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post Jun 3 2025, 10:18 PM, updated 7 months ago

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maybe that's why CCP minister of defense chose to absent from the summit



SG Defense minister: CCP needs to understand WHY the rest of the world fears CCP and feel disgusted with it





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post Jun 3 2025, 10:21 PM

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I mean CCP literally pissed off almost entire ASEAN members.........what exactly do they expect will happen?
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why they are so scared of China, China haven't even launch any war with Asia yet.

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SG defense minister "most nations are cheered over US commitment safeguarding the stability and peace of APAC ..."


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post Jun 3 2025, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Avex @ Jun 3 2025, 10:29 PM)
why they are so scared of China, China haven't even launch any war with Asia yet.
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If there is a person holding parang outside your house right at the public road, but not reaching nor touching your house compound yet, what do you feel about it?


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Both China and US should stay out of ASEAN, US keep fear mongering to ASEAN and ask us to buy more weapon, China keep threaten ASEAN with their own 9 dash line


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Takut apa? Water balloon missile, J10C shot down by India advanced Rafale jets, HQ9 useless, submarine sink in yangtze river, Fujian carrier cracked deck, somemore China steel weak like tofu. No need fear China la. Sure paper tiger relek la.

Forgot add untested military, China inflated population actually only 300mil now. More reasons not to fear China. Dunno you all scared what.

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QUOTE(Avex @ Jun 3 2025, 10:29 PM)
why they are so scared of China, China haven't even launch any war with Asia yet.
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The ultimate motive is asking ASEAN to buy more US weapon
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 3 2025, 10:32 PM)
If there is a person holding parang outside your house right at the public road, but not reaching nor touching your house compound yet, what do you feel about it?
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deswai you don't simply go up and mingle with crazy people, with everyday want to parang people. like your neighbour everyday roll with crazy folks deswai got that parang guy outside your house
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QUOTE(Avex @ Jun 3 2025, 10:47 PM)
deswai you don't simply go up and mingle with crazy people, with everyday want to parang people. like your neighbour everyday roll with crazy folks deswai got that parang guy outside your house
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Exactly what you said, we shouldn't mingle with crazy China, their coastguards park here and there want to parang people every day. They already parang off Philippines and recently swinging their parang at our Petronas oil rigs/resupply ships and local fishermen.

Action speaks louder than words, if they can parang Philippines, what make you think we will not be next?

Like you said, it is very hard to predict what will crazy people do. wink.gif
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 3 2025, 10:57 PM)
Exactly what you said, we shouldn't mingle with crazy China, their coastguards park here and there want to parang people every day. They already parang off Philippines and recently swinging their parang at our Petronas oil rigs/resupply ships and local fishermen.

Action speaks louder than words, if they can parang Philippines, what make you think we will not be next?

Like you said, it is very hard to predict what will crazy people do. wink.gif
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you shouldn't mingle with phillipines and murica, they are crazy. US creating war everywhere. no peace so far everywhere murica steps
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QUOTE(Avex @ Jun 3 2025, 10:59 PM)
you shouldn't mingle with phillipines and murica, they are crazy. US creating war everywhere. no peace so far everywhere murica steps
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True to US creating war everywhere. Too bad China also wanna follow US footstep. doh.gif

Untrue for poor phillipines though. The poor guy just want to fish at his own garden and suddenly got parang by China out of nowhere.
Now the same China tries to pull the same to other neighbours.

For time being, China is swinging the parang around and haven't hit Malaysia yet....although swinging actions are very dangerous to our people.
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Sino creating problem to Asean
Yet Anwar still intend to kowtowing to sino
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phillipines is pretty much a vassal state.
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 3 2025, 11:05 PM)
True to US creating war everywhere. Too bad China also wanna follow US footstep. doh.gif

Untrue for poor phillipines though. The poor guy just want to fish at his own garden and suddenly got parang by China out of nowhere.
Now the same China tries to pull the same to other neighbours.

