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Heroicage
post May 21 2025, 10:13 AM

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min wage can set like crap...

but cannot min bill from doctors....

kerajaan minda jangka pendek macam kuku sendiri....1"


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post May 21 2025, 10:18 AM

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consult fee gomen kena set limit, kalau break the rule ambil license balik
mowlous
post May 21 2025, 10:23 AM

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They know once everything is listed ppl will avoid doctors that charge expensive and rush to doctor that charge cheap. So competition war gonna force doctors to reduce price or close door.
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post May 21 2025, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(Lesane @ May 21 2025, 08:22 AM)
Doing for 10 people a day Vs 50 people a day. (Clinic)

Not many use  medical card in clinic so they do not need to spend a lot of time in clinic but if every patient then, the person may end up spending a lot of time doing it so extra/higher salary.

That will translate to extra cost which then becomes extra charge.
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Most clinic already has a system for that that interface with all their panel

That’s why they have list of panel like aia, pm care all this shit

Your system interface into thier system and pull info out.

Klinik in suburb maybe diff but most clinic I been which are big ones like Lourdes, mediveron blablabla has this

So again? What’s the difficulty and reasoning to increase cost? Coz now your nurse need to key in info ?

I don’t get it


Apakah kepunden ini because like I said, I’ve been getting itemised billing for many years
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post May 21 2025, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ May 21 2025, 10:23 AM)
They know once everything is listed ppl will avoid doctors that charge expensive and rush to doctor that charge cheap. So competition war gonna force doctors to reduce price or close door.
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Now we can see led signboard on klinik…sale 50 percent medicine and doctor consultation

Free market like this is best, honestly it’s so hard to find a good doctor mostly are the locum noob spoil the experience
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post May 21 2025, 10:50 AM

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time to use AI as medical consultant
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post May 21 2025, 10:58 AM

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Can everyone start charging higher price if customer is a doctor?😆
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post May 21 2025, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(Lesane @ May 21 2025, 08:17 AM)
The are separated in system but billed together.

if you use medical card , usually you will get the breakdown but still not itemized bill as to cost of  each item
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The last time I used my medical card, I know how much each cotton swab costs. sad.gif

This post has been edited by ReoAyanami: May 21 2025, 11:52 AM
Lesane
post May 22 2025, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(Roadwarrior1337 @ May 21 2025, 10:45 AM)
Most clinic already has a system for that that interface with all their panel

That’s why they have list of panel like aia, pm care all this shit

Your system interface into thier system and pull info out.

Klinik in suburb maybe diff but most clinic I been which are big ones like Lourdes, mediveron blablabla has this

So again? What’s the difficulty and reasoning to increase cost? Coz now your nurse need to key in info ?

I don’t get it
Apakah kepunden ini because like I said, I’ve been getting itemised billing for many years
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Boss

Those are panel clinic. The system is own by AIA, PM Care, Micare not own by the clinic Clinic is just user of the system.

For those Company Panel & cash payer they still need to invest in a system by or license - still a cost.




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post May 22 2025, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(Lesane @ May 22 2025, 08:27 AM)
Boss

Those are panel clinic.  The system is own by  AIA, PM Care, Micare not own by the clinic Clinic is just user of the system.

For those Company Panel & cash payer they still need to invest in a system by or license - still a cost.
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Well if they can give itemise billing then no issue boss

Invest into system or manually provide reciept

Both works and meet the requirement


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post May 22 2025, 09:12 AM

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Already price hike 5-10%

Now have to itemize ubat and consultation fee seperately. Hard to set it ngam ngam same price as before. Its either charge less or charge more. The only aensible thing to do...

End of the day see u want go out ur way get prescription instead and buy from pharmacy. Or be like 99.9% sheep just close eyes suck it up and swallow.
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post May 22 2025, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(Roadwarrior1337 @ May 22 2025, 09:00 AM)
Well if they can give itemise billing then no issue boss

Invest into system or manually provide reciept

Both works and meet the requirement
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Hence increase in pricing with worst case scenario estimation.

No one do work for free so expected increase in charges. - just preempting people only (though i believe the cost is overestimated)

Jangan buat buat terkejut pikacu when price naik.


