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Do you like proton before geely or after ?
Do you like proton before geely or after ?
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May 26 2025, 08:48 AM, updated 7 months ago
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Which one and why max_cavalera liked this post
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May 26 2025, 08:48 AM
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Dont like RT8081 before and after geely... DarkNite liked this post
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May 26 2025, 08:49 AM
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hate both of them
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May 26 2025, 08:50 AM
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Never liked any.
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May 26 2025, 08:50 AM
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May 26 2025, 08:50 AM
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May 26 2025, 08:51 AM
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Before harga yahudi, after more harga yahudi 🤭👀🍷🍟😂 |
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May 26 2025, 08:51 AM
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proton after geely better. more choices. if proton before geely give CAMPRO fuel guzzler engine. nahhhhh max_cavalera and DarkNite liked this post
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May 26 2025, 08:52 AM
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May 26 2025, 08:52 AM
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To be fair, first gen Proton Saga still good, until Proton Wira, problems started to stack..
Now Geely joins in, shits hit the fan |
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May 26 2025, 08:52 AM
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May 26 2025, 08:53 AM
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May 26 2025, 08:54 AM
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May 26 2025, 08:55 AM
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May 26 2025, 08:57 AM
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b4 but i still no like proton in general i lub pero2 RT8081 liked this post
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May 26 2025, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ May 26 2025, 08:55 AM) oh...CPS.My mom still own a Waja pre-CPS and pre-Campro. Engine still fine, but the parts are broken one by one. RT8081 liked this post
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May 26 2025, 09:00 AM
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I don't like the cause of our car tax increase.... RT8081 liked this post
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May 26 2025, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE(nebula87 @ May 26 2025, 08:59 AM) oh...CPS. Yeah the pre cps is like shit..My mom still own a Waja pre-CPS and pre-Campro. Engine still fine, but the parts are broken one by one. nebula87 liked this post
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May 26 2025, 09:05 AM
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before and after , after sale service and quality control still the same
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May 26 2025, 09:05 AM
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this question is like asking if you like pre Mahathir or post Mahathir ...... both equally sucks
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May 26 2025, 09:07 AM
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Of course since X70 la
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May 26 2025, 09:09 AM
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both still greedy
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May 26 2025, 09:09 AM
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Before because it's like driving a tank with full blast aircon.
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May 26 2025, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(nebula87 @ May 26 2025, 08:52 AM) To be fair, first gen Proton Saga still good, until Proton Wira, problems started to stack.. Had Iswara 1.3, Wira 1.5 Sedan, 1.3 Aeroback, 1.6 Aeroback.Now Geely joins in, shits hit the fan The 4Gxx Mitsu engines were amazing, all nitty gritty problems already sorted as the models matured. Then the delusional Tengku Mahaleel came in, stopped buying Proton until X50, am considering the eMas5 for groceries runs MegaCanonF, yhtan, and 2 others liked this post
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May 26 2025, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(ceras @ May 26 2025, 09:05 AM) THIS! If not for DrMM, Msia could have been Detriot of the East. At that time, Msia was years ahead of Thailand in the automobiles industry. Many Rakyat would have benefited instead of few Cronies & politicians! |
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May 26 2025, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ May 26 2025, 09:10 AM) Had Iswara 1.3, Wira 1.5 Sedan, 1.3 Aeroback, 1.6 Aeroback. Good for you for considering eMas5. The 4Gxx Mitsu engines were amazing, all nitty gritty problems already sorted as the models matured. Then the delusional Tengku Mahaleel came in, stopped buying Proton until X50, am considering the eMas5 for groceries runs The one thing never change is, their SC attitude. Good luck. |
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May 26 2025, 09:16 AM
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Dulu got Mitsu dna, can plonk in 4g91,93, 63 T/P etc.
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May 26 2025, 09:30 AM
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x50, x70 back then was an upgrade to what proton has to offer.
the creature comfort of x70 is even better then crv. |
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May 26 2025, 09:40 AM
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just another china brand in malaysia meh
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May 26 2025, 09:40 AM
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So many versions
MMC-Proton ? Geely-Proton? Volvo-Proton? Suzuki-Proton? Honda-Proton? Lotus-Proton? Citroen-Proton? Renault-Proton? This post has been edited by sportivo: May 26 2025, 09:42 AM |
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May 26 2025, 09:43 AM
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before geely, malaysian keep criticize proton as a bad car company after geely, somehow all that proton cars now looked like tanks all of a sudden RT8081 liked this post
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May 26 2025, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(nebula87 @ May 26 2025, 08:54 AM) u can criticize that many parts are built wrong but u can't deny that waja mitsu is an absolute tankstill plenty of them on the road today....no problem at all RT8081 liked this post
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May 26 2025, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 26 2025, 09:44 AM) u can criticize that many parts are built wrong but u can't deny that waja mitsu is an absolute tank Look like tank only. but kosong inside.still plenty of them on the road today....no problem at all |
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May 26 2025, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(nebula87 @ May 26 2025, 09:46 AM) same as perodua lah...inside kosong onlybut many will buy because it will just keep going and going and going without any problem that's what malaysians want max_cavalera and RT8081 liked this post
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May 26 2025, 09:55 AM
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driving a 2013 flx, minimal problems, cheap parts, nvh like crazy lol dad owns a waja, still going strong on 200k km after warranty, go for tepi jalan bengkel. SC is hit or miss RT8081 liked this post
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May 26 2025, 09:56 AM
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proton burnt tax payers money and made malaysian automotive uncompetitive. So pergi matilah proton. MegaCanonF, nebula87, and 1 other liked this post
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May 26 2025, 10:01 AM
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only good when mitsu still here guiding us wira,putra,satria gti were legendary dogbert_chew and RT8081 liked this post
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May 26 2025, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(KevProp @ May 26 2025, 10:01 AM) The relationship with Suzuki was too short, only the short lived Ertiga 1.4 which would have given the Avanza a tough fight. Else Perodua would have competed with Proton Swift, Jimny, Vitara.. |
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May 26 2025, 10:16 AM
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Nicer design
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May 26 2025, 10:31 AM
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Is the latest Proton Persona ok?
