combo those who keep saying underpowered etc sounds like they are trying to race their cars in sepang every weekend |
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Jun 6 2025, 05:02 PM
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if 10years ago, we all ok with Harrier 2.4 NA isnt it ,
Today seems like not acceptable, used to be only rival is bmw / mercedes SUV. Today , we have China car for comparison, ppl change the way to view the product =/ Mazda & Toyota still old skol, for old skol market who still appreciate them. |
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Jun 6 2025, 05:03 PM
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KEK already predicted larr. Mahu bring 3.3 tu 280k u mau ka?
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Jun 6 2025, 05:03 PM
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Mazda cx-60 inline 6 engine option is 3.3L .
Nobody wants to pay RM2.1k roadtax a year for Semenanjung price. You look at rich Vellfire users , most ppl buy 2.5L engine despite so underpowered. V6 ones are minority. This post has been edited by k!nex: Jun 6 2025, 05:07 PM |
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Jun 6 2025, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(Jwang @ Jun 6 2025, 05:02 PM) if 10years ago, we all ok with Harrier 2.4 NA isnt it , NA engine still have its charm. Linear power depending on how much throttle you apply. No turbo lag and seldom any reliability issuesToday seems like not acceptable, used to be only rival is bmw / mercedes SUV. Today , we have China car for comparison, ppl change the way to view the product =/ Mazda & Toyota still old skol, for old skol market who still appreciate them. Jwang liked this post
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Jun 6 2025, 05:05 PM
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Yang complain ini semua bawa Bezza dengan Saga. Nak 6-inline lar, might as well ask for V12.
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Jun 6 2025, 05:09 PM
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only issue is not sure what they cut from the spec in order to achieve that pricing
hopefully they keep at least the active safety |
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Jun 6 2025, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jun 6 2025, 05:04 PM) NA engine still have its charm. Linear power depending on how much throttle you apply. No turbo lag and seldom any reliability issues That is because these ppl have not tried modern day downsized turbo engines that is initially popularized by Volkswagen. Once they feel the flat torque curve starting from low rpm , their opinion will change instantly. Turbo lag is hardly a thing for common passenger cars these days. Peak torque available below 2000rpm for petrol engines to 4000+ rpm. That is the range most ppl operate their engines. Turbo lag is a 90's thing and heavily modified engines. This post has been edited by k!nex: Jun 6 2025, 05:37 PM |
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Jun 6 2025, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jun 6 2025, 05:36 PM) That is because these ppl have not tried modern day downsized turbo engines that is initially popularized by Volkswagen. it still adds another layer of complexity. turbo engines run hotter which accelerates engine wear and oil degradation. there's no way around this. Once they feel the flat torque curve starting from low rpm , their opinion will change instantly. Turbo lag is hardly a thing for common passenger cars these days. Peak torque available below 2000rpm for petrol engines to 4000+ rpm. That is the range most ppl operate their engines. Turbo lag is a 90's thing and heavily modified engines. but of course its not gonna be an issue for someone who changes car every 5 - 7 years and maintains their car accordingly |
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Baik beli [insert chinese car here]
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jun 6 2025, 04:58 PM) there's no issues as long its enough for daily usage Actually, for Mazda 3, 1.5L engine for 1.4 tons car is really underpower. It's like driving a Mazda 2 with full passenger + luggage.those who keep saying underpowered etc sounds like they are trying to race their cars in sepang every weekend 2.5L for 2 tons car would be slightly sluggish, but not as bad as 1.5L Mazda 3. Only slightly worse than 2.0L CX-5. |
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Jun 6 2025, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jun 6 2025, 05:53 PM) Actually, for Mazda 3, 1.5L engine for 1.4 tons car is really underpower. It's like driving a Mazda 2 with full passenger + luggage. That one really underpower lah. The 1.5 is meant for Mazda 2 only. Mazda 3 needs the 2.0 at least. But if someone is stuck in traffic most of the time I reckon the 1.5 is still ok. Highway and uphill roads will be a struggle2.5L for 2 tons car would be slightly sluggish, but not as bad as 1.5L Mazda 3. Only slightly worse than 2.0L CX-5. For CX60 my main point was if people are ok with Harrier being 2.0 NA + CVT, then CX60 should be no issues with the 2.5 NA This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Jun 6 2025, 06:06 PM cfa28 liked this post
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jun 6 2025, 06:04 PM) That one really underpower lah. The 1.5 is meant for Mazda 2 only. Mazda 3 needs the 2.0 at least. But if someone is stuck in traffic most of the time I reckon the 1.5 is still ok. Highway and uphill roads will be a struggle Yes. Good option for town car.But town car at 120k is out of reach for most people. I was driving my CX-30 for 5 days when I went back to my hometown, then came back to Shah Ale and drove my Mazda 2, suddenly I missed the extra power. Can't imagine driving 1.5L Mazda 3 which has the similar curb weight as CX-30. |
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