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post May 19 2025, 05:21 PM, updated 7 months ago

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post May 19 2025, 05:24 PM

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post May 19 2025, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ May 19 2025, 05:23 PM)
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Lepas eksiden kot. Dude crashed into two seperate barriers.
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There’s no insurance coverage if car goes to Sepang and crashes right ?
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Brake fluid boiled?
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Like cartoon the tyre rolling away after crash.
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post May 19 2025, 05:28 PM

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Dang... still alive?
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QUOTE(masamura @ May 19 2025, 05:24 PM)
There’s no insurance coverage if car goes to Sepang and crashes right ?
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post May 19 2025, 05:31 PM

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Wonder how much sepang billed the owner for the damage.

Zero insurance coverage some more.
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post May 19 2025, 05:31 PM

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I'd say the driver braked way too late after the braking points. Notice the Golf already slowing down and the driver of the AMG was still doing 222kph

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post May 19 2025, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(haturaya @ May 19 2025, 05:29 PM)
Dang... still alive?
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QUOTE(Chisinlouz @ May 19 2025, 05:28 PM)
Still alive?
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Even if alive, when they see damage need to pay to track and how bad the car, the driver likely wish he's dead.
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post May 19 2025, 05:32 PM

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I always thought tyre rolling only happens in cartoon
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post May 19 2025, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(masamura @ May 19 2025, 06:24 PM)
There’s no insurance coverage if car goes to Sepang and crashes right ?
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Usually no, for big sport events some got track day insurance, but rarely heard here in Malaysia offering to owners going to track by their own.

With so much coverage on-line and car also rare in market i believe they cant do any false report for Insurance claim also.
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QUOTE(masamura @ May 19 2025, 05:24 PM)
There’s no insurance coverage if car goes to Sepang and crashes right ?
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Nope. Looks at the terms and conditions of your insurance cover note.
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Woo hoo! Kudos to the driver for not racing on public roads.
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 19 2025, 05:32 PM)
Even if alive, when they see damage need to pay to track and how bad the car, the driver likely wish he's dead.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ May 19 2025, 05:31 PM)
I'd say the driver brake way too late. Notice the Golf already slowing down and the driver of the AMG was still doing 222kph
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It very much depend on the car braking and brake pad.

You can brake in shorthen distance if the brake is good to gain the time.
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how much damage
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 19 2025, 05:32 PM)
Even if alive, when they see damage need to pay to track and how bad the car, the driver likely wish he's dead.
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Maybe can take loan and pay until retire
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post May 19 2025, 05:46 PM

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Brake too late? Skill problem? Overestimate the car's braking ability?
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driver flashing ke? or brake is on the stering?
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ppl already slowdown, but his car still gaining speed.

mean noob lo. easy
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need to compensate the race track?
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QUOTE(KevProp @ May 19 2025, 05:46 PM)
Brake too late? Skill problem? Overestimate the car's braking ability?
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his cameraman didnt wear seatbelt and gets thrown out of car.
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At least he noob in race track, not in public road
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post May 19 2025, 05:54 PM

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car brake at 200m, which is ample
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Car in a surprisingly good shape for a 160kmh collision

But the brake fade is totally unexpected hmm
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That tyre was like, even rim also gone cb
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He braked way too late.
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QUOTE(empstar2 @ May 19 2025, 05:36 PM)
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At least didn't crash into others.
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QUOTE(masamura @ May 19 2025, 05:24 PM)
There’s no insurance coverage if car goes to Sepang and crashes right ?
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See the fler smart got remove number plate before going down the track lor. Last time ppl no smartphone or social media, if got accident in track, they usually tow the car out from the track and then place it near a tree to take pic before claim insurance.
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He will be in serious debt his whole life because of that.

Pandan muka

But Reality, he already book new BMW to race next week.
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how many laps he already did? the brakes are gone at that time

the car have beefy brakes but still its a road car cannot do many lap after laps non stop like a race car
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QUOTE(azbro @ May 19 2025, 06:17 PM)
He will be in serious debt his whole life because of that.

Pandan muka

But Reality, he already book new BMW to race next week.
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Ah beng 1st time play sepang dont read braking point signage
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How the dashcam or clip-on camera terbang sampai luar?
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QUOTE(alfiejr @ May 19 2025, 06:03 PM)
He braked way too late.
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And very unfamiliar with the track. Turn 15 is a left handed second gear hairpin. Yet the hero takes the inside line. True hero.

