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post May 15 2025, 07:40 AM, updated 7 months ago

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More stupidity from pmx. Why the hell we need nuclear when there is palm oil biomass, solar and hydro? Clean and renewable.
Looks like this was decided time ago as the price for Russia to take the blame for mh17.
Incoming: imported Chernobyl 2. Which state will be the lucky one.? Hope Penang.
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post May 15 2025, 07:42 AM

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Do you know nuclear reactor has advance so much that it is very safe to operate. Just let nuclear expert run the show
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Biomas, hydro mana cukup bro. Malaysia hosting ai digital centres, industrial factories, etc. Going to need more energy in the future.
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post May 15 2025, 07:44 AM

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post May 15 2025, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(knwong @ May 15 2025, 07:42 AM)
Do you know nuclear reactor has advance so much that it is very safe to operate. Just let nuclear expert run the show
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Are you gonna apply the vacancy at the reactor? Head of OSHA.
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post May 15 2025, 07:46 AM

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Nuclear is considered as green or clean power generation cause they dont produce carbon. Downside is really need good nuclear waste disposal facilities.

Malaysia being a general safe zone from natural disaster is actually good to have nuclear power plant. Just that Malaysia lack of maintenance culture is the worrying part.

For those always against this would be the same pple who are always against technology and advancement

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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 15 2025, 07:40 AM)
More stupidity  from pmx. Why the hell  we need nuclear when there is palm oil biomass, solar and hydro? Clean and renewable.
Looks like this was decided time ago as the price for Russia to take the blame for mh17.
Incoming:  imported  Chernobyl 2. Which state will be the lucky one.? Hope Penang.
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Kelate is most ideal with sparse population n not much economic value.
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post May 15 2025, 07:50 AM

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Nuclear fusion!!! LETS GOOOO!!!!

also thorium

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QUOTE(knwong @ May 15 2025, 07:42 AM)
Do you know nuclear reactor has advance so much that it is very safe to operate. Just let nuclear expert run the show
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But this country expert all perfer go other country....
Left those half baked expert .....
Lorry problem also cant manage to settle...
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QUOTE(danabu @ May 15 2025, 07:44 AM)
OK if Thorium reactor...
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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 15 2025, 07:46 AM)
Are you gonna apply the vacancy at the reactor? Head of OSHA.
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Just leave it alone in desert with plenty of salt. Can operate on its own. Thorium is safe too. I paid attention in my physics class last time


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QUOTE(neo_grayfox @ May 15 2025, 07:46 AM)
Nuclear is considered as green or clean power generation cause they dont produce carbon. Downside is really need good nuclear waste disposal facilities.

Malaysia being a general safe zone from natural disaster is actually good to have nuclear power plant. Just that Malaysia lack of maintenance culture is the worrying part.

For those always against this would be the same pple who are always against technology and advancement
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Do you know a lot of petro chem companies store carbon waste here?

https://bimp-eaga.asia/article/indonesia-ma...on-storage-hubs


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QUOTE(MGM @ May 15 2025, 07:47 AM)
Kelate is most ideal with sparse population n not much economic value.
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Perlis la
6 person only....
Anything happen no much lost....
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QUOTE(MGM @ May 15 2025, 07:47 AM)
Kelate is most ideal with sparse population n not much economic value.
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On the contrary, I'd suggest putrajaya.
At least force the gov to be more vigilant with the operation and upkeep. laugh.gif

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i know one state in malaysia that desperately needs this
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post May 15 2025, 07:58 AM

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Let me guess, it is from Songlap France

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ May 15 2025, 07:52 AM)
Do you know a lot of petro chem companies store carbon waste here?

https://bimp-eaga.asia/article/indonesia-ma...on-storage-hubs
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Carbon and nuclear storage are totallt diff thing and level wei…
But then im not against nuclear power plant here..
In fact ita good to have advancement, we should have a nuclear power plant..
In fact many do not know Malaysia already have a nuclear research facility for many many years already..
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Dulu the radioactive stuff hilang, sudah jumpa belum?
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Corporate can buy carbon credit from. SG.
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Looks like a lot of replies here feel the cancer rate and burden in this country not high enough. Can still throttle the carcinogens into the environment.
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post May 15 2025, 08:02 AM

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Looks like a lot of replies here feel the cancer rate and burden in this country not high enough. Can still throttle the carcinogens into the environment.
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ May 15 2025, 07:51 AM)
But this country expert all perfer go other country....
Left those half baked expert .....
Lorry problem also cant manage to settle...
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Lorry got problem meh? What problem? 😎
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ May 15 2025, 07:52 AM)
Put it at Putrajaya bestest
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QUOTE(neo_grayfox @ May 15 2025, 07:58 AM)
Carbon and nuclear storage are totallt diff thing and level wei…
But then im not against nuclear power plant here..
In fact ita good to have advancement, we should have a nuclear power plant..
In fact many do not know Malaysia already have a nuclear research facility for many many years already..
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Yes they are different. But waste is still waste. We have problems with trash. Another waste. Dealing with carbon waste. Another thing. Now have to deal with nuke waste.

