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farisq
post May 20 2025, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 20 2025, 10:58 AM)
The problem isn't the insurance companies buddy.

Its the freaking hospitals over charging the moment they know you are on insurance.
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And they also reluctant on being transparent with the charges for medications, consultation, procedures....
loserguy
post May 20 2025, 12:59 PM

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deswai I say, start saving money, slowly build it up until you can go without insurance.

when it is sunny, banks and insurance gip u umbrella as free gifts, when it rains they take it away.
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post May 20 2025, 01:02 PM

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Go gov hospital la. No insurance don't go private.

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post May 20 2025, 01:03 PM

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msian governments are fully beholden to insurance companies as they rely on their continued investment of customer funds. ( billions and billions)

but what can we do in the meantime ? still need medical insurance due to chronic mishandling of the public health sector for half a century.

This post has been edited by Redhunt: May 20 2025, 01:04 PM
Srbn
post May 20 2025, 01:07 PM

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No Premium Waiver for cancer?

My insurance got this benefit in the policy.
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post May 20 2025, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 20 2025, 10:58 AM)
The problem isn't the insurance companies buddy.

Its the freaking hospitals over charging the moment they know you are on insurance.
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same with car insurance
conlanfirm if you paid with insurance your bill will be at least 2x or 3x the original price

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post May 20 2025, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 20 2025, 10:49 AM)
unlikely that stupid insurance cover his pre-existing conditions
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Nowadays got reinsurable insurance. Kena already can still insure again. But you expect premium to stay the same then you memang bodoh lor...
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post May 20 2025, 01:30 PM

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Eson had bought an insurance policy for himself 15 years ago with a premium payment of RM652 per month.

damn, that is high ...

further more his insurance diagnosis is AFTER he bought d insurance ... should have more than sufficient $$$ to cover
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post May 20 2025, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(cms @ May 20 2025, 12:49 PM)
I tembak only bro. Not actual. Example only
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ok, understood.
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post May 20 2025, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ May 20 2025, 12:59 PM)
deswai I say, start saving money, slowly build it up until you can go without insurance.

when it is sunny, banks and insurance gip u umbrella as free gifts, when it rains they take it away.
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Most stupid advice.

Once you get chronic illnesses, your entire wealth will be wiped out.

You think medical costs are cheap?


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post May 20 2025, 02:47 PM

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insurance is a business, dont be stupid to think they are giving free money

insurance play with all the probability, the higher the probability, the higher the premium, this is why when you want to buy insurance they ask you all the upfront conditions, this is to determine your probability...
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post May 20 2025, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(Srbn @ May 20 2025, 01:07 PM)
No Premium Waiver for cancer?

My insurance got this benefit in the policy.
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U got buy rider, and u when u kena cancer is like kena a jackpot as compensation lo
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post May 20 2025, 03:02 PM

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Must be nice being insurance company.
If overclaim, can raise premium cost.

If underclaim, pocket the profit.

No risk business.
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post May 20 2025, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 20 2025, 02:32 PM)
Most stupid advice.

Once you get chronic illnesses, your entire wealth will be wiped out.

You think medical costs are cheap?
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Do you think premiums are cheap once you get older? Many people have this false idea that you pay a certain amount and insurance will always have your back. That is only true to a certain extent.

Remember, it is always the decision of the insurer whether to approve your claim. It is not guaranteed. And even when they do, it is sometimes not the full amount with some items not being covered. Get used to hearing about exclusions and pre-existing conditions.

You can start by opting for lower premiums in exchange for a co-payment. Don't spend that money, but start saving it.


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post May 20 2025, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ May 20 2025, 12:59 PM)
deswai I say, start saving money, slowly build it up until you can go without insurance.

when it is sunny, banks and insurance gip u umbrella as free gifts, when it rains they take it away.
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You never seen love one kena cancer to say this.

That's all I have to say
loserguy
post May 20 2025, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 20 2025, 03:03 PM)
You never seen love one kena cancer to say this.

That's all I have to say
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You are making assumptions.

And I am much older than you.

