PolitiKs Waktu muda dulu saya idealis, sekarang sudah sedar
PolitiKs Waktu muda dulu saya idealis, sekarang sudah sedar
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May 19 2025, 09:05 AM, updated 7 months ago
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May 19 2025, 09:08 AM
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No, despite the flaws of Madani, it is still miles better than PN, especially in economic development. So the lesser evil does apply CallOfLegend, party, and 29 others liked this post
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May 19 2025, 09:08 AM
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Nons kena kencing using this same excuse lmao
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May 19 2025, 09:11 AM
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Not about good and evil. It's about who serves your own selfish interest. Everyone is selfish. CallOfLegend, galkelly, and 8 others liked this post
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May 19 2025, 09:11 AM
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Everyone young start out as idealistic liberal They grow into a pragmatic conservative CallOfLegend, Jigoku, and 5 others liked this post
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May 19 2025, 09:13 AM
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lets have anwar & nurul + mom rules smallcrab and max_cavalera liked this post
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May 19 2025, 09:15 AM
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May 19 2025, 09:16 AM
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waktu muda semua mau kejar impian untill reality hit u hard
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May 19 2025, 09:17 AM
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The world as we know it is not what we imagined as a full spirited testosterone rich young man.
The more you grew up, you started to question and accept reality. |
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May 19 2025, 09:20 AM
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the more u play the game, the more u realize how farked up this game is
that's why take it easy, dun be a fool and become extremists in anyway. u r just sacrificing your life so that other ppl can drive lambo and marry models |
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May 19 2025, 09:22 AM
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Kesimpulannya: Every election, always vote the opposition. Let's change the government every 5 years until one side is serious enough to govern the country. Jigoku, williamtan2020, and 2 others liked this post
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May 19 2025, 09:27 AM
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May 19 2025, 09:28 AM
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there's an english saying like this
‘If You Are Not a Liberal When You Are Young, You Have No Heart, and If You Are Not a Conservative When Old, You Have No Brain’ |
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May 19 2025, 09:31 AM
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some ppl expect changes in 1-2 years time , even if you bought a 2nd hands house that aged 30 years , you would need a lot of money + few years to totally reform it
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May 19 2025, 09:31 AM
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Overall, the current administration has been doing very well.
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May 19 2025, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ May 19 2025, 09:27 AM) Do they look like serious to you? |
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May 19 2025, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ May 19 2025, 09:22 AM) Kesimpulannya: Every election, always vote the opposition. Let's change the government every 5 years until one side is serious enough to govern the country. naive, if like that every gomen will songlap to the max since will not be re-elected for sure smallcrab liked this post
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May 19 2025, 09:41 AM
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May 19 2025, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ May 19 2025, 09:40 AM) Good then. Keep jailing politicians who songlap until only “clean” politicians left. Whoever still songlap is too dumb to govern the country and will end up in jail. Good cleansing method.QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ May 19 2025, 09:41 AM) Wow. Your bar is very low. |
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May 19 2025, 09:48 AM
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May 19 2025, 09:49 AM
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May 19 2025, 09:53 AM
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because type m dont want change
over 50% voted PN just by shouting DAP DAP DAP and only type m use the 2x5 5x2 argument as excuse to resist change This post has been edited by damonlbs: May 19 2025, 09:55 AM |
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May 19 2025, 09:54 AM
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no more euphoria kek
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May 19 2025, 09:56 AM
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Vote Pas next GE jer
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May 19 2025, 10:01 AM
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May 19 2025, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ May 19 2025, 09:40 AM) And be prepared to be investigated by the next administration?In some companies, positions are rotated every few years, to ensure workers don't become too "comfortable" in certain positions. Of course, the companies say it's for "skill enlargement". |
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May 19 2025, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(ThirdSon @ May 19 2025, 09:13 AM) Papa presiden Mama penasohat Presiden Anak timbalan presiden No wonder it is called Parti Keluarga ReforMATI in X. 😂😂😂😂😂 Mana itu Mat Sabu timeless ‘ Najib ini, Najib itu, Najib lulus? ‘ Volfeed liked this post
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May 19 2025, 10:10 AM
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May 19 2025, 10:13 AM
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May 19 2025, 10:20 AM
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May 19 2025, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ May 19 2025, 09:08 AM) Many left the country long time agoJust look at the statistics The statistics still includes PR as population. PR will eventually give up their citizenship Kaya Butter Toast liked this post
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May 19 2025, 10:26 AM
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May 19 2025, 10:37 AM
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Funny that Mahathir and Anwar don't want to have Mukhriz and Nurul Izzah gained their place through their own hard work. Like, how many people actually realised both Najib and Hishamuddin are sons of previous PM. It's because they both rose through the rank naturally.
