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post May 23 2025, 09:41 AM, updated 7 months ago

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Family member at traffic stop, traffic was quite heavy. Traffic light turn green, traffic moved slowly. Fkler accelerate too much and rear-ended my family member car. Camry (old model) rear ended Mazda, camry (BAD GUY CAR)still looked okay, a bit of touch up kaodim, the Mazda (VICTIM) looking like it just came out of a 16 car pile up. Went to police station buat report, then the other party called, say their road tax expired and want to settle outside. Anyone got experience, please share? mega_shok.gif

Sorry if i confused anyone, CAMRY IS THE BAD GUY YA. He rear-ended my family member car.

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post May 23 2025, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ May 23 2025, 09:44 AM)
When settle outside, u pay them or they pay u?
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They say go to their workshop and they will pay the workshop. I scared later their workshop do a shit job, the panel wavy like fk.
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post May 23 2025, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ May 23 2025, 09:45 AM)
I see a lot of website di on uninsured, they all have one conclusion, you lose your NCD. MCCB, the fella uninsured and is our problem... sue the fella in court would cost more than the repair itself.
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post May 23 2025, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(anakkk @ May 23 2025, 09:47 AM)
a big no no, heret him to lockup, later he no show after your are repair, you tanggung sendiri GG
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Problem not me who can heret him to lokap. Polis also relax only. When the Sarjan check and know the fella don't have road tax, he say better just settle outside. Really MTF? The law say, max also he get RM3K fine or worst his car get confiscated. Doesn't look like its happening any time soon.
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post May 23 2025, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(neoexcaliber @ May 23 2025, 09:44 AM)
Chances are he won't be able to afford to pay for the repairs since he's driving an old car and can't even afford road tax. Why take the risk?
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ok good point. I didnt think that far.

QUOTE(Stigonboard @ May 23 2025, 09:47 AM)
Please also dont settle tepi without making police report

You dont know whether the car is curi or belong to criminals and they trying not to go balai
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Good to know thanks! Ya, will see it all the way through.


QUOTE(acbc @ May 23 2025, 09:49 AM)
Only for personal injuries. Damages cannot claim.
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This is what i understand, if got injury can claim with MIB but your car destroyed also, you a fked, if the guy got no car insurance.

QUOTE(a13solut3 @ May 23 2025, 09:50 AM)
if you sure 100% win, you can claim the legal cost from the other party as well.
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Court i think the repair alone won't be more than 10K, go court have to hire vampire, the cost already like 10K, can recover cost + repair cost = 20K? A bit doubtful. You know any lawyer handle accident cases and what they charge?

QUOTE(Anubis77 @ May 23 2025, 09:50 AM)
insist to go back bermaz or to your own trusted workshop
Keep police report until all fully settle.
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Insurance also cannot afford. Stress now, get quote from Bermaz later come out 5 figure, confirm the MTF gonna ghost.

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post May 23 2025, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(Virlution @ May 23 2025, 09:53 AM)
if minor... ask him to pay RM300~500 to settle and you go touch up paint je

or ignore and pocket the money, let another fella hit you later
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The car boot cannot close and the car cannot lock, bumper drop down crack half.

QUOTE(submergedx @ May 23 2025, 09:54 AM)
Dont put cacing inside butthole.

Proceed to legal claim. Let PDRM issue them saman and IO do his job.
Let your insurance handle. Can be fix without burning your NCD. Contact your panel now.

DO NOT ENGAGE SETTLE OUTSIDE.
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Called agen, confirm lose NCD. Really damn kau tulan. Even cacing in butthole doesn't feel that bad!!! MTF...


QUOTE(KevProp @ May 23 2025, 09:54 AM)
just report polis,you don't know what kind of person the mazda owner is

if the person is a responsible person then he won't even dare to drive without insurance and road tax at the first place
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Camry is the bad guy. Mazda is victim. sweat.gif

QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ May 23 2025, 09:55 AM)
settle outside? u better get that fucker in jail for driving an expired roadtax vehicle
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If i IGP confirm i ask polis go find the fella, alas, our family is nobody. sweat.gif

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post May 23 2025, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(SourLemons @ May 23 2025, 10:01 AM)
never ever do that, i did once. end up the guy went and do police report then i'm the one who kena saman cos legally you're supposed to do a report
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Okay police report done. Now waiting for accident report.

