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ktek
post May 29 2025, 09:32 AM

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subwoofer in front select 0' phase. behind of u select 180'
turn the woofer face around to match with satelite movements
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post May 29 2025, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ May 29 2025, 09:32 AM)
subwoofer in front select 0' phase. behind of u select 180'
turn the woofer face around to match with satelite movements
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oof my misunderstanding then. i will fix that ty doh.gif

i assumed the 180 meant face forward. i didnt know it mean behind. i previously followed here
https://www.reddit.com/r/BudgetAudiophile/c...gs_suggestions/


i know ur not suppose to put the sub close wall, i tried. had to put under desk to my right.

Left side had desktop pc (because cables particularly the usb cable to speaker to the pc is too short, so no choice) sad.gif


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You may want to go as high as 120hz for crossover. It doesn't cut off at the set point, but rather it should "roll off".

I couldn't imagine phase will be that important for this setup. In my experience I've only had to use phasing for multiple subs or for towers with large woofers. The phase is a way to prevent the large low sound waves from interacting and cancelling one another out. Perhaps placing the sub behind the listening position could benefit from a 180°phase, but the only way to tell is by ear. Phasing should be done last and needs to be redone when moving around components. But again I'm not sure you will even need to worry about it right now.

As for placement, I wouldn't worry about relativity to the speakers, but more so to the listening position. Maybe a sub crawl is in order?


https://www.reddit.com/r/BudgetAudiophile/c...to_my_r1700bts/

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Edifier speakers will automatically reduce its own bass input when it detects a connection to an external subwoofer, according to the R1280dbs manual.

I would suggest setting the bass volume knob of your speaker at neutral / 12 o’clock.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BudgetAudiophile/c...gs_suggestions/


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https://www.avsforum.com/threads/phase-0-or...e-help.3057686/


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You should set your subwoofer to 0 if you want your subwoofer and speakers to be in phase; that is, if they are placed in the same area and pointing in the same direction. However, set your subwoofer to 180 if you want the subwoofer and speakers to be out of phase; that is, if they are on opposite sides of the room and pointing at each other.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Klipsch/comments/t...h_should_i_use/

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post May 30 2025, 04:03 PM

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There's too many brands with variance of price especially in the upper RM500 to RM2000 range. If someone recommend a speaker most likely because he/she have heard and feel it's the nicest sound to them. But it might not be the best at that particular price range, or even the best sound to you as everyone have difference preference. Last time I was looking for headphone and one of the most recommended is Sennheiser HD650, which does sound great but for me I still very much prefer the sound signature from Monoprice M1060.

These are some of the brands that I know in the price range
Edifier
AirPulse
Klipsch
Mackie
Audioengine
JBL
HiVi Swans
Microlab
Kanto
PreSonus
Monitor Audio
Micca
Adam Audio
Wharfedale
Elac
Dali

Each brand have many models in the price range and have people feedback on how good the sound is. Been a while since I last checked on speaker and was surprised that even Topping and FiiO have speaker now.

Some years ago Edifier R1280DB was regarded as good valued speaker, not expensive and have good sound. Can say most of Edifier speaker that time is good value and good sound. I myself have R1700BT which sounds better than R1280DB to me, and then upgraded to S1000DB which I feel sounds even better. Then I heard that S2000 MKIII and S3000 MKII sounds even better, or go for the premium AirPulse with it's ribbon tweeter. That's when I put the stop from going down the rabbit hole anymore.

You should check these forums for speaker review and measurements
superbestaudiofriends.org
audiosciencereview.com

And this for list of some new speakers being released
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/in...speakers.49972/

Next time if you're going for the more expensive speaker, my suggestion is to skip active speaker. Get passive speaker and pair with amp, even cheap Topping PA3s amp is powerful enough for most desktop speaker. The most common failure are the electronic components, not the driver.
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ May 30 2025, 04:03 PM)
Next time if you're going for the more expensive speaker, my suggestion is to skip active speaker. Get passive speaker and pair with amp, even cheap Topping PA3s amp is powerful enough for most desktop speaker. The most common failure are the electronic components, not the driver.
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ty for the tips notworthy.gif

what about twitter. silk dome? aluminium dome? does it matter? hmm.gif

anyway enjoying the edifier qr65. whether its worth the price vs a cheaper speaker, hard to say since i dont have a good reference. it sounds good to me though. the aesthetics were just a bonus wub.gif

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jun 3 2025, 12:45 PM)
ty for the tips  notworthy.gif

what about twitter. silk dome? aluminium dome? does it matter?  hmm.gif

anyway enjoying the edifier qr65. whether its worth the price vs a cheaper speaker, hard to say since i dont have a good reference. it sounds good to me though. the aesthetics were just a bonus  wub.gif
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Tweeter driver shape the high frequency, silk and aluminum dome not much different. Planar and ribbon tweeter give much faster and sharp sound, some says the sound more like metallic. If you're not so sensitive on high frequency then won't find it any difference.

Ya as I said as long as you feel the sound is good then it is good enough, if want to compare it will be a never ending comparison.
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post Jun 3 2025, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jun 3 2025, 05:59 PM)
Tweeter driver shape the high frequency, silk and aluminum dome not much different. Planar and ribbon tweeter give much faster and sharp sound, some says the sound more like metallic. If you're not so sensitive on high frequency then won't find it any difference.

Ya as I said as long as you feel the sound is good then it is good enough, if want to compare it will be a never ending comparison.
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My ears are aged so I probly won't hear the finer differences 😢
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post Jun 4 2025, 07:50 AM

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just an update in regards to the qr65 gan charger.

previously when i tried charging directly from the speaker, it would only do the green charging which is slower than blue super fast charging 2.0

so i assumed it couldnt do it.

however now it does, and is indeed blue, and from 1 hour+ charging is now only 20-30 minutes.

so what changed?

i assume because i had 1 more cable connected to it charging something else, so when too many are charging, it drops the charging power hence why it couldnt turn blue.

so mystery solved. yeah super fast charging 2.0 seems to work, but only if u dont charge others things simultaneously from the speaker.

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post Jun 4 2025, 01:36 PM

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more testing



songs similar to this really make the sub woofer bass quite boomy.

the issue is the shaking throug walls is very audible even from next room (and using imagine through walls on all sides to neighbors)

after adjustment i turn the bass volume almost all the way done. any other setting would be too much for condo/apartment sweat.gif

eventually the neighbor will snap ranting.gif

so i do think they make a good point
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/no-it-is-n...-space.2272226/


i did test qr65 without subwoofer powered on, and its ok, but without the sub woofer it doesnt feel as nice. so i'm in between a rock and a hard place basically.

but if u want to eere on side of caution, maybe do without the sub woofer if you have a similar living condition, cause neighbors may get upset with the bass thumping. doesnt happen all the time, but some songs are more pronounced hmm.gif

anyway with my new setting, i still can hear the T5 sub, but at the lowest i could possibly get it. That me and neighbors can live with sweat.gif

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