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May 19 2025, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ May 19 2025, 10:13 AM) KLCI barely moved compare to 3 years ago. Most ppl dont feel economy is good, in fact its deteriorate Some of it is unavoidable due to external factors. But overall the handling of Trump's trade war and ASEAN out reach has been very good. Cannot complain la. Frankly, if we had the same administration as 3 years ago, I am not sure if they would have handled it as well.Anwar’s Leadership And MADANI Govt Lauded In US Tariff Issue – Nazir Razak https://www.bernama.com/en/news.php?id=2420181 |
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May 19 2025, 10:48 AM
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May 19 2025, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 19 2025, 10:37 AM) Funny that Mahathir and Anwar don't want to have Mukhriz and Nurul Izzah gained their place through their own hard work. Like, how many people actually realised both Najib and Hishamuddin are sons of previous PM. It's because they both rose through the rank naturally. Everyone knows about jibby and h2o. Another argument could be, would jibby or h2o even be there if their fathers were not PMs. |
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May 19 2025, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ May 19 2025, 09:22 AM) Kesimpulannya: Every election, always vote the opposition. Let's change the government every 5 years until one side is serious enough to govern the country. Lol, whatever you do, you still loseChange every 5 years? Thet know 5 years will lose power so songlap harder and let next people clean Or They kawtim among them this term i songlap, next term u songlap |
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May 19 2025, 11:03 AM
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madani isnt great but still better than PN, the other side talk and talk about non important things in fact they speak loudly but always having to eat their won words back , just like the flag issue why they so silent now
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May 19 2025, 11:23 AM
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Just like all school is good school but it does not mean all schools are same
If one think all government is same, then ignorant it is |
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May 19 2025, 11:31 AM
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Idealis kahwin 4, naiisee
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May 19 2025, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(killdavid @ May 19 2025, 09:08 AM) No, despite the flaws of Madani, it is still miles better than PN, especially in economic development. Pls don't generalise but state explicitly in what way is one more evil than the other.So the lesser evil does apply My observation is that the difficult task of putting bijan behind bars took place during PN administration. Recall the threats made against cj. And tsmy lost PM ship becos refuse to budge on bijan case. Under PH which corrupt politician got convicted? |
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May 19 2025, 11:51 AM
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"atleast better than PN/PAS" bestest excuse dey used. No wonder Madadani relax ajer
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May 19 2025, 11:52 AM
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inb4 lu tak sukak lu keluar
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May 19 2025, 11:53 AM
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vote dap out
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May 19 2025, 12:15 PM
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May 19 2025, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(fongsk @ May 19 2025, 10:10 AM) Mah I won't potek this time Ayam team RR, tho I'm not a PKR member, can't vote and my opinion won't matter QUOTE(Gon Freaks @ May 19 2025, 10:26 AM) Happen like what? fongsk liked this post
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May 19 2025, 12:31 PM
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Pilih PH sebab tak nak BN.
Now you get PH+BN. Lepas ni dapat PH+BN+PUAS semua happy |
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May 19 2025, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(killdavid @ May 19 2025, 09:08 AM) No, despite the flaws of Madani, it is still miles better than PN, especially in economic development. This one I agree So the lesser evil does apply It's like Joe Biden and trump Both looks so not worth to vote for but you got no choice to vote useless senile Biden or else you'll get trump with the crazy radicals tariff |
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May 19 2025, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ May 19 2025, 10:48 AM) They want bigger budget for religious enforcement and the country to transition to logging economy.Free teh tarik is a bonus and who needs a bus station for evil ICE busses right ? Not forgetting eradicating the pesky colonizer language. And lying through your teeth everyday to defame people is needed for the prosperity of the tribe. This post has been edited by killdavid: May 19 2025, 01:08 PM |
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May 19 2025, 01:10 PM
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May 19 2025, 01:11 PM
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If you follow The Economist and The Financial Times, Madani gov is doing the impossible. You will appreciate them more once you understand the underlying fundamentals.