It's cheap and look like value for money |
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May 26 2025, 10:34 AM
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The X70, X50 was decent…
The most eye catching product for me was probably the X50 and emas7 launch though. The lower end product like saga, persona, iriz, savvy help a lot of lower income and fresh grad get thru… useful product |
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May 26 2025, 10:36 AM
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Geely era > mistubishi era > proton alone era max_cavalera liked this post
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May 26 2025, 10:38 AM
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The only proton i like is under Mitsubishi engine+proton putra . dogbert_chew liked this post
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May 26 2025, 10:44 AM
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not car problem but company human mentality
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May 26 2025, 10:46 AM
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Loce my previous wira 1.8 and waja 1.6 manual. Both Mitsubishi engine and gearbox. Never fails except for shitty power windows. dogbert_chew liked this post
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May 26 2025, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ May 26 2025, 10:34 AM) The X70, X50 was decent… eMas cun hor. Wait i settle the charging stuff firstThe most eye catching product for me was probably the X50 and emas7 launch though. The lower end product like saga, persona, iriz, savvy help a lot of lower income and fresh grad get thru… useful product |
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May 26 2025, 12:22 PM
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i see many 2nd hand Preve sell at low price, are them good to get?
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May 26 2025, 12:38 PM
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Are you ready for new X50? and SAGA dogbert_chew liked this post
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May 26 2025, 01:09 PM
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after 50 years got "cheated" and "scammed".....still am getting it...
no difference.... lol.... what has Proton given back to the nation?... rather we sold our opportunities of Honda, Toyota, Isuzu, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Nissan , Subaru , Suzuki....setting up plants here.... Even Geely plans to setup their EV plant in Thailand....not Malaysia....why?.. Malaysia has one of the biggest passenger car footprint....compare to Thailand... Proton has been a real big torn in the country progression to excel in car automotive IMO...so how many parts today from Geely are sourced from local products?.....at least if it was other car automakers, we would probably have SMEs booming as part suppliers regionally and possibly international.... instead....we put all hope into this 50 years of "liability"....enriching a few, under the expenses of citizens.... 49% Geely....pffttt.... for what la Proton?.... just sell it off, and let the brand die. drop your excise tax of 105% to 33% la....F-k Proton/Perodua, and ask them to compete. |
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May 26 2025, 01:11 PM
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May 26 2025, 01:14 PM
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B4 Gerli ... Only pawa window issue je .... Now? Lol MR_alien liked this post
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May 26 2025, 01:32 PM
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May 26 2025, 03:00 PM
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proton pre-geely was problematic because of power train right? the fuel guzzling engine and punch cvt. but one thing proton did especially under syed zainal was a R&D heavily on EV 15 years ago. they basically look forward to prepare for post-ICE era. but najib admin at that time had it enough with proton and ask khazanah to sell to other party with agreement to do JV with any foreign entity.
if only proton able to do EV on its own,.... whatever. This post has been edited by letitsnow: May 26 2025, 03:02 PM |
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May 26 2025, 03:22 PM
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Still the same parasitic style,, cannot compete at international stage
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Without GEELY, Proton days r numbered.
This is going to happen to P2 now that it has no one to fall back on EV. |
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May 26 2025, 06:14 PM
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Pre geely proton got good handling but everything else is shit
Post geely everything else is good but shit handling Gone are the days we can take a stock proton and pek kona karak highway at 180kmh This post has been edited by Boy96: May 26 2025, 06:14 PM |
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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ May 26 2025, 06:07 PM) Yes, if new X50 provides 1.5L turbo 4-cyl across all variants and maintain current pricing, should provide a good fight to incoming China brands. X50 will be 4 cylinder turbo this time dogbert_chew liked this post
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May 26 2025, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ May 26 2025, 07:05 PM) New Saga launching. If comes with Geely 1.5L engine might be better choice than current Persona. Not sure. Just looking for a second car for neighborhood drive and short distance drive If not urgently needed and can wait.. Maybe should wait for Proton Saga Geely dogbert_chew liked this post
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May 26 2025, 07:06 PM
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Both lousy. Proton days were my dark days. I rather buy kimchi cars, so much more reliable and no like buying tin kosong
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the vehicles were godawful, EXCEPT the 1st gen Saga. That Orion family engine is good as a workhorse, which explains why many are still on the road and plentiful of spare parts around!
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May 26 2025, 08:18 PM
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What do you all think would happen if Proton partnered with VW instead of Geely?
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May 26 2025, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE(letitsnow @ May 26 2025, 03:00 PM) proton pre-geely was problematic because of power train right? the fuel guzzling engine and punch cvt. but one thing proton did especially under syed zainal was a R&D heavily on EV 15 years ago. they basically look forward to prepare for post-ICE era. but najib admin at that time had it enough with proton and ask khazanah to sell to other party with agreement to do JV with any foreign entity. We have perodua doing EV on their own. Their soon to he launced EV is not a toyota/daihatsu cloneif only proton able to do EV on its own,.... whatever. |
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ayam wish protong never existed
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