As per title, do you submit BE form and declare income as 0 every year from year 1 till xxxx?
I started working in sg since end of 2022 and I didnt submit 2023 BE form nor 2024 BE form. I have submitted 2022 BE form and paid the tax in March 2023, that is all.

Today, I received a letter from lhdn, ask me to pay 2023 income tax that was calculated automatically (2022 total income + 10%) and another penalty fee for not submitting and declare tax.

From Reddit: you need to inform LDHN/submit a form that you are working overseas so don't have file BE form every year and declare 0 income. Is it true ?

This post has been edited by customer2: May 28 2025, 07:58 AM

This year tax is based on your last year earning income

If you never open account with LHDN (for those that started their career working overseas) then its ok, but since you have been declaring your income tax, you have to submit your income tax as 0, because you dont even have EA form from an employee mar.

if you don't then you will get into this trouble lor, now you have to go to LHDN and give them official documents to proof that you are now working in Singapore and no longer a tax resident in Malaysia. As Singapore and Malaysia has signed the double taxation treaty, then you pay income tax in Singapore already, no need to pay income tax in Malaysia.

One of the good things about this is that,,,,if govt give out any money (example BR1M or some Madani thingy) when you declare 0 income, you entitled to get the money also, how I know...because last time i declared 0 income cos I was working in China,,,,i got BR1M also.

I have 0 income in Malaysia in 2023. I paid SG tax and reside in SG.
I didnt submit 2023 BE form so lhdn help me calculate as 2022 income +10% for 2023 tax.

But did you transfer the money to Malaysia?
1 January 2022, the blanket exemption on FSI has been removed. Consequently, FSI received in Malaysia by a tax resident from outside Malaysia is now taxable in Malaysia, unless the specific conditions for exemptions are met.

I never go to money changer counter even once, but I do wire transaction from sg bank to msia bank randomly, for example 1K sgd, how they know. So, is that considered as a foreign source income? I am a tax resident of Singapore.

This post has been edited by customer2: May 28 2025, 08:41 AM

This post has been edited by customer2: May 28 2025, 08:40 AM

You needed to inform your previous HR that you were leaving M'sia when you resigned. They would've then filled up a form (sort of like an estimate EA form) and submit to LHDN. LHDN would then do a mini audit to make sure your past taxes are in order and instruct you to file BE normally the next year. After that, don't need to do anymore.

Curious, do you stay in SG or JB?

My whole house kena 2023 tax and penalty letter. We are a pair of husband and wife working and residing in SG since end of 2022. My wife and I were based in Penang and they are based in JB. We never submitted 2023 e-BE form.

no income also just submit lor so that you don't get with things like this.

submit income 0 every year if not stay in Malaysia as you are still Malaysian citizen.
unless you stay in malaysia exceeding 6 months, you dont have to pay income tax.

unless you bring the cash back, you dont have to pay tax.
of kos....u curi curi bring back few k every month and dont make crazy purchases....no one will know

I guess you'll need to appeal with supporting docs that you've left the country then. Best seek professional advice on what to expect. Hope you did your taxes properly and kept your receipts.

this is true

The letterhead is April but only received the letter in May, only left few weeks notice to pay, after due date increased by 10%. So, my wife panicked and paid ldhn auto calculated 2023 tax and penalty fee. Hope that we can at least get back our money and just pay the penalty fee to government.

This post has been edited by customer2: May 28 2025, 10:07 AM

You need to pay your home lhdn office a visit. Bring the notice and your IRAS NOA with you.

This post has been edited by jojolicia: May 28 2025, 10:19 AM

need to bro.. I was slapped with rm30k tax for the year of 2022 alone. received the letter only in 2024. lol.

last month I fill in the LHDN appeal form with my iras tax documents. until now no news yet. lol

LHDN is the most celaka department. If you want to move overseas, best to go to LHDN to close your tax account and inform them that you are going to stop working here. And also get a response from them, best to be written or some form of acknowledgement.

Otherwise they will just slap whatever penalty they like. This is what happened to you now. This is speaking from experience.

Just happened to see this thread and login to my LHDN account and voila i saw mine as well.

Also started working towards end of 2022 in SG so i did declare and paid for Year 2022. However from 2023 and 2024 i declare in SG and only pay SG tax.

This post has been edited by year2020: May 28 2025, 12:37 PM

Also need to work out if you’re still Msian tax resident (BE) or non-resident (M).

Rates are different.

u need to consult a tax specialist for this
country tax you based on ur tax residency
if u stay more than 6 months in msia in a year, you are a malaysian tax resident
but since u live in jb and work in sg, u commute everyday is it?
this is where im blur blur as well, coz technically ur a tax resident of malaysia so u should be paying msian tax
i dont think sg even tax u at all since u cant contribute to their cpf unless pr right?

In bold is not a good statement, bro,....

Legally,... if you have spare cash in your wallet since you travel up and down between SG and JB, this is more acceptable,....