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May 19 2025, 02:44 PM
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May 19 2025, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(pej425 @ May 19 2025, 11:03 AM) madani isnt great but still better than PN, the other side talk and talk about non important things in fact they speak loudly but always having to eat their won words back , just like the flag issue why they so silent now Would really be interested to know what Madani does that is actually better than PN. Want to say currency worst, also happening during Madani (2nd time he become the FM, RM plunge to second lowest, lowest was during his 1st tenureship). Meritocracy also not happening and scolded poor child for asking for meritocracy. Corruption, his DPM is leading the line. AES become AWAS. No free education still ok, but the discount from the government for PTPTN repayment is the lowest (none). Tax increase, expanding SST coverage to avoid using GST. Manifesto say PM cannot be FM, but holding the FM for as long as everyone can remember. Honeymoon to everywhere except Malaysia with the excuse to get biliun of investment. Nurul is Daddy kasi - lose at stronghold. I can go on and on, but would really be interested to know what is better. |
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May 19 2025, 04:50 PM
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Ramai orang tak berpijak di bumi yang nyata.
Idealist still, acah acah pragmatis saja. That's why these ppl (dah tua pun) always majorly disappointed. |
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May 19 2025, 06:24 PM
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Tak sama laa...does that doctor khairul hafidz prefer Abah with his "scheme of things?"
At least Anwar no daylight robbery like jibby and no daylight over table money game lah like abah kau |
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May 19 2025, 06:47 PM
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Kill 1 person or kill 2/3/4/... people. Both are evil but which one is more evil?
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May 19 2025, 08:30 PM
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When all your choices are bad, you vote to disrupt each other. Make them work for the lunch they stole from you. Give vote to the parti that has more young people. Give your vote to the one that has to compromise because they don't have enough votes.
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ May 19 2025, 04:35 PM) Would really be interested to know what Madani does that is actually better than PN. Want to say currency worst, also happening during Madani (2nd time he become the FM, RM plunge to second lowest, lowest was during his 1st tenureship). Meritocracy also not happening and scolded poor child for asking for meritocracy. Corruption, his DPM is leading the line. AES become AWAS. No free education still ok, but the discount from the government for PTPTN repayment is the lowest (none). Tax increase, expanding SST coverage to avoid using GST. Manifesto say PM cannot be FM, but holding the FM for as long as everyone can remember. Honeymoon to everywhere except Malaysia with the excuse to get biliun of investment. Nurul is Daddy kasi - lose at stronghold. I can go on and on, but would really be interested to know what is better. Anwar was a BN man. You can bring a man out of BN, you can't bring the BN out of a man. We don't vote to elect the PM directly. Choose the best in your constituency. If you think Madani is bad, wait until PN is in power. PAS, this is not the first time PAS in a coalition, I suspect it will not be the last. PN is just a survival coalition for the losers and the old, corrupted scums. Madani is weak because it has to share power with that cancerous BN. As much as I dislike Anwar and his party, I like what the Harapan did last round. I just hope that they had more votes to hold more power. |
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ May 19 2025, 04:35 PM) Would really be interested to know what Madani does that is actually better than PN. Want to say currency worst, also happening during Madani (2nd time he become the FM, RM plunge to second lowest, lowest was during his 1st tenureship). Meritocracy also not happening and scolded poor child for asking for meritocracy. Corruption, his DPM is leading the line. AES become AWAS. No free education still ok, but the discount from the government for PTPTN repayment is the lowest (none). Tax increase, expanding SST coverage to avoid using GST. Manifesto say PM cannot be FM, but holding the FM for as long as everyone can remember. Honeymoon to everywhere except Malaysia with the excuse to get biliun of investment. Nurul is Daddy kasi - lose at stronghold. I can go on and on, but would really be interested to know what is better. Public services is much better. Project moves, things get built and fixed. There is momentum, our standing in the world have improved. In short, there is a government that is working. All I remember during PN time is, nothing moving, all talk and infighting only. |
