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 Msians who worked in SG need to submit BE form?, Do you submit BE form every year?

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Hansel
post May 28 2025, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(customer2 @ May 28 2025, 08:34 AM)
I never go to money changer counter even once, but I do wire transaction from sg bank to msia bank randomly, for example 1K sgd, how they know. So, is that considered as a foreign source income? I am a tax resident of Singapore.
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In bold is not a good statement, bro,.... biggrin.gif

Legally,... if you have spare cash in your wallet since you travel up and down between SG and JB, this is more acceptable,....
Hansel
post May 28 2025, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(calodin @ May 28 2025, 08:07 AM)
If you never open account with LHDN (for those that started their career working overseas) then its ok, but since you have been declaring your income tax, you have to submit your income tax as 0, because you dont even have EA form from an employee mar.

if you don't then you will get into this trouble lor, now you have to go to LHDN and give them official documents to proof that you are now working in Singapore and no longer a tax resident in Malaysia. As Singapore and Malaysia has signed the double taxation treaty, then you pay income tax in Singapore already, no need to pay income tax in Malaysia.

One of the good things about this is that,,,,if govt give out any money (example BR1M or some Madani thingy) when you declare 0 income, you entitled to get the money also, how I know...because last time i declared 0 income cos I was working in China,,,,i got BR1M also.
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In bold above is more acceptable, because there is no reference for LHDN to impose penalty on. A file has never been started because the individual has never worked in Msia before. But I think,... if this individual starts to send money back to a Msian bank account, this will be remittance,... and other steps need to be fulfilled.

But then,... if the same individual uses a foreign credit card to pay for his expenses in Msia, then that is NOT a remittance. No further steps required.
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post May 29 2025, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ May 29 2025, 10:03 AM)
Malaysia dont have double tax, if your income is oversea, not credited into Malaysia bank account, no salary slip, no company, no epf, no need to worry.

Just need to send the proof working in Singapore and pay taxes in Singapore

Thus, no tax resident. Tax resident and Malaysian tax is your income that is in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ May 29 2025, 10:04 AM)
JB just across Singapore, please make your way to LDHN in JB, faster and easier
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A few scenarios here :-

Using cuddly's statements,...........

(a) if your income is oversea, not credited into Malaysia bank account, no salary slip, no company, no epf, & added : no coming back to Msia regularly, ie not staying in JB AND never having opened LHDN File previously - NO PROBLEM. But,........ again, IF LHDN sends a letter to the parents' hse, then some explaining needs to be done to clear the matter and not to raise a file.

(b) if your income in oversea, not credited into Malaysia bank account, no salary slip, no company, no epf, & added : staying in JB, appoint a tax consultant. Follow his advice.

© if your income in oversea, no salary slip, no company, no epf, & added : partially or fully credited into Malaysia bank account, fill-in the e-BE Form properly.

Above are the only scenarios I can think of till now,....

OK,.. I shld add something to part © above : if you do not have a BE or an e-BE sent to you in hardcopy form or emailed to you by LHDN, and you have NEVER filed a BE Form nor an e-BE Form previously in life, then see part (a).

This post has been edited by Hansel: May 29 2025, 04:47 PM
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post May 29 2025, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(customer2 @ May 28 2025, 11:21 PM)
I am tax resident of Singapore. I stay in Singapore since day 0. I don't have income in Malaysia, hence if I am required to file e-BE form, I would put "0" in every section or I need LHDN to suspend/pause my tax account temporary just like everyone mentioned here, so I dont have to do income tax e-filing every year just to put everything "0".
So what will you do now? pay the tax and penalty or ignore it? I have emailed lhdn under enquiry section because I cannot reach my state lhdnm extensions or general hotline through phonecall.
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If I read your earlier input correctly, the problem here is : you had income once in Malaysia, have started a file and paid tax thumbsup.gif , but, today you have no more income in Malaysia and you don't stay in Malaysia anymore.

You will need to find a way to close this file properly. You are not a resident anymore, hence, you do not need to file anything anymore, not even the funds that you remit back to Malaysia into a bank account under your own name. But, it's better if you shld send any funds back to Malaysia, send it to another name whom you can trust.

Emm,... the mistake here is : there was no follow-up in filing tax declarations, and this caused the estimation and penalty to kick-in.

I told my children not to start any income-generating activities at all in Malaysia, not stay in Malaysia at all and not to start a file at all. But,..... if LHDN does come knocking on my door one of these days, I will still need to explain everything to them.

 

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