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post May 23 2025, 08:13 PM

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Perak GPs To Charge Three New Fees
By Boo Su-Lyn | 23 May 2025

Perak is the 5th state to jump on the bandwagon of private GPs introducing new patient charges, with a Perak doctors’ group recommending 3 new fees (prescription, registration, facility fees),
following Sabah, Sarawak, Penang, and potentially Selangor/KL.
https://codeblue.galencentre.org/2025/05/do...three-new-fees/
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post May 23 2025, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ May 23 2025, 08:13 PM)
Perak GPs To Charge Three New Fees
By Boo Su-Lyn | 23 May 2025

Perak is the 5th state to jump on the bandwagon of private GPs introducing new patient charges, with a Perak doctors’ group recommending 3 new fees (prescription, registration, facility fees),
following Sabah, Sarawak, Penang, and potentially Selangor/KL.
https://codeblue.galencentre.org/2025/05/do...three-new-fees/
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lol, sure up car later ask gov for money
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post Jul 30 2025, 09:55 AM

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Doctors fight medicine price rule
By RAGANANTHINI VETHASALAM
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Wednesday, 30 Jul 2025

PETALING JAYA: The medicine price display rule has been challenged in court by several doctors who want the order to be quashed.

The doctors filed for a judicial review, saying the rule hurts small clinics and was introduced without proper consultation.

They want the rule, which took effect on May 1, to be revoked.

The lawsuit named the Domestic Trade and Cost of Living Minister, Health Minister and the Federal Government as the first, second and third respondents, respectively.

The applicants are the Association of Private Practitioners, Sabah (APPS), the Malaysian Medical Association (MMA), the Malaysian Association for the Advancement of Functional and Interdisciplinary Medicine (Maafim), the Organisation of Malaysian Muslim Doctors (Perdim), the Federation of Private Medical Practitioners Associations Malaysia (FPMPAM), the Malaysian Private Dental Practitioners’ Association (MPDPA), the Society of Private Medical Practitioners Sarawak (SPMPS), and one Dr Saifulbahri Ahmad.

The lawsuit was in relation to the Price Control and Anti-Profiteering (Price Marking for Drug) Order 2025, which came into effect on May 1.

The medical practitioners are seeking an order of certiorari to quash the Domestic Trade and Cost of Living Ministry’s Price Control and Anti-Profiteering (Price Making for Drug) Order 2025 (ministry’s order).

According to the statement of claim of the suit filed on July 24, they are also seeking a declaration that the ministry’s order was void and tainted with illegality, irrationality, unreasonableness, disproportionality and impropriety.

They asked that the enforcement of the ministry’s order “insofar as its application to private healthcare facilities and/or registered medical practitioners and dentists” be stayed until the judicial review case is over.

Among the grounds for the judicial review is the failure of the government to recognise the difference between drugs sold in retail and drugs administered for treatment purposes.

It added that the Domestic Trade and Cost of Living Minister had breached principles of natural justice by arriving at the decision without consulting registered medical practitioners represented by the MMA.

They said that while the purpose of the regulation was to curb profiteering activities, it has created unwarranted competition among providers of drugs, with the singular denominator purely being the price of drugs.

“This means even small-scale community clinics operated by general practitioners (GPs) and specialists have to now compete with large-scale drug retailers, for example, international chain pharmacies who already enjoy a larger market control and the ability to gain further control of retail customers by selling drugs at a much lower price,” they said.

They added that small-scale community clinics would be at a disadvantage if forced to enter into an unwarranted competition with large-scale pharmaceutical companies.

They said drug prices in clinics are determined by variables such as manufacturers; freight charges; export or import duties; importers; distributors; volume purchased; location of the clinics; different formulations of the same product; provisions for wastage of expired unused drugs; and staff and administrative expenses.

The price display rule was met with much resistance by private healthcare practitioners.

A three-month grace period from May 1 has also been given, where no compounds would be issued and the government would instead focus on advocacy and education.

According to the court’s website, the suit is set for case management at the Kuala Lumpur High Court on Aug 22.

Source: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2025...cine-price-rule

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