In bold above is more acceptable, because there is no reference for LHDN to impose penalty on. A file has never been started because the individual has never worked in Msia before. But I think,... if this individual starts to send money back to a Msian bank account, this will be remittance,... and other steps need to be fulfilled.

But then,... if the same individual uses a foreign credit card to pay for his expenses in Msia, then that is NOT a remittance. No further steps required.

This statement is very wrong. The employer is in Singapore, he is working in Singapore, it is only reasonable that he pays income tax to Singapore government even if he travels between Malaysia and Singapore daily.
There is a DTA (Double Taxation Agreement) between Malaysia and Singapore. It is to prevent people and businesses from being taxed twice on the same income. CPF is KWSP in Malaysia. It has nothing to do with Tax (LHDN).

TS just needs to show the IRAS statement to LHDN that he already paid the tax to Singapore government, then the case should be settled.

I am tax resident of Singapore. I stay in Singapore since day 0. I don't have income in Malaysia, hence if I am required to file e-BE form, I would put "0" in every section or I need LHDN to suspend/pause my tax account temporary just like everyone mentioned here, so I dont have to do income tax e-filing every year just to put everything "0".


So what will you do now? pay the tax and penalty or ignore it? I have emailed lhdn under enquiry section because I cannot reach my state lhdnm extensions or general hotline through phonecall.

This post has been edited by customer2: May 28 2025, 11:37 PM

Thanks to lackadaisical way of giving out goodies. Some ppl have the mind to curse those that try to better manage it.

Fools!

Malaysia dont have double tax, if your income is oversea, not credited into Malaysia bank account, no salary slip, no company, no epf, no need to worry.

Just need to send the proof working in Singapore and pay taxes in Singapore

Thus, no tax resident. Tax resident and Malaysian tax is your income that is in Malaysia.

JB just across Singapore, please make your way to LDHN in JB, faster and easier

A few scenarios here :-

Using cuddly's statements,...........

(a) if your income is oversea, not credited into Malaysia bank account, no salary slip, no company, no epf, & added : no coming back to Msia regularly, ie not staying in JB AND never having opened LHDN File previously - NO PROBLEM. But,........ again, IF LHDN sends a letter to the parents' hse, then some explaining needs to be done to clear the matter and not to raise a file.

(b) if your income in oversea, not credited into Malaysia bank account, no salary slip, no company, no epf, & added : staying in JB, appoint a tax consultant. Follow his advice.

© if your income in oversea, no salary slip, no company, no epf, & added : partially or fully credited into Malaysia bank account, fill-in the e-BE Form properly.

Above are the only scenarios I can think of till now,....

OK,.. I shld add something to part © above : if you do not have a BE or an e-BE sent to you in hardcopy form or emailed to you by LHDN, and you have NEVER filed a BE Form nor an e-BE Form previously in life, then see part (a).

This post has been edited by Hansel: May 29 2025, 04:47 PM

If I read your earlier input correctly, the problem here is : you had income once in Malaysia, have started a file and paid tax , but, today you have no more income in Malaysia and you don't stay in Malaysia anymore.

You will need to find a way to close this file properly. You are not a resident anymore, hence, you do not need to file anything anymore, not even the funds that you remit back to Malaysia into a bank account under your own name. But, it's better if you shld send any funds back to Malaysia, send it to another name whom you can trust.

Emm,... the mistake here is : there was no follow-up in filing tax declarations, and this caused the estimation and penalty to kick-in.

I told my children not to start any income-generating activities at all in Malaysia, not stay in Malaysia at all and not to start a file at all. But,..... if LHDN does come knocking on my door one of these days, I will still need to explain everything to them.

If your kids are raised overseas, 99% wont come back live, stay or retire in Msia lah. No attachment and its just fathers kampung.


Like how we see Chua lah, grand father from there. So wat ? Does it motivate you to stay, work or retire in China?

I dont think so. I log ticket for general enquiry in LHDN wesbite, they respond on next day. They ask me to contact LHDNM Penang customer care.

This post has been edited by customer2: May 30 2025, 07:28 PM

duplicate

This post has been edited by customer2: May 30 2025, 07:29 PM

its actually lazy way to do it (not legal too)
correct way is to fill BE form, in income section,
fill in income as 0
then
fill in "TAX EXEMPT INCOME FROM SOURCES OUTSIDE MALAYSIA RECEIVED IN MALAYSIA"
because even if your salary paid in SG acc, you still brought it into Msia
in the end, tax paid is still RM0

unless u say u nvr brought the money in, money stay in SG, spent in SG.
take supporting documents, then go LHDN to settle
such as:
Payslips,
Singapore tax assessments (e.g., IRAS Notice of Assessment),
Proof of remittance (if applicable).






edit: just remembered, the method you found from Reddit is it telling you to close your LHDN account? that would exempt your yearly tax declaration.

This post has been edited by jmas: May 30 2025, 09:31 PM