For time being, China is swinging the parang around and haven't hit Malaysia yet....although swinging actions are very dangerous to our people.
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Phillipine busybody want to go after China's island and territories, they even dare to ram china maritime polis boat. Crazy phillipines following murica order using Parang. Why Phillipine wants to be murica dog
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QUOTE(Avex @ Jun 3 2025, 10:59 PM)
you shouldn't mingle with phillipines and murica, they are crazy. US creating war everywhere. no peace so far everywhere murica steps
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Didn't realize 9 dash line is US fault. New thing learnt today
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jun 3 2025, 10:18 PM)
maybe that's why CCP minister of defense chose to absent from the summit



SG Defense minister: CCP needs to understand WHY the rest of the world fears CCP and feel disgusted with it



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I like how ppl clap when Philippines defence minister call out CCP directly. He spoke very eloquently and very well.
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QUOTE(Avex @ Jun 3 2025, 11:14 PM)
Phillipine busybody want to go after China's island and territories, they even dare to ram china maritime polis boat. Crazy phillipines following murica order using Parang. Why Phillipine wants to be murica dog
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Since when entire SCS is China territories? blink.gif

Since when Philippine ram China coastguard? Evidence so far seems to show it is China coastguard doing the ramming until China CCTV broadcaster had to edit the footage.

The last time when the other Pro-China Philippine president won, the bullying got worse. Therefore your "murica dog" argument doesn't hold water.
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 3 2025, 10:21 PM)
I mean CCP literally pissed off almost entire ASEAN members.........what exactly do they expect will happen?
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i thought Msia and CCP is very good?
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QUOTE(Avex @ Jun 3 2025, 11:14 PM)
Phillipine busybody want to go after China's island and territories, they even dare to ram china maritime polis boat. Crazy phillipines following murica order using Parang. Why Phillipine wants to be murica dog
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u mean that small island just few km from Manila is belong to China?
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 3 2025, 11:24 PM)
i thought Msia and CCP is very good?
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Not really.

Under Akta Rahsia Rasmi 1972, I cannot say much nor give statement about it other than mentioning any officially published news.
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Deswai US cannot do anything to China as long as China doesn't do anything stupid, which is to hit out physically at its neighbors. But then, what is the frantic military build up all about? brows.gif

And can see clearly, China's neighbors do not like it. laugh.gif

If this is in a court of law, China will lose this case. 100% confirm.

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Jun 3 2025, 11:17 PM)
I like how ppl clap when Philippines defence minister call out CCP directly. He spoke very eloquently and very well.
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Yes, he deserves a standing ovation.
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 3 2025, 11:26 PM)
Not really.

Under Akta Rahsia Rasmi 1972, I cannot say much nor give statement about it other than mentioning any officially published news.
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Malaysia is always a maybe, try to maintain neutral as much as possible. But it's clear that ASEAN is slowly taking a stance, other than china scammers' good bros Myanmar and Cambodia anyway. Philippines has signed so many defence deals recently like with EU Japan NZ. Vietnam and Philippines also have pacts with US.

Our Five Powers agreement is still very active in exercises regularly, and is quite clear when we chose the KAI jets over China's that we are not going to align with them militarily.
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Jun 3 2025, 11:39 PM)
If this is in a court of law, China will lose this case. 100% confirm.
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Already lost. See the international tribunal case of Philippines v. China
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Jun 3 2025, 10:34 PM)
Takut apa? Water balloon missile, J10C shot down by India advanced Rafale jets, HQ9 useless, submarine sink in yangtze river, Fujian carrier cracked deck, somemore China steel weak like tofu. No need fear China la. Sure paper tiger relek la.

