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 BYD Malaysia buys back faulty Atto3

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ozak
post May 27 2025, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ May 26 2025, 05:38 PM)
I believe the main issue is not about the buy back, but how many cars are still there on the road with faulty sensor. So it’s gonna be a recall? Or there is no way to detect it?

Human lives can gone anytime with this kind of sudden braking at high speed.
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The main issue is the car programming how the car react and action when it receives the signal from the sensor. Faulty or not.

In this case, the programming is bad and not mature. The car wasn't fully tested in all situations.

All this Atto car need to be recalled to change the firmware. Otherwise, all this Atto is like time bomb on the road.

The buy back is because the owner has no confidence in the car. And this experience is a phobia for him. I guess he will sell if not buy back.
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post May 27 2025, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 27 2025, 03:41 PM)
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Fyi, .......

Gemini AI Overview

Yes, a weak 12V battery can potentially cause door sensors to fail or malfunction. Sensors rely on a consistent and adequate voltage supply to operate correctly. If the battery is weak or failing, it may not provide the necessary voltage for the door sensor to function properly.

Here's why a weak battery can affect door sensors:
- Insufficient Voltage:
Sensors require a specific voltage to operate. A weak battery may not provide enough power, leading to unreliable or inaccurate readings from the sensor.
- Intermittent Operation:
Even if the battery isn't completely dead, it might fluctuate in voltage, causing the sensor to operate intermittently or incorrectly.
- System Malfunction:
A weak battery can also affect other vehicle systems, including the car's computer, which might influence the operation of the door sensors.
- Other Factors:
While a weak battery is a common cause, other factors like wiring issues, sensor failures, or problems with the vehicle's computer can also contribute to sensor problems.

If you're experiencing issues with your car's door sensors, it's always a good idea to have your battery checked and ensure it's providing the necessary voltage. 

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Do a door sensor need to be that sophisticated? What the door sensor use for?

1) door sensor can be just a contact switch. An On/Off signal to the ECU. No electronic require inside. Keep it simple, cheap and failsafe.

2) If there require some crazy electronic stuff inside the switch, the circuit can be design to take wide range of voltage. 10-14.4v is enough to operate and tackle the low/high voltage of the battery. Battery don't drop dead till 0v.


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post May 27 2025, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ May 27 2025, 07:13 PM)
ECU and all are regulated.. the buck regulator or power supply are all designed to expect fluctuations in the 12V.
That's why when I read the AI generated answers , I already know it is rambling on something that they don't know about.

https://industrial.panasonic.com/ww/ss/technical/b13
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Yes, those AI are BS.

ECU can run at very low voltage. Microprocessor can run at 3.3v. This is aslo a safety for a car where if battery drop to lowest 10.5v, the ECU still function and execute the safety necessary for the car. Even other component not function properly.


QUOTE(skywardsword @ May 27 2025, 07:26 PM)
Door sensor maybe 'not so complex ' part of the system.

However, if it is used in conjunction with, Anti-roll away car function. The feedback loop have one more un-relenting output, which is put on the Electronic Parking brake.

Further complexity in the loop, the car also detects the blind spot of the side of the door, being opened (if driver side, it will again give verbal warning) some others have intact, experience automatic braking because the car detected some object in blind spot, meaning the rear guard rail can also play a part in this particular situation.

Therefore if the sensor is giving bad data, and the car reacted to it by applying parking brake... It is an extraordinary situation where by, either, just let the car roll, which is what usually happens, our car with M6 as the car is rolling and door is not properly closed, the car does not pop the Parking brake, but add in another seat belt sensor, when it detects you remove the belt, it will pop the Parking brake.
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I want to know, what the door sensor signal is giving to the ECU?

A simple ON/OFF (Open/close door) signal. If in this, a simple door switch is enough. Even 10mv also can run the switch. Cause it doesn’t require power.

If the door require multi signal input, than sensor is required. So what multi input signal the door need to generate. beside just open/close?

The rest what you said, is the ECU process the signal from the door input.

 

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