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 BYD Malaysia buys back faulty Atto3

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trusol
post May 26 2025, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(RGRaj @ May 26 2025, 06:42 PM)
The manufacture can program the vehicle to shut down in any manner if any sensor is faulty. Whether that's a logical step is another issue.
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Detection of a faulty sensor is impossible if there is only one sensor.

If a door is truly suddenly opened when driving then shutting down is a legitimate way to save the passenger. I think they should have 2 door sensors for each door instead of one.


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post May 26 2025, 06:48 PM

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But why buy back if can replace the faulty sensor?
kelvinlym
post May 26 2025, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 26 2025, 06:00 PM)
Is this ISO requirement applicable in China?
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Even if not applicable, if they want to sell internationally, they have to conform.
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post May 26 2025, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ May 26 2025, 06:43 PM)
Not bad, atleast byd buys back
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Cukur. Now we know that the distributor will offer buy back immediately got door sensor problem.
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post May 26 2025, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(Selectt @ May 26 2025, 06:46 PM)
jgn jgn, other ev also do this same stunt lol
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post May 26 2025, 06:51 PM

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Gila la wei. Conti even engine meletop pon you can replace the engine only.

No need to scrap the whole car lol.
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post May 26 2025, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ May 26 2025, 06:48 PM)
But why buy back if can replace the faulty sensor?
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It is so dangerous that replacing the faulty sensor does not cut it but must buy back for safety reasons.
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post May 26 2025, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ May 26 2025, 06:48 PM)
But why buy back if can replace the faulty sensor?
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because it is not just faulty sensor? Suck Dick wants to bb coz wants to hide further error by Bei Yan Diu?
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post May 26 2025, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(trusol @ May 26 2025, 06:48 PM)
Detection of a faulty sensor is impossible if there is only one sensor.

If a door is truly suddenly opened when driving then shutting down is a legitimate way to save the passenger. I think they should have 2 door sensors for each door instead of one.
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No need 2 sensors. Vehicle controller should be able to determine faulty sensor signal through CANBUS.

The issue here is the way the vehicle determined a faulty door sensor as a safety critical issue, which if following the norm, door sensor should just be Automotive Safety Integrity Level A.

ASIL-A components shouldn't cause vehicle to totally shutdown.

So, if it's true that it's due to door sensor, means BYD architecture on handling faulty sensor is flawed.

If it's not due to door sensor but something worse, BYD is covering up.

Not sure how our authorities will handle.

But if this happens more frequently, especially in EU or US, than the authorities will investigate and BYD might need to issue a fix and recall.
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post May 26 2025, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(Selectt @ May 26 2025, 06:52 PM)
because it is not just faulty sensor? Suck Dick wants to bb coz wants to hide further error by Bei Yan Diu?
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Kesian sd. Have to cover up for BYD’s poor engineering.
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post May 26 2025, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ May 26 2025, 06:48 PM)
But why buy back if can replace the faulty sensor?
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Maybe manufacturer wants to recreate the same situation for testing.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 26 2025, 05:37 PM)
good for him because can buy another atto3 at discount right?
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Noway they will buy byd already la even 50k also wont buy.

As i said many times, china cars have such poor engineering that a sensor in the door can cause catastrophic malfunction of the whole car.

Which stupid engineer designed that sensor?
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post May 26 2025, 06:58 PM

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Byd shud recall n reprogram the sensors systems so tht won't have engine shutdown when faulty or errors
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post May 26 2025, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(DS51 @ May 26 2025, 05:43 PM)
this is really stupid and unnecessary move.
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If you have the time, calculate 60Kwh to explosion in joule then find what kind of explosive that matches that energy release. Then realize, that you do not want that kind of energy between your crotch. No i'm serious. Searches like this flags you as terrorist.

Then you will probably think "haiyaa... can one la...".

Then after 1 day of sleep, you realize, thats why they put so many safe guards into an EV. Have you ever thought that they armored the battery is not for puncture but rather energy containment? No? whistling.gif

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post May 26 2025, 07:07 PM

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good lah..at least a closure for owner..no more worry and of this problem

and byd can fix this issue do something about it
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post May 26 2025, 07:07 PM

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post May 26 2025, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(kelvinlym @ May 26 2025, 06:55 PM)
No need 2 sensors. Vehicle controller should be able to determine faulty sensor signal through CANBUS.

The issue here is the way the vehicle determined a faulty door sensor as a safety critical issue, which if following the norm, door sensor should just be Automotive Safety Integrity Level A.

ASIL-A components shouldn't cause vehicle to totally shutdown.

So, if it's true that it's due to door sensor, means BYD architecture on handling faulty sensor is flawed.

If it's not due to door sensor but something worse, BYD is covering up.

Not sure how our authorities will handle.

But if this happens more frequently, especially in EU or US, than the authorities will investigate and BYD might need to issue a fix and recall.
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If there is a connection issue to the sensor then you can say you can detect no communication with the sensor. If there is no communication problem with the sensor but the sensor gives you wrong data, that couldn't be detected unless you get data from another sensor to confirm.


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QUOTE(JoeK @ May 26 2025, 06:48 PM)
But why buy back if can replace the faulty sensor?
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 26 2025, 06:52 PM)
It is so dangerous that replacing the faulty sensor does not cut it but must buy back for safety reasons.
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because this isn't a sensor issue, this is a programming issue
u change the sensor now...it should be fine but the programming part isn't updated

so if anytime in the future the sensor fail again, the same thing is gonna happen again
and maybe worse thing is gonna happen
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post May 26 2025, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ May 26 2025, 06:58 PM)
Byd shud recall n reprogram the sensors systems so tht won't have engine shutdown when faulty or errors
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That wouldn't require any recall, just a software update would do.


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post May 26 2025, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(trusol @ May 26 2025, 07:08 PM)
If there is a connection issue to the sensor then you can say you can detect no communication with the sensor. If there is no communication problem with the sensor but the sensor gives you wrong data, that couldn't be detected unless you get data from another sensor to confirm.
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True also. But the way the car behaves after a faulty data is the issue here. Door sensor shouldn't trigger abrupt full vehicle shutdown.

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