Forgot add untested military, China inflated population actually only 300mil now. More reasons not to fear China. Dunno you all scared what.
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Oh yeah, where did i saw that 300 million population, can't remember, i don't think it was gordon chang
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time for 51st states of usa Filipina to invade Spratly islands and reclaims Sabah 😁
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QUOTE(Avex @ Jun 3 2025, 10:29 PM)
why they are so scared of China, China haven't even launch any war with Asia yet.
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They have invaded every countries economically and killing some local biz as well as heavilty indebted some by offering them to buy things they cant afford like credit card company and ah long …
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Another China bashing thread LOL


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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 3 2025, 10:33 PM)
Both China and US should stay out of ASEAN, US keep fear mongering to ASEAN and ask us to buy more weapon, China keep threaten ASEAN with their own 9 dash line
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Bro, if that's the case then pirates will be infesting the water here
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 3 2025, 11:26 PM)
Not really.

Under Akta Rahsia Rasmi 1972, I cannot say much nor give statement about it other than mentioning any officially published news.
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anwar bukan shake hand with XJP?
ah loke give gift to xjp
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 3 2025, 10:21 PM)
I mean CCP literally pissed off almost entire ASEAN members.........what exactly do they expect will happen?
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malaysia, laos, cambodia, also pissed?
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QUOTE(Avex @ Jun 3 2025, 10:29 PM)
why they are so scared of China, China haven't even launch any war with Asia yet.
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well, they have been supporting the red empire in the past, even malaysia komunis, that is remote war already
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jun 3 2025, 10:18 PM)
maybe that's why CCP minister of defense chose to absent from the summit


SG Defense minister: CCP needs to understand WHY the rest of the world fears CCP and feel disgusted with it

singapore chooses to be US's dog like you .
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don't give a shit about peenoys. as far as i am concerned, this is the border of malaysia. those who don't agree can renounce their malaysian nationality and go lick xi jinping's ass.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Jun 3 2025, 11:59 PM)
Malaysia is always a maybe, try to maintain neutral as much as possible. But it's clear that ASEAN is slowly taking a stance, other than china scammers' good bros Myanmar and Cambodia anyway. Philippines has signed so many defence deals recently like with EU Japan NZ. Vietnam and Philippines also have pacts with US.

Our Five Powers agreement is still very active in exercises regularly, and is quite clear when we chose the KAI jets over China's that we are not going to align with them militarily.
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you forgot laos, which pretty much belongs to china these days.

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QUOTE(spursfan @ Jun 4 2025, 10:01 AM)
don't give a shit about peenoys. as far as i am concerned, this is the border of malaysia. those who don't agree can recnounce their malaysian nationality and go lick xi jinping's ass.
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you forgot laos, which pretty much belongs to china these days.
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Yeah, unfortunately Laos Cambodia Myanmar is the stumbling block in ASEAN. In 2016 when China lost the case in international UNCLOS tribunal ASEAN supposed to release joint statement support the decision, Malaysia foreign ministry actually released adi, then Cambodia want to retract.
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QUOTE(Avex @ Jun 3 2025, 10:29 PM)
why they are so scared of China, China haven't even launch any war with Asia yet.
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China is setting up military bases worldwide. How is it not to be afraid of?
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Talk Only kuat in dialogue.... after that everyone love china punya money and made in China stuff.....
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 3 2025, 11:26 PM)
Not really.

Under Akta Rahsia Rasmi 1972, I cannot say much nor give statement about it other than mentioning any officially published news.
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you seems to know things that most other people don't hmm.gif
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AMDK 1: jangan takut, CCP gonna collapse soon (same song for the last 2 decades).

AMDK 2: jangan takut, US datang bagi wang dan support

AMDK 3: takutnya~ CCP come threaten us with 9 dash lines

AMDK 4: confuse

then Indian come into the party, said they shoot down CCP pakistan fighter jet, jangan takut whistling.gif
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Beside the base in Djibouti, tell me about other (official) country/location that i didn't know?

Inb4, Djibouti = worldwide rclxms.gif

QUOTE(a_dot_el @ Jun 4 2025, 10:08 AM)
China is setting up military bases worldwide. How is it not to be afraid of?
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I would root for most of our ASEAN neighbours when it comes to defending their turf from China

Exception being scambodia and myanmar, may they both get steam rolled and the pinoys whos love to claim sabah, claim our pfizer vac and generally talk alot of smack. That one whoever wins i happy

And seeing the pinoy delegate it appears to be another case of talk alot but with nothing to backup.
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QUOTE(70U63 @ Jun 4 2025, 03:14 PM)
Beside the base in Djibouti, tell me about other (official) country/location that i didn't know?