Our country ain't that big enough. Whats more the reason SEA are chosen to store waste is because we have a lot of trees.

Now imagine you have to clear lots of land to store either carbon or nuke waste. Those things are underground for 100 years. No one would know if it leaks into soil or not.


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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 15 2025, 08:01 AM)
Looks like a lot of replies here feel the cancer rate and burden in this country not high enough. Can still throttle the carcinogens into the environment.
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My boy here think carcinogens is our biggest cancer source in malaysia lmfao

There’s a bigger cancer in Malaysia and it’s spreading faster than radical cells let me tell you this 🫢
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Hope penang gets it. And as incentive give free electricity to those within 50km radius of the plant

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It's a viable option to address our depleting hydrocarbon resources. Capex is about 10X of solar though.
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lay off the idiot sandwich for a while.

you know malaysia been running nuclear reactor since 1982?
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QUOTE(MGM @ May 15 2025, 07:47 AM)
Kelate is most ideal with sparse population n not much economic value.
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true the constant flood waters will help cool the reactors

and the staff can enjoy free teh tarik with minor radiation

win win situation
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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 15 2025, 08:01 AM)
Looks like a lot of replies here feel the cancer rate and burden in this country not high enough. Can still throttle the carcinogens into the environment.
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With nuclear in the picture, we can implement ev better and this will remove one of the biggest source of carcinogens.
The only thing it won't remove is ignorance.
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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 15 2025, 07:40 AM)
More stupidity  from pmx. Why the hell  we need nuclear when there is palm oil biomass, solar and hydro? Clean and renewable.
Looks like this was decided time ago as the price for Russia to take the blame for mh17.
Incoming:  imported  Chernobyl 2. Which state will be the lucky one.? Hope Penang.
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Should join venture with Indonesia and put in Riau Island, in between Peninsular and East Malaysia.
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malaysia can get ready for this
maintenance all can do one....

it's the people that's the problem now lol
this bunch of rojak population hard to manage
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 15 2025, 07:42 AM)
Do you know nuclear reactor has advance so much that it is very safe to operate. Just let nuclear expert run the show
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i suggest put at PAS state since they wan jobs
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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 15 2025, 07:40 AM)
More stupidity  from pmx. Why the hell  we need nuclear when there is palm oil biomass, solar and hydro? Clean and renewable.
Looks like this was decided time ago as the price for Russia to take the blame for mh17.
Incoming:  imported  Chernobyl 2. Which state will be the lucky one.? Hope Penang.
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should use French tech instead of Russian
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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 15 2025, 07:40 AM)
More stupidity  from pmx. Why the hell  we need nuclear when there is palm oil biomass, solar and hydro? Clean and renewable.
Looks like this was decided time ago as the price for Russia to take the blame for mh17.
Incoming:  imported  Chernobyl 2. Which state will be the lucky one.? Hope Penang.
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gg tnb
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1 at selangor
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QUOTE(neo_grayfox @ May 15 2025, 07:46 AM)
Nuclear is considered as green or clean power generation cause they dont produce carbon. Downside is really need good nuclear waste disposal facilities.

Malaysia being a general safe zone from natural disaster is actually good to have nuclear power plant. Just that Malaysia lack of maintenance culture is the worrying part.

For those always against this would be the same pple who are always against technology and advancement
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learn from french, their waste disposal is pretty good. the wastes are made into solid blocks
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ May 15 2025, 08:52 AM)
Perlis la 
6 person only....
Anything happen no much lost....
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How dare you not consider those lifes of Thai mois that live next door?

Thaimoi > Perlis

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QUOTE(knwong @ May 15 2025, 07:42 AM)
Do you know nuclear reactor has advance so much that it is very safe to operate. Just let nuclear expert run the show
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nuclear expert from abroad - maybe
local 3rd world pay-peanuts-get-monkeys expert - Welcome to Nuclear Swamp land radioactive theme park !

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ May 15 2025, 08:08 AM)
My boy here think carcinogens is our biggest cancer source in malaysia lmfao

There’s a bigger cancer in Malaysia and it’s spreading faster than radical cells let me tell you this 🫢
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This is where clarity is needed in the thinking of the rakyat as we are faced with 2 apparent kinds of evil. One kind that undermines public well being and safety through policy making that is entrenched in conflicts of interest. On the other hand some feel their moral and religious liberty is being threatened. Which is worse? Let him who has a brain to think figure it out.
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Learn from murica or British la. They got no serious incident so far
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If done right, nuclear energy is one of the best sources of energy that is available to us right now. Solar and wind are unpredictable. Hydro is damaging to environment.
We should definitely have renewable yes. But nuclear is one of the best stable, controllable source of energy.