What happened to you case? You kena saman wtf??

QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ May 23 2025, 10:02 AM)
u ask police what procedure to take, rather than guessing
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Sarjan say settle outside. Which i dont think is right.

I think komen in /k make more sense compared to the Sarjan.

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post May 23 2025, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 23 2025, 10:05 AM)
do both...settle outside with him but your own workshop
and escalate the police report to SISPAA because the sergeant refused to take any action because driving without a valid insurance and roadtax is illegal
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Didnt know can report like that? If police isn't it EAIC or somehting?

QUOTE(homicidal85 @ May 23 2025, 10:06 AM)
yes, correct.
its a stupid system that favors people who willingly flout the law.

if it were me,

if repair cost is > 2 years NCD then just claim my own insurance.
if less than 2 years NCD, tell the guy I want to go to service center. if he refuse, i say i will tanggung half the price so he pay half only.


i never trust outside workshop for bodywork. for sure they will fuk something up.
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You make the most sense... but damn bitter wei still have to come out half (even if less than 2 year NCD).


QUOTE(a13solut3 @ May 23 2025, 10:07 AM)
you would probably need to get lawyer quotation for that, they usually have a standard pricing across the board. if kenal loyah then can get discount on goodwill basis.

just go make polis report, and make sure you are not the 'at-fault' party. probably you can claim OD-KFK without impacting your own NCD at worse case scenario.
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Ok I think all this 3 komens make the most sense.
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post May 23 2025, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ May 23 2025, 10:07 AM)
you would probably need to get lawyer quotation for that, they usually have a standard pricing across the board. if kenal loyah then can get discount on goodwill basis.

just go make polis report, and make sure you are not the 'at-fault' party. probably you can claim OD-KFK without impacting your own NCD at worse case scenario.
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OH MY FKing GOD

What if, on the other hand, the accident was not your fault, and you are compelled to make a claim with your online car insurance carrier to cover the cost of the damage? If your insurance policy is comprehensive, you may be eligible to claim ODKFK also known as Own Damage Knock-for-Knock. You may claim your own car insurance under the ODKFK claim without jeopardising your NCD status if you have a Police Investigation Outcome establishing that the third party was at fault. As a result, when your car insurance policy is renewed, you will continue to be eligible for NCD.

However, there are several exceptions when it comes to ODKFK claims, such as the ones listed below:

If the third-party vehicle is used for hire and reward, such as Grab/Uber, taxi, hire buses or school buses,
If the third-party vehicle is not insured,
If there is third-party bodily injury involved, regardless of who is at fault,
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post May 23 2025, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(jerm57 @ May 23 2025, 03:33 PM)
Those who tell you to proceed with the report or file civil suit have totally no idea how it works in reality. I kena this exact scenario before and I can tell you, if that fella willing to give you some compensation, take whatever you can get.

Tell him straight, if he want to settle, do it NOW with no delay. Otherwise just proceed to file a police report. And instead of losing NCD, opt to repair out of pocket if the price isn't too much. Otherwise, for such an old car, just use insurance.
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So the Boot dented badly and cannot close, the bumper bent and patah.

Bring to workshop, together with the Bad guy (this time he drive his Tesla, instead of old camry), workshop give quote 1.6K to 2K. Say will give final quote after check all the part prices.

I told my family member go check with insurance, how to claim insurance and what happen with her NCD (I told her confirm you lose NCD, even though accident report clear you of any fault). She say no need, very confident the Bad Guy will pay.

So the workshop came back with quote just now (3pm+), the quote is RM 2.7K. Bad guy say too expensive. HAHAAHAH... Looks like NCD bye bye.
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post May 23 2025, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(hickups @ May 23 2025, 03:45 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=20&t=4485433

This kes
Now more car no inso n roadtax...cause no need tampal
Not sure how polis check
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Thanks! Ya I recall seeing this thread. This guy is a legend.

Tbh, you just need car plate (if car plate is fake than GG, its another whole new problem), nowadays can easily get info especially if you know a runner (does JPJ work), someone from Traffik or even insurance company (deals even vehicle claim).


 

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