Inb4, Djibouti = worldwide  rclxms.gif
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Djibouti is the officially recognized one. Others are unofficial, even near us, there are a few in the reclaimed atoll.
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Those are not in other ppl country la...
It might fall into other country EEZ, but EEZ is not considered as territory water. whistling.gif

QUOTE(a_dot_el @ Jun 4 2025, 03:26 PM)
Djibouti is the officially recognized one. Others are unofficial, even near us, there are a few in the reclaimed atoll.
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China already the no1 trading partner with all ASEAN countries, what can they do, stop trading n die?
There is no stopping China becoming stronger n stronger n there is nothing can be done.
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QUOTE(a_dot_el @ Jun 4 2025, 04:26 PM)
Djibouti is the officially recognized one. Others are unofficial, even near us, there are a few in the reclaimed atoll.
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Those are hardly near us lah

It's nearer to Philippines and Vietnam

That's why there are more skirmish between them

The nearest China island with an outpost to Malaysia is Taiping Island and it's controlled by ROC not PRC

A lot of people though China was the only one building bases in SCS but in reality the biggest threat to us is probably Vietnam as the have the most outpost in SCS

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US is cash trapped and the national debt is escalating. trump is asking for money from everyone. What US can do is selling weapons to anyone at huge profit.
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QUOTE(a_dot_el @ Jun 4 2025, 10:08 AM)
China is setting up military bases worldwide. How is it not to be afraid of?
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how many base?
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QUOTE(Avex @ Jun 4 2025, 07:36 PM)
how many base?
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The US military maintains a significant global presence, operating around 750 military bases in over 80 countries. US is financially stressed and overstretched .
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China has one overseas military base in Djibouti,located on the coast of the Horn of Africa. established in 2017.
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QUOTE(MGM @ Jun 4 2025, 05:56 PM)
China already the no1 trading partner with all ASEAN countries, what can they do, stop trading n die?
There is no stopping China becoming stronger n stronger n there is nothing can be done.
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you need to know, almost all ASEAN nations have trade surplus with US

and US remains top 3 FDI into Msia, creating endless job opportunities and supporting livelihood of many middle class households

meanwhile what does CCP contribute to the local economy? buying more musang kings and birdnest? exporting their chickens? robbing ricebowls from local Type-Cs?


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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jun 4 2025, 11:54 PM)
you need to know, almost all ASEAN nations have trade surplus with US

and US remains top 3 FDI into Msia, creating endless job opportunities and supporting livelihood of many middle class households

meanwhile what does CCP contribute to the local economy? buying more musang kings and birdnest? exporting their chickens? robbing ricebowls from local Type-Cs?
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KUALA LUMPUR, April 19 (Bernama) -- In the calculus of international trade, perception is power. Nowhere is this more evident than in the way the United States (US) calculates and presents its trade deficit.

Since the 1980s, successive American administrations have focused almost exclusively on merchandise trade -- exports and imports of tangible goods -- while quietly downplaying, if not outright excluding, the significant surplus the US enjoys in services and sales, especially in the Asia-Pacific region.

This selective accounting distorts the real economic balance, particularly with countries like Malaysia, and fuels false anxieties about the American decline.

More dangerously, it legitimises punitive tariffs and aggressive rhetoric that harm multilateral trade and undermine ASEAN’s regional stability. The omission of services is not merely a technical quirk -- it is a strategic blind spot with geopolitical consequences.

https://aei.um.edu.my/why-america-excludes-...d-spot-in-asia#
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Dogs barking when they think they're protected.

When the fighting starts, hope all the murican arselickers in ASEAN will perform their duty and lay their lives for their white master.

We eat popcorn je lah.
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CCP Dogs going to get their comeuppance.


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