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post May 27 2025, 10:52 AM, updated 7 months ago

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Hello, looking for a good mouthwash that combats against general bad breath / gum care and the other sort, I was looking at Oral b 7 benefit mouthwash, but seems like the whole malaysia is out of stock, any recommendations similar to oral b is appreciated. biggrin.gif
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post May 27 2025, 11:08 AM

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I like Oral B the normal blue mint one.
usually get online from shopee its much more cheaper.
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post May 27 2025, 11:12 AM

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why not listerine? no need to overcomplicate things. lots of generic darlie / colgate out there as well that does the same job
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post May 27 2025, 11:17 AM

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Prefer listerine. Oral B tends to be foamy when you gargle
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QUOTE(Sotsotzaii @ May 27 2025, 11:52 AM)
Hello, looking for a good mouthwash that combats against general bad breath / gum care and the other sort, I was looking at Oral b 7 benefit mouthwash, but seems like the whole malaysia is out of stock, any recommendations similar to oral b is appreciated.  biggrin.gif
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mouthwash is bad for general health . Its all chemicals .. Avoid.
.plus kill the good bacteria needed for health.

brush your teeth , scraps tongue is good enough.
do your research to learn more.




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post May 27 2025, 11:55 AM

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Actually no need mouthwash

Just regularly brushing your teeth is sufficient
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post May 27 2025, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(Momo33 @ May 27 2025, 11:51 AM)
mouthwash  is bad for general health .  Its all chemicals .. Avoid. 
.plus  kill the good bacteria  needed for health.

brush your teeth , scraps tongue is good enough.
do your research  to learn more.
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brushing n scraps tongue depend on technique . if poor technique then must be accompanied with mouthwash to kill those hard to reach bacteria residing that will cause cavities.

u even missed out flossing.

kek don't give misinformation la .
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post May 27 2025, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(Sotsotzaii @ May 27 2025, 10:52 AM)
Hello, looking for a good mouthwash that combats against general bad breath / gum care and the other sort, I was looking at Oral b 7 benefit mouthwash, but seems like the whole malaysia is out of stock, any recommendations similar to oral b is appreciated.  biggrin.gif
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dentist recommended Oradex
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post May 27 2025, 12:03 PM

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i use this. packaging slightly diff already but still purple colour

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brush teeth and floss enough , natural is better..... drink fruit juice
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post May 27 2025, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ May 27 2025, 12:56 PM)
brushing n scraps tongue depend on technique . if poor technique then must be accompanied with mouthwash to kill those hard to reach bacteria residing that will cause cavities.

u even missed out flossing.

kek don't  give misinformation la .
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i guess you need do your research . nod.gif

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7125030/

OVER-THE-COUNTER MOUTHWASH USE, NITRIC OXIDE AND HYPERTENSION RISK
study says it cause hbp in this study

Google Ai say .

Mouthwash may also contain synthetic ingredients that have been linked to an increased risk of certain cancers. A 2016 study concluded that people who regularly use mouthwash may have a slightly elevated risk of head and neck cancers than people who never used mouthwash.4 Aug 2021


Diabetes risk increased by 55 percent
The scientists came to their intriguing findings by analyzing the data of 1,206 overweight or obese adults aged 40–65. All adults were part of the San Juan Overweight Adults Longitudinal Study, and they were free of diabetes and major cardiovascular diseases at study baseline.

As part of the study, participants were asked how often they used mouthwash. A total of 43 percent of the subjects said that they used mouthwash at least once daily, while 22 percent said that they used it at least twice daily.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/3...d-by-55-percent



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post May 27 2025, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Momo33 @ May 27 2025, 12:10 PM)
i guess you need do your research .  nod.gif

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7125030/

OVER-THE-COUNTER MOUTHWASH USE, NITRIC OXIDE AND HYPERTENSION RISK
study  says it cause  hbp  in this study

Google Ai say .