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May 19 2025, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ May 19 2025, 09:15 PM) Public services is much better. Project moves, things get built and fixed. There is momentum, our standing in the world have improved. In short, there is a government that is working. All I remember during PN time is, nothing moving, all talk and infighting only. Yup and they done well to save Malaysians from plundering their own EPF savings. Unpopular stance but stuck with the right move.Don't listen to KBT, he is closet taliban. |
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ May 19 2025, 09:46 AM) Good then. Keep jailing politicians who songlap until only “clean” politicians left. Whoever still songlap is too dumb to govern the country and will end up in jail. Good cleansing method. Someone doesnt know how to manage a company/country or learn economics, I see. Enforcement of law, einvoice, speed traps revamping, targeted subsidies...all those monies used to pay 1MDB+songlap debt+interestWow. Your bar is very low. |
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QUOTE(killdavid @ May 19 2025, 09:08 AM) No, despite the flaws of Madani, it is still miles better than PN, especially in economic development. Lol macai. Still cant accept that u just wrong and have no principal. Last time die2 about no corruption. So the lesser evil does apply Now corruption run rampant. If economic development is the measure. Jibby miles better than PH1 and madani combine. |
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QUOTE(SuperGampang @ May 20 2025, 02:34 AM) Lol macai. Still cant accept that u just wrong and have no principal. Last time die2 about no corruption. Macai, come defend convicted corrupted politician again. Really beyond hope and lack of moral fibre.Now corruption run rampant. If economic development is the measure. Jibby miles better than PH1 and madani combine. |
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ May 19 2025, 04:35 PM) Would really be interested to know what Madani does that is actually better than PN. Want to say currency worst, also happening during Madani (2nd time he become the FM, RM plunge to second lowest, lowest was during his 1st tenureship). Meritocracy also not happening and scolded poor child for asking for meritocracy. Corruption, his DPM is leading the line. AES become AWAS. No free education still ok, but the discount from the government for PTPTN repayment is the lowest (none). Tax increase, expanding SST coverage to avoid using GST. Manifesto say PM cannot be FM, but holding the FM for as long as everyone can remember. Honeymoon to everywhere except Malaysia with the excuse to get biliun of investment. Nurul is Daddy kasi - lose at stronghold. I can go on and on, but would really be interested to know what is better. Lately there's a hoohaa about Izzah. I have no idea why they still want to hype and give attention to this woman.She already lost her seat in recent G.E to PN. It shows that Izzah cannot pakai. fongsk liked this post
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May 20 2025, 07:33 AM
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May 20 2025, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ May 19 2025, 09:15 PM) Public services is much better. Project moves, things get built and fixed. There is momentum, our standing in the world have improved. In short, there is a government that is working. All I remember during PN time is, nothing moving, all talk and infighting only. Public service improved? Are you sure? That's the least we shd expect seeing how much increase in govt servant salary.Which project? There has always been projects moving. Some are beneficial to the country but many benefit crony and give opportunity to song lap. After Najib any govt will improve our standing in the world You forget that govt is also working hard to free felons and get them out of jail. During PN time infighting because umno want to push its way to free Najib. Now Madani just relax let dumbo have their way with Najib and the gang of criminals the chief one being the mrs : so no fighting. Sometimes fighting is a good sign. |
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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 20 2025, 08:40 AM) Public service improved? Are you sure? That's the least we shd expect seeing how much increase in govt servant salary. You beat me to this Which project? There has always been projects moving. Some are beneficial to the country but many benefit crony and give opportunity to song lap. After Najib any govt will improve our standing in the world You forget that govt is also working hard to free felons and get them out of jail. During PN time infighting because umno want to push its way to free Najib. Now Madani just relax let dumbo have their way with Najib and the gang of criminals the chief one being the mrs : so no fighting. Sometimes fighting is a good sign. Personally I don't feel any improvement This post has been edited by jasontoh: May 20 2025, 08:55 AM SharpSword liked this post
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