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QUOTE(nasiputih @ May 19 2025, 05:52 PM)
his cameraman didnt wear seatbelt and gets thrown out of car.
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2 years no change brake fluid punya orang.
Those who pay for the trackday also cannot race until they fixed the barrier. He gonna curse by many people.

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Open tyre racing with much more downforce and lighter body also use this reference point

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a sports car at the same point only start to brake from 220kmph?
some more on the inside line

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What brake fade

More like driver faded
That amount of speed into T15 in the inside is just asking for it
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he forgot he’s in sepang, thought highway…. straight all the way!!.. or at the Oval
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Dash cam. fucking crash rated
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Drive sports car doesnt mean driver automatically got skill.

He should test drive the car on asseto corsa first.

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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ May 19 2025, 07:19 PM)
Drive sports car doesnt mean driver automatically got skill.

He should test drive the car on asseto corsa first.
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this is after few lap .. dont think is driver skill ..u can see he start panic way before entering the corner ..which meant that time he already know no more brake

driving 200+ with no brake even formula 1 driver also cannot save la laugh.gif



more like either brake hose putus or brake oil boil

but dont think is because of brake booster vacuum pump putus/tercabut

because if pump putus ; u will no brake and when slam brake your car will mati engine ..why? because i kena before ..drive 80+ then the brake pump hose tercabut ..brake become harden and 0 braking power. ..when slam brake car rpm drop to 0 and no power steering ..if release then car auto start back .luckily empty road ..use hand brake push pull + downshift till car stop

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 19 2025, 07:22 PM)
this is after few lap .. dont think is driver skill ..u can see he start panic way before entering the corner ..which meant that time he already know no more brake

driving 200+ with no brake even formula 1 driver also cannot save la  laugh.gif
more like either brake hose putus or brake oil boil

but dont think is because of brake booster vacuum pump putus/tercabut

because if pump putus ; u will no brake and when slam brake your car will mati engine ..why? because i kena before ..drive 80+ then the brake pump hose tercabut ..brake become harden and 0 braking power..luckily empty road ..use hand brake push pull + downshift till car stop
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ May 19 2025, 07:26 PM)
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QUOTE(nasiputih @ May 19 2025, 05:52 PM)
his cameraman didnt wear seatbelt and gets thrown out of car.
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No fucking way someone going to be that stupid not wearing seatbelt in race track. No way.
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just to educate u guys with actual info

driver is a pro-racer well known among sepang kakis

car had mechanical brake failure going into final turn causing the crash

and yes no insurance coverage provided for track driving, means car owner (the passenger in the video, which was being coached by the driver) has to pay for the car, track damage and likely his hospital bill as well

car owner claimed the car had upgraded brakes but turns out it was stock brakes with overdue parts and fluids so fault wasn't on the driver

just unfortunate event for everyone involved

people who laugh at him probably stuck with driving 100hp shit cars that cant even survive 1 lap of sepang doing below 3 min timing
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ May 19 2025, 07:46 PM)
just to educate u guys with actual info

driver is a pro-racer well known among sepang kakis

car had mechanical brake failure going into final turn causing the crash

and yes no insurance coverage provided for track driving, means car owner (the passenger in the video, which was being coached by the driver) has to pay for the car, track damage and likely his hospital bill as well

car owner claimed the car had upgraded brakes but turns out it was stock brakes with overdue parts and fluids so fault wasn't on the driver

just unfortunate event for everyone involved

people who laugh at him probably stuck with driving 100hp shit cars that cant even survive 1 lap of sepang doing below 3 min timing
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TQ for the info. Rather than simply hentam the driver...
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QUOTE(thankyou @ May 19 2025, 07:51 PM)
TQ for the info. Rather than simply hentam the driver...
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1st post i already update with this info but i presume some ppl don't read it
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I think if you take the owner words for it and you are suppose to race in it, you pun salah juga, driver.
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im not a pro driver, just a gamer that loves to race in sepang be it car or moto.