Mouthwash may also contain synthetic ingredients that have been linked to an increased risk of certain cancers. A 2016 study concluded that people who regularly use mouthwash may have a slightly elevated risk of head and neck cancers than people who never used mouthwash.4 Aug 2021
Diabetes risk increased by 55 percent
The scientists came to their intriguing findings by analyzing the data of 1,206 overweight or obese adults aged 40–65. All adults were part of the San Juan Overweight Adults Longitudinal Study, and they were free of diabetes and major cardiovascular diseases at study baseline.

As part of the study, participants were asked how often they used mouthwash. A total of 43 percent of the subjects said that they used mouthwash at least once daily, while 22 percent said that they used it at least twice daily.   
      https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/3...d-by-55-percent
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"A major limitation is that we cannot establish causality in this observational study. "

btw be my guest, u want to risk lose teeth due to cavity , or sked of hypertension risk which are not even proven directly

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post May 27 2025, 02:09 PM

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i used to use colgate plax green tea flavour

nowadays to save money I just get the generic Watson branded mouthwash. Seems to work the same anyway
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QUOTE(Momo33 @ May 27 2025, 11:51 AM)
mouthwash  is bad for general health .  Its all chemicals .. Avoid. 
.plus  kill the good bacteria  needed for health.

brush your teeth , scraps tongue is good enough.
do your research  to learn more.
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alternative would be baking soda + water
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I use Listerine mild taste version. The normal version is too strong and stinging for me.
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Any will do. What many do wrong is the routine. You should actually mouthwash and floss before brushing. Think about it the first 2 steps is the hard cleaning to remove the gunk, after it's cleared then the toothpaste can work best. Also stop rinsing your mouth after, the toothpaste take time to set in, around 10-30 mins. Remove the excess foam on your outer mouth with water if you have
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Btw personally I don't do mouthwash though. Only floss and brush. Another routine I do is oil pulling, this one for teeth whitening
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ May 27 2025, 11:59 AM)
dentist recommended Oradex
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This. The blue color one
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use watson brand, buy 1 free 1 with member
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go see dentist for cleaning every 6 months la. If everytime cuci also staining and tartar berlambak means ur brushing got problem.

Also fix your mouth breathing problem. Clean your house, your room do light exercise. Learn to keep proper tongue resting position and breath through your nose.

Mouth wash is one of the biggest scam industry. Second only to bottled drinking water.
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post May 27 2025, 04:32 PM

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Oral antibacterial mouthwash kills oral bacgeria that produce nitric oxide. There is scientific proof that this oral microbiome helps reduce blood pressure.

Hygiene hypothesis is real. We can see the effects now from the mindsetting that all bacteria do harm to our body.

This post has been edited by fist_Aileron: May 27 2025, 04:33 PM
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post May 27 2025, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(Momo33 @ May 27 2025, 11:51 AM)
mouthwash  is bad for general health .  Its all chemicals .. Avoid. 
.plus  kill the good bacteria  needed for health.

brush your teeth , scraps tongue is good enough.
do your research  to learn more.
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Toothpaste isn't?

What thing in nature I squeeze for this white or green paste?
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post May 27 2025, 06:12 PM

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Oral B mouthwash
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Listerine, oral b and watson brand
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QUOTE(Sotsotzaii @ May 27 2025, 10:52 AM)
Hello, looking for a good mouthwash that combats against general bad breath / gum care and the other sort, I was looking at Oral b 7 benefit mouthwash, but seems like the whole malaysia is out of stock, any recommendations similar to oral b is appreciated.  biggrin.gif
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Mouthwash can make you ED and hypertension
Better use natural like swish with coconut oil
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ May 27 2025, 11:59 AM)
dentist recommended Oradex
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yup, this
also the less irritating and no weird smell (for me)

but then recently I started using the Darlie double action toothpaste+mouthwash, not bad
cannot directly replace oradex, but not bad
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post May 28 2025, 07:49 AM