How much is your yearly premium? Go look up the yearly premium for someone in their 60s. 70s? At that point, they will start suggesting you opt for co-payment anyway.
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post May 20 2025, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 20 2025, 03:03 PM)
You never seen love one kena cancer to say this.

That's all I have to say
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Yeap..
My remisier fren kena cancer. Sustaining life for 10+ yrs, using over 4 5m from insurance pay out and own money, end up tired to get treatment and just the cancer eat the life and pass on..
And she told me all the insurance pay out also not enough, have to sendiri fork out ...

So if ur cancer is super aggressive, probably just take payout, treat 1 2 time and if cannot, just bye bye only.. dont go dig everything and send to doctor. Pass on the money to the livong is better

But if u treat ad got response, then ok la..

But if u no have any insurance, lagi cepat mati if treatment slow..
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post May 20 2025, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(vhs @ May 20 2025, 10:40 AM)
This is old news, someone at age of 55 claimed his insurance triples from RM652 to RM1,800 monthly. But if monthly = RM1.8K, it will be RM21.6K in a year. At age of 55? Has health insurance become so expensive nowadays? Or something not really right with this news? Who at age of 55 is currently paying RM20K a year for your health insurance?
https://www.thevibes.com/articles/news/1084...-rm1800-monthly

A 55-YEAR-OLD single father, identified as Eson, was diagnosed with stage one bladder cancer in 2018.
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A personal battle turns financial
Eson, a 55-year-old single father and former sales professional, was diagnosed with stage one bladder cancer in 2018.
His workplace insurance at the time covered approximately RM300,000 in immunotherapy costs over three years, allowing him to fully recover and eventually be declared cancer-free.
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Despite the successful treatment, doctors advised Encik Eson to remain vigilant due to the risk of cancer recurrence.
To secure his health further, he continued paying into a personal insurance policy he had taken out 15 years earlier, with a monthly premium of RM652.

Retired and overwhelmed
In 2021, due to health complications worsened by the COVID-19 pandemic, Eson retired early from his job.
Without a steady income, he relied on his retirement savings, which depleted within two years.

Things took a turn for the worse when his insurance provider suddenly increased his monthly premium to RM1,800.
Already in financial distress, the threefold hike left him unable to maintain his policy.

He was then hit with devastating news: his cancer had returned.
With no remaining savings and an insurance policy on the brink of collapse, Encik Eson saw no way forward.

Intervention at the highest level
His plea reached Bayan Baru Member of Parliament (MP) Sim Tze Tzin, who had previously received numerous similar complaints from citizens facing steep insurance hikes.
Sim raised the issue in Parliament in November 2024 and met with the Governor of Bank Negara.
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In response, Bank Negara issued a temporary policy that limits insurance premium increases to 10% over three years.
With the MP’s help, Eson lodged a formal complaint with the central bank. His premium was eventually reduced back to the original RM652.

A broader concern for Malaysians
According to the Sim, nearly half of Malaysians depend on insurance for healthcare protection. However, sudden and drastic premium hikes can render coverage unaffordable, especially for retirees and the elderly. Some seniors aged 70 have even lost all protection after being forced to cancel their policies due to cost increases.
“This isn’t just about money—it’s a matter of survival,” he wrote in a Facebook post, adding that ongoing efforts will continue to ensure fair treatment and consumer protection in the insurance industry.

Source: ‘Can’t Afford Anymore’ – 55yo M’sian Retiree’s Medical Insurance Soars From RM652 To RM1,800 Monthly

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post May 20 2025, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ May 20 2025, 03:08 PM)
You are making assumptions.

And I am much older than you.

How much is your yearly premium? Go look up the yearly premium for someone in their 60s. 70s? At that point, they will start suggesting you opt for co-payment anyway.
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Whats age gotta do with it? U ever had any cancer family members or friends?

I have. 4 of them in my life. No matter how much savings u tried to build in your lifetime it doesn't mean jack when you are hit with cancer or leukemia.


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post May 20 2025, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 20 2025, 03:03 PM)
You never seen love one kena cancer to say this.

That's all I have to say
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I've witness first hand how big medical emergency can destroy the families of someone who is not insured.
After seeing that I've decided I don't want to be a burden to anyone if i'm hit with something similar and upped my insurance coverage.

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