from the video can see the driver applied a late braking

with that speed, only tuned or heavily modded car like DTMs or GT car can properly handle the corner

must be the driver excited so much until he forgot he is driving a street legal car.
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ May 19 2025, 07:46 PM)
just to educate u guys with actual info

driver is a pro-racer well known among sepang kakis

car had mechanical brake failure going into final turn causing the crash

and yes no insurance coverage provided for track driving, means car owner (the passenger in the video, which was being coached by the driver) has to pay for the car, track damage and likely his hospital bill as well

car owner claimed the car had upgraded brakes but turns out it was stock brakes with overdue parts and fluids so fault wasn't on the driver

just unfortunate event for everyone involved

people who laugh at him probably stuck with driving 100hp shit cars that cant even survive 1 lap of sepang doing below 3 min timing
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Driver thought late braking can help to show power of amg I suppose

But yeah guys before go track day need to inspect car top down left right most important is drive train, suspension, brakes and tires

Also even if you inspect all nicely, other car may crash into or infront or somewhere around u so some defence driving knowledge is required

But Ina nutshell, it all comes down to your luck to be honest, some day u get lucky and some days u really get lucky


Also prepare for 0 insurance claim over your life and the car. Your life insurance has a clause if involve in dangerous activity then it’s null and not covered ya.

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did this sohai just highbeam on a fucking track 0:30
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QUOTE(xPrototype @ May 19 2025, 08:20 PM)
did this sohai just highbeam on a fucking track 0:30
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yes to let the slower car know he is coming

normal thing in endurance racing

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 19 2025, 07:22 PM)
this is after few lap .. dont think is driver skill ..u can see he start panic way before entering the corner ..which meant that time he already know no more brake

driving 200+ with no brake even formula 1 driver also cannot save la  laugh.gif
more like either brake hose putus or brake oil boil

but dont think is because of brake booster vacuum pump putus/tercabut

because if pump putus ; u will no brake and when slam brake your car will mati engine ..why? because i kena before ..drive 80+ then the brake pump hose tercabut ..brake become harden and 0 braking power. ..when slam brake car rpm drop to 0 and no power steering ..if release then car auto start back .luckily empty road ..use hand brake push pull + downshift till car stop
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Even if alive, when they see damage need to pay to track and how bad the car, the driver likely wish he's dead.
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Formula 1 will just pump the speed even more to get the downforce and take 300km corners...
"One of the fastest corners in F1 is 130R at Suzuka, where cars can reach around 310 km/h "
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that is formula driver with formula 1 car

but not formula driver with GT63 or AMG GTS

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Memang racing sepang are safe?

IRL dont say 200kmh crash, if 100kmh confirm nirvana already
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ktek AMG no need to downshift when cornering?
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Poor skill. No check before revving engine.

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QUOTE(submergedx @ May 19 2025, 08:51 PM)
Memang racing sepang are safe?

IRL dont say 200kmh crash, if 100kmh confirm nirvana already
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ May 19 2025, 08:45 PM)
Formula 1 will just pump the speed even more to get the downforce and take 300km corners...
"One of the fastest corners in F1 is 130R at Suzuka, where cars can reach around 310 km/h "
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130 radius not tight pun
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I can confirm this AMG driver is even more aggressive than Red Bull F1 driver Ricciardo's 2017 qualifying, should he turn in successfully it'll be new Sepang lap record.
1. Ricciardo's braking point, notice the small road way ahead.
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2. AMG driver's braking point, it's already beside that small road.
user posted image

3. Ricciardo braked and downshifted to gear 3 and speed 114km/h before turn in
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4. AMG's driver speed 209km/h and still in gear 6 when trying to corner
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Just watched the video, confirmed brake too late. Maybe he too high or too excited.

Those stock brake cannot take it, not becoz it's faulty but bcoz just too late thus brake jam/understeer.

The SG racing driver fault. Racing driver also will have driving error/ mistake.



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QUOTE(voscar @ May 19 2025, 09:24 PM)

4. AMG's driver speed 209km/h and still in gear 6 when trying to corner
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The AMG had no brakes, how to reduce speed? Driver already said pijak brake sampai lantai but there was nothing at all. The brake hoses gave up.

This was the driver btw

https://www.facebook.com/share/18qxxJXnef/

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 19 2025, 09:34 PM)
The AMG had no brakes, how to reduce speed? Driver already said pijak brake sampai lantai but there was nothing at all. The brake hoses gave up.
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Could it be brake gave up due to excessive use? I don't see him use downshift or upshift at all. It's like Genting going downhill use throttle and 100% brake without rely engine braking at all?