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Mouthwash is crucial if one is regularly engsging in DATY activities.
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Many dentists said prolong use will stain your teeth yellow so be cautious.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ May 27 2025, 02:10 PM)
alternative would be baking soda + water
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QUOTE(ulet @ May 27 2025, 09:30 PM)
Mouthwash can make you ED and hypertension
Better use natural like swish with coconut oil
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Yupyup
Also xylitol
Turmeric paste
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QUOTE(jmas @ May 27 2025, 11:10 PM)
yup, this
also the less irritating and no weird smell (for me)

but then recently I started using the Darlie double action toothpaste+mouthwash, not bad
cannot directly replace oradex, but not bad
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Yea darlie also good
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post May 29 2025, 01:56 PM

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should avoid any mouthwash that contains alcohol base like listerine

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QUOTE(Sotsotzaii @ May 27 2025, 10:52 AM)
Hello, looking for a good mouthwash that combats against general bad breath / gum care and the other sort, I was looking at Oral b 7 benefit mouthwash, but seems like the whole malaysia is out of stock, any recommendations similar to oral b is appreciated.  biggrin.gif
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I used to have bad breath long time ago but this is what I use.
Regular brushing, I mix toothpaste with salt.
I finish it off with a homemade mouthwash, I use 3% hydrogen peroxide dilute it with water and a generous amount of salt. Do this everyday for a week, I guaranteed your bad breath goes away immediately lol. I can fast without worrying my breath smelling bad, there's not even a morning breath too.

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From what I know bad breath can't be cured, but you can control your diet to reduce the smell. Or just brushing your teeth all the time with lots of toothpaste
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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 1 2025, 07:41 AM)
From what I know bad breath can't be cured, but you can control your diet to reduce the smell. Or just brushing your teeth all the time with lots of toothpaste
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Just brush your mouth regularly plus use mouthwash, settle 🥸
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QUOTE(Ayer @ May 27 2025, 02:23 PM)
Any will do. What many do wrong is the routine. You should actually mouthwash and floss before brushing. Think about it the first 2 steps is the hard cleaning to remove the gunk, after it's cleared then the toothpaste can work best. Also stop rinsing your mouth after, the toothpaste take time to set in, around 10-30 mins. Remove the excess foam on your outer mouth with water if you have
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Not rinsing your mouth after brushing? Are you serious?
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QUOTE(raymondwong1808 @ Jun 3 2025, 11:13 AM)
Not rinsing your mouth after brushing? Are you serious?
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If you want the optimal result yes. Spit out the excess but dont go for rinsing right after brushing
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QUOTE(raymondwong1808 @ Jun 3 2025, 11:13 AM)
Not rinsing your mouth after brushing? Are you serious?
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Jun 3 2025, 02:27 PM)
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Never know that before 😌
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Just spit. No need to flush it all out.
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QUOTE(adamhzm90 @ Jun 3 2025, 02:50 PM)
Just spit. No need to flush it all out.
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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ May 27 2025, 05:32 PM)
Oral antibacterial mouthwash kills oral bacgeria that produce nitric oxide. There is scientific proof that this oral microbiome helps reduce blood pressure.

Hygiene hypothesis is real. We can see the effects now from the mindsetting that all bacteria do harm to our body.
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Adding to your post .. nod.gif

Your body produces Nitric Oxide every day.
It opens up your blood vessels, delivering oxygen to your brain and heart.
By age 40, your nitric oxide levels can drop by 50%.
Without enough Nitric Oxide, blood flow slows, and your heart age faster.

Improve nitric oxide (NO) levels
NO is the key molecule for vascular health.
Boost it by:
• Eating more beets, arugula, and pomegranate
• Stop mouthwash (kills NO-producing bacteria in mouth ) nod.gif


Nitric oxide helps protect the endothelium, the layer of cells that line the blood vessels. Too little nitric oxide can lead to a condition called endothelial dysfunction. It damages the cells and increases risk of cardiovascular disease.

Above info using G Ai .