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QUOTE(voscar @ May 19 2025, 09:36 PM)
Could it be brake gave up due to excessive use? I don't see him use downshift or upshift at all. It's like Genting going downhill use throttle and 100% brake without rely engine braking at all?
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It was barely the first lap. More story said the owner of the car upgraded the disc and pads, but didnt bother to upgrade the old stock brake hose nor even change brake fluid
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Many sifu here blame the pro driver.. funny la..driver is pro btw
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Many sifu here blame the pro driver.. funny la..driver is pro btw
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Misha Charoudin pro driver at Nürburgring also crashed before la, pro driver sure 100% won't mistake one so it's 100% car fault in every accident?
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I can confirm this AMG driver is even more aggressive than Red Bull F1 driver Ricciardo's 2017 qualifying, should he turn in successfully it'll be new Sepang lap record.
1. Ricciardo's braking point, notice the small road way ahead.
user posted image

2. AMG driver's braking point, it's already beside that small road.
user posted image

3. Ricciardo braked and downshifted to gear 3 and speed 114km/h before turn in
user posted image

4. AMG's driver speed 209km/h and still in gear 6 when trying to corner
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Point 2 - He brake much earlier. Even before he passed the Myvi you can hear him stepping off the throttle already. But he was not able to slow down because the brake wasn't working.

Point 4 - This is dumb. He's not trying to corner. By then his brake had failed. How to slow down?

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I'd say the driver braked way too late after the braking points. Notice the Golf already slowing down and the driver of the AMG was still doing 222kph
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Point 4 is dumb. He's not trying to corner. By then his brake had failed. How to slow down?
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So if brake no problem you think he still able to corner nicely even with such late braking point than F1 driver? Not going out runoff area?
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 19 2025, 08:50 PM)
that is formula driver with formula 1 car

but not formula driver with GT63 or AMG GTS
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https://www.mercedes-benz.com.sg/passengerc...ergency-braking
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Point 2 - He brake much earlier. Even before he passed the Myvi you can hear him stepping off the throttle already. But he was not able to slow down because the brake wasn't working.

Point 4 - This is dumb. He's not trying to corner. By then his brake had failed. How to slow down?
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It was 228km/h right before this screenshot I taken to prove his braking point
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So if brake no problem you think he still able to corner nicely even with such late braking point than F1 driver? Not going out runoff area?
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I don't think you're quite right. You're using when he voiced out "Oh f there's no brake" as indicator when he pressed brake, but I think it's much earlier. Your timestamp/screenshot isn't right. He took off the throttle much earlier. You can listen to the engine.
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It was 228km/h right before this screenshot I taken to prove his braking point
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Even using 228kmh ur screenshot is way off. Please watch the video again.
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Even using 228kmh ur screenshot is way off. Please watch the video again.
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Show me yours then
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First of all, his max top speed was 229kmh

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

You can also see, just shortly after, it had reduced to 227kmh.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

While this doesn't prove when he actually pressed the brake, he clearly had let off this throttle. We can assume somewhere in between is where is likely pressed the brake (which didn't work).

Either way, both pictures are way before your screenshot.
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QUOTE(ktek @ May 19 2025, 09:50 PM)
can ..but in this scenario EPB force will not help anything ..even u drove 80 100 u hard press EPB ..stopping distance will be damn far as well

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QUOTE(trojandude @ May 19 2025, 09:58 PM)
First of all, his max top speed was 229kmh

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

You can also see, just shortly after, it had reduced to 227kmh.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

While this doesn't prove when he actually pressed the brake, he clearly had let off this throttle. We can assume somewhere in between is where is likely pressed the brake (which didn't work).

Either way, both pictures are way before your screenshot.
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So F1 driver Ricciardo start braking at the point, while AMG did Top Speed 229km/h outbraked later?
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QUOTE(voscar @ May 19 2025, 10:02 PM)
So F1 driver Ricciardo start braking at the point, while AMG did Top Speed 229km/h outbraked later?
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It's not easy to judge distance from the small road from the pictures. Not the same angle, but they don't really look that different. Certainly very different from the screenshot you showed. You make it as though he braked by the small road, when that doesn't seem to be the case.
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QUOTE(voscar @ May 19 2025, 10:02 PM)
So F1 driver Ricciardo start braking at the point, while AMG did Top Speed 229km/h outbraked later?
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Frankly speaking there's plenty of other videos of people with way later braking point. I don't know why you're using one video as an example.





I'm not a professional driver by any means, but your screenshot is very misleading.

Let's not forget - just because you brake late DOES NOT MEAN you won't make your corner. It means you would compromise your exit and probably won't get the optimal lap.

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See how this part effect all. Inb4 many car owner bought "recond" brake caliper set at much2 unheard price, told taken from kete potong but restore. They not scared risking their life with fake/recond brake caliper
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insurance got cover??
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can ..but in this scenario EPB force will not help anything ..even u drove 80 100 u hard press EPB ..stopping distance will be damn far as well
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See how this part effect all. Inb4 many car owner bought "recond" brake caliper set at much2 unheard price, told taken from kete potong but restore. They not scared risking their life with fake/recond brake caliper
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Msia road just punished a SG Fallali recently.

Now a Merc GT.

SGean really need to take up Msia driving course. Our Kopi'O license are not to belittled with.
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Msia road just punished a SG Fallali recently.

Now a Merc GT.

SGean really need to take up Msia driving course. Our Kopi'O license are  not to belittled with.
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video driver no gloves so i guess ruling relaxed liao
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Driver didn't even try to downshift manually. Solely rely on brake system only with that speed?

Also i think driver saw the myvi and thinking overtake the myvi 1st only brake but it will be really late brake.

Betul ke experienced race driver macam ini ka?

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Even my savvy cabuk got upgrade stainless steel brake lines and bendix ultimate pads and bendix rotors. You'll never know when ur gonna get brake fade

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RIP bank account. Car lost no insurance claim, pay for SIC damage, pay for tow out of the mess and go home. worst of all, not yourself drive and race driver that drive your car. ppl syok and you pay
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There’s no insurance coverage if car goes to Sepang and crashes right ?
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I think this is cover by the organiser.
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Organizer just take small money to organize this event only. Sure SIC slap the cost to the owner
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There’s no insurance coverage if car goes to Sepang and crashes right ?
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Organizer just take small money to organize this event only. Sure SIC slap the cost to the owner
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just before he crash, he change his hands position, is that the correct way to position the hands before crashing?
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just before he crash, he change his hands position, is that the correct way to position the hands before crashing?
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The brake broke..and soon he will be broke too?
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Yup .. to ensure the bone crack into more pieces but 9 and 3 position already correct.
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should just hold normally with thumbs out of the way in the event of significant crash your wrist will just slip off the steering while providing sufficient energy dispersion
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Organizer just take small money to organize this event only. Sure SIC slap the cost to the owner
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They will just claim their own personal insurance . Small money la. Owner is Singaporean. Sgd is strong. Peanuts for him whatever the fine
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RIP bank account. Car lost no insurance claim, pay for SIC damage, pay for tow out of the mess and go home. worst of all, not yourself drive and race driver that drive your car. ppl syok and you pay
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this is poor man mentality

People not stupid not buying special insurance for track racing. it will cost a few K but small cost for them.
each time track day change tyre, engine fluid etc... easily 10k and more.

They can easily afford all this.... be it singaporean or malaysia.

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QUOTE(voscar @ May 19 2025, 09:24 PM)
I can confirm this AMG driver is even more aggressive than Red Bull F1 driver Ricciardo's 2017 qualifying, should he turn in successfully it'll be new Sepang lap record.
1. Ricciardo's braking point, notice the small road way ahead.
user posted image

2. AMG driver's braking point, it's already beside that small road.
user posted image

3. Ricciardo braked and downshifted to gear 3 and speed 114km/h before turn in
user posted image

4. AMG's driver speed 209km/h and still in gear 6 when trying to corner
user posted image
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The AMG driver is a real noob. He used the inside lane and try to corner and applied brakes at the last minute.

U see pro drivers turn from the outside lane, cut thru the chicane. Not turn from the inside lane.

Confirm not brake failure, just that he applied the brakes so late. On the track , 200kmh will feel and look slow. I know because i have brought my Porsche to track day before.