Conclusion... Avoid Mouthwash





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QUOTE(Momo33 @ Jun 12 2025, 10:50 AM)
Adding to your post .. nod.gif

Your body produces Nitric Oxide every day.
It opens up your blood vessels, delivering oxygen to your brain and heart.
By age 40, your nitric oxide levels can drop by 50%.
Without enough Nitric Oxide, blood flow slows, and your heart age faster.

Improve nitric oxide (NO) levels
NO is the key molecule for vascular health.
Boost it by:
• Eating more beets, arugula, and pomegranate
• Stop mouthwash (kills NO-producing bacteria  in mouth )    nod.gif
Nitric oxide helps protect the endothelium, the layer of cells that line the blood vessels. Too little nitric oxide can lead to a condition called endothelial dysfunction. It damages the cells and increases risk of cardiovascular disease.

Above info using G Ai .

Conclusion...    Avoid  Mouthwash
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Exercise,especially strength resistance training fasting، also increases NO. So does herbs like tongkat ali ، arginine، citruline, red meat also increases NO. If you want to go aggressive, go to some wellness clinic they can do EECP. It works by introducing shearing force to your blood vessels wall that stimulate NO production. It's also call natural bypass. It creates new blood vessels that bypass your clogged arteries. Quite cool if you have some money to splurge on health. It's worth it if you are damn lazy tor too buzy to exercise.. although cannot replace exercise benefit totally lar
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Not sure if this is available in Malaysia because it is considered a bit on the expensive side, but this is definitely better than your average Listerine or other mouthwash. Plus point is alcohol free.

https://www.thebreathco.eu/en/

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Listerine - Best

Oral B, Colgate - Good

Darlie, Guardian home brand, Watsons home brand - Okay okay only

This is what I bought last time and the brand that easily get at the drugstore or supermarket
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there was once i bought sensodyne brand. after terus discon liao
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ May 27 2025, 11:59 AM)
dentist recommended Oradex
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This will stain teeth. They then can charge for cleaning.
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QUOTE(Alternate Gabriel @ Jun 15 2025, 11:58 AM)
Listerine - Best

Oral B, Colgate - Good

Darlie, Guardian home brand, Watsons home brand - Okay okay only

This is what I bought last time and the brand that easily get at the drugstore or supermarket
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I only use darlie toothpaste but darlie mouthwash is not good. Colgate is better. Listerine burn so bad.
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QUOTE(jimmyktp @ Jun 15 2025, 02:09 AM)
Not sure if this is available in Malaysia because it is considered a bit on the expensive side, but this is definitely better than your average Listerine or other mouthwash. Plus point is alcohol free.

https://www.thebreathco.eu/en/

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i used it before, but it didn’t give the feeling that it did anything in my mouth, maybe because the effect was too mild?
i setel with Smile brand, suggested by my dentist and AA pharmacist


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Im using colgate, good enough.
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scaling doesnt help?

used to buy this and that

then bought amway's mouth spray

end up just do scaling, bad breath gone, but it's still there if i stay up late
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QUOTE(xHj09 @ Jul 22 2025, 10:01 AM)
scaling doesnt help?

used to buy this and that

then bought amway's mouth spray

end up just do scaling, bad breath gone, but it's still there if i stay up late
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Bad breath usually link to oral hygiene. Not something that require mouth wash Listerine etc. If you keep your teeth clean and no food stuck between teeth but still has bad breath, it can be something else related to your health. Can read link below.

https://www.drstevenlin.com/types-of-bad-breath-and-causes/
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QUOTE(Sotsotzaii @ May 27 2025, 11:52 AM)
Hello, looking for a good mouthwash that combats against general bad breath / gum care and the other sort, I was looking at Oral b 7 benefit mouthwash, but seems like the whole malaysia is out of stock, any recommendations similar to oral b is appreciated.  biggrin.gif
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I know what youre going through and trust me on this- i stopped using all toothpaste which is in the market and i only use 1 product-

BAKING SODA POWDER- yes- baking soda powder- i use this apply on the toothbrush and brush.

Totally no more bad breath= and my teeth looks clean and whiter.


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