The AMG driver should never have cut on the left of the VW at that speed. Instead, he should have followed behind the VW
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QUOTE(Johannlo @ May 19 2025, 05:31 PM)
Wonder how much sepang billed the owner for the damage.

Zero insurance coverage some more.
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Last time ada one Honda car damage the same spot, compensate about RM100k to SIC

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I think this is cover by the organiser.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 20 2025, 02:18 PM)
Last time ada one Honda car damage the same spot, compensate about RM100k to SIC
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Not same spot. Itu dia langgar transponder tower at turn 1
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post May 21 2025, 11:00 PM

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Similar type of car, similar braking points

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post May 21 2025, 11:14 PM

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not brake failure

is brain failure

0:21 woohoo mat lan u slow as fuck

1. golf in right lane and right speed
2. u didn't overtake golf, golf oredi braking
3. u brake more late than Lauryn Hill arriving to concerts
4. u in the wrong lane to attempt that
5. u in the wrong speed to attempt that
6. ur voice irritating

tire roll *chefs kiss*
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post May 21 2025, 11:44 PM

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Brake was not working, driver get really panic, way too panic and totally forgot to downshift. Oh alright . Experienced pro racer.
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post May 22 2025, 12:14 AM

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If every corner the driver brake that last minute, it is no wonder his brake failed.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ May 19 2025, 05:31 PM)
I'd say the driver braked way too late after the braking points. Notice the Golf already slowing down and the driver of the AMG was still doing 222kph
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There was no brake at all
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post May 22 2025, 05:21 AM

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It's good that they raced in a track. Imagine how much worse the damage gonna be to them and to other people if they were to do it on a public road.

Unfortunate that they had a break failure. Luckily no deaths.
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QUOTE(voscar @ May 19 2025, 09:24 PM)
I can confirm this AMG driver is even more aggressive than Red Bull F1 driver Ricciardo's 2017 qualifying, should he turn in successfully it'll be new Sepang lap record.
1. Ricciardo's braking point, notice the small road way ahead.
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2. AMG driver's braking point, it's already beside that small road.
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His breaking point is around here:
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Took him about 0.5s to realize hence his "there's no brakes!" came later.
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Inb4 Mercedes no RV then
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post May 22 2025, 06:56 AM

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Lol igtkan palat darat je ada brake failure
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Aku brake, tapi kete aku break

Versi masili
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post May 22 2025, 07:13 AM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ May 19 2025, 11:13 PM)
Maserati  also kena

Damn last time I saw got ppl complaining how come malaysian driver can drive easily on sg road while they need to take their difficult driving test

I wanna laugh bcoz I see the way they drive is totally sohai, traffic light red still accelerate then brake hard at traffic light....
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Dont forget the vomit style accelerator rev, Rev brake Rev brake
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QUOTE(therain01 @ May 21 2025, 11:44 PM)
Brake was not working, driver get really panic, way too panic and totally forgot to downshift. Oh alright . Experienced pro racer.
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If there are no brakes, speed not going down enough to downshift so the car won't let you do it to prevent damage to the engine. That said, doesn't look like he was using engine braking the last few turns before the incident too.

BTW, anyone posted evidence of brake failure yet?
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ May 22 2025, 07:13 AM)
Dont forget the vomit style accelerator rev, Rev brake Rev brake
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Oh them effing taxi driver style. Makes me wanna puke every time I get in a cab. Nowadays some cabbies moved to e-hailing and brought their habits with them.
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QUOTE(bottomfrag @ May 22 2025, 09:11 AM)
If there are no brakes, speed not going down enough to downshift so the car won't let you do it to prevent damage to the engine. That said, doesn't look like he was using engine braking the last few turns before the incident too.

BTW, anyone posted evidence of brake failure yet?
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Berak hose putus
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 22 2025, 09:13 AM)
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Berak hose putus
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Maybe caused by the crash?
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you called that experience driver? puikkk
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 22 2025, 09:13 AM)
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Berak hose putus
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I don't think that's conclusive though. The whole wheel came off with wheel hub, control arm and brake caliper attached. So that line could've been ripped off during that.
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fukin scary yo. hurtling toward a wall at 200 kmh.
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Funny question..this car is 1 million car. and I dont understand, why there is really need to prep a car..

1 million sport car should come with everything tip top conditon..if brake fade, maybe I can accept. but this one, is like brake zero. and some people said, they car just had a lap, not multiple laps running.

or maybe the owner not maintain the car well.

really shock see 1 million car brake so weak.
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QUOTE(iamloco @ May 22 2025, 06:56 AM)
Lol igtkan palat darat je ada brake failure
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If Im the mercedes owner, I will sue mercedes benz. but then, mercedes might counter sue back. lol.

this 1 million car also got brake failure. indeed speeding is dangerous hobby even in track. thats why I find other hobby. lol.
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QUOTE(DM52 @ May 22 2025, 08:43 PM)
Funny question..this car is 1 million car. and I dont understand, why there is really need to prep a car..

1 million sport car should come with everything tip top conditon..if brake fade, maybe I can accept. but this one, is like brake zero. and some people said, they car just had a lap, not multiple laps running.

or maybe the owner not maintain the car well.

really shock see 1 million car brake so weak.
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we dont know the car maintenance history also, parts mmg will break over time especially if its already used

not to mention this kind of use case scenario takes a heavier toll compared to normal road driving
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QUOTE(marfccy @ May 22 2025, 08:56 PM)
we dont know the car maintenance history also, parts mmg will break over time especially if its already used

not to mention this kind of use case scenario takes a heavier toll compared to normal road driving
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does this apply to lorry lose control?
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QUOTE(nasiputih @ May 22 2025, 09:06 PM)
does this apply to lorry lose control?
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kinda, since lorries also subjected to so many stress plus the lorries usually are extremely ancient in age

worst is dunno if the fellas actually sent them to maintenance often..
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QUOTE(marfccy @ May 22 2025, 09:12 PM)
kinda, since lorries also subjected to so many stress plus the lorries usually are extremely ancient in age

worst is dunno if the fellas actually sent them to maintenance often..
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QUOTE(DM52 @ May 22 2025, 08:43 PM)
Funny question..this car is 1 million car. and I dont understand, why there is really need to prep a car..

1 million sport car should come with everything tip top conditon..if brake fade, maybe I can accept. but this one, is like brake zero. and some people said, they car just had a lap, not multiple laps running.

or maybe the owner not maintain the car well.

really shock see 1 million car brake so weak.
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Standard car, should have not use it on the track perhaps
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thought that before you go 200 km/h and brake, they will take a slower lap drive at 80km/h, then say 140 km/h before they do the real lap
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QUOTE(masamura @ May 19 2025, 05:24 PM)
There’s no insurance coverage if car goes to Sepang and crashes right ?
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unless you buy additional insurance, usually this kind of event, the entry fees already got include insurance....

btw, it is AMG GT, it should be able to run 300+kmh
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ May 22 2025, 10:00 PM)
Standard car, should have not use it on the track perhaps
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not, this car have racing mode, so i more suspect the owner do not have proper maintenance...

msia bmw and merc 4s shop dont really doing proper maintenance, they only change engine oil...

this is why msia bmw and merc 2nd hand condition so bad...
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QUOTE(cloudwan0 @ May 22 2025, 10:16 PM)
not, this car have racing mode, so i more suspect the owner do not have proper maintenance...

msia bmw and merc 4s shop dont really doing proper maintenance, they only change engine oil...

this is why msia bmw and merc 2nd hand condition so bad...
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Ini Singapore Merc. Btw as explained by someone there, owner changed only brake pad, but didn't change brake lines and brake fluids, but told the driver he did upgrade them.
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 23 2025, 09:10 AM)
Ini Singapore Merc. Btw as explained by someone there, owner changed only brake pad, but didn't change brake lines and brake fluids, but told the driver he did upgrade them.
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sohai like in Malaysia, stock brake, masuk brake pad endless, terus claim stage 1 upgrade sweat.gif
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 23 2025, 09:10 AM)
Ini Singapore Merc. Btw as explained by someone there, owner changed only brake pad, but didn't change brake lines and brake fluids, but told the driver he did upgrade them.
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sama sama, sg merc is also under C&C...

btw, AMG GT come with AMG 6pot bbk, why need to change brake lines, brake fluids if it is not yet reach the maintenance time?

as i say before, probably not proper maintenance being carry out...

 

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