The nuclear waste problem is often overblown. Most people don't know how little waste there is and it's typically stored on site. If we learn from the French where they reprocess spent fuel, the amount of waste is really miniscule.

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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 15 2025, 07:40 AM)
More stupidity  from pmx. Why the hell  we need nuclear when there is palm oil biomass, solar and hydro? Clean and renewable.
Looks like this was decided time ago as the price for Russia to take the blame for mh17.
Incoming:  imported  Chernobyl 2. Which state will be the lucky one.? Hope Penang.
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Don't be an @5swipw. Nuclear is a must.




Don't bodo clean energy must accept nuklear soon we will use fusion from Chyna selamat digunakan.


Even if meltdown biar. We make a plant near Singkiepork sahaja let them protest. Blow then they die Southern state die.
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QUOTE(pakmulau @ May 15 2025, 10:07 AM)
Learn from murica or British la. They got no serious incident so far
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US don't reprocess their spent fuel though. So not an ideal side to learn from. I think UK stopped or planning to stop reprocessing too.
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QUOTE(JustForCheonging @ May 15 2025, 08:54 AM)
1 at selangor
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Kaw dim we solved electricity issue
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Bcoz this place use a lot power..
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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 15 2025, 07:40 AM)
More stupidity  from pmx. Why the hell  we need nuclear when there is palm oil biomass, solar and hydro? Clean and renewable.
Looks like this was decided time ago as the price for Russia to take the blame for mh17.
Incoming:  imported  Chernobyl 2. Which state will be the lucky one.? Hope Penang.
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Just so TS know, palm oil biomass is a no no as far as western opinions is concerned. Palm oil itself is bad for environment, so the west not gonna count the biomass as green energy.

As for solar, please force solar installers to lower price lah. The panels are supposed to be cheap because the suppliers are forced to flood the market as they lost the western market. whistling.gif
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Page 3 already but no one highlight basic point.

A huge chunk of Bolehland electricity is generated by coal. That's the worst kind of polluting source for electricity generation.

If can switch to other fossil fuel source, long ago already switch.

Ok to burn coal until when?

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...minister/168785

There is only 1 other source that can match coal's low cost electricity generation. No prizes for guessing which source.

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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ May 15 2025, 11:23 AM)
Page 3 already but no one highlight basic point.

A huge chunk of Bolehland electricity is generated by coal. That's the worst kind of polluting source for electricity generation.

If can switch to other fossil fuel source, long ago already switch.

Ok to burn coal until when?

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...minister/168785

There is only 1 other source that can match coal's low cost electricity generation. No prizes for guessing which source.
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Coal has been around for many decades and its dependency will not go away just because someone found a new source of energy

Renewable energy has yet to reach mass adoption level and a lot of countries are still dependent on the traditional coal and fossil fuel, it’s slow but we are getting there

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QUOTE(Aparaa @ May 15 2025, 07:44 AM)
Biomas, hydro mana cukup bro. Malaysia hosting ai digital centres, industrial factories, etc. Going to need more energy in the future.
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The government does not do good enough in Solar energy for domestic and Commercial.

Lower the installation cost of Solar to encourage every one to have it. Reduce on TNB energy. So that the quota can give to essential industry.
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ May 15 2025, 11:32 AM)
Coal has been around for many decades and its dependency will not go away just because someone found a new source of energy
Think about it. Malaysia' peak period electricity generation is 16GWh of which ~half is from coal. Every GW of nuclear power reduces coal use by 12.5%. The largest nuke power plant in Japan generates 8 GW, China's largest generates 6 GW.

1 site in Bolehland can replace coal use (or at least put it into reserve capacity).

Why cannot remove coal dependency? Its not because of technical constraint.
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QUOTE(vhs @ May 15 2025, 11:05 AM)
Just so TS know, palm oil biomass is a no no as far as western opinions is concerned. Palm oil itself is bad for environment, so the west not gonna count the biomass as green energy.

As for solar, please force solar installers to lower price lah. The panels are supposed to be cheap because the suppliers are forced to flood the market as they lost the western market. whistling.gif
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West have a lot of opinions. Some valid some biased. But at the end of the day when you get hit with cancer West not gonna pay for your treatment.
I am not saying palm oil/coal is good but between that and nuclear I rather choose the former.
I myself use solar 100%. The power is damn good but with the limitations of night time/dark skies. But you win some and lose some. In the long term solar is preferred.
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 15 2025, 07:42 AM)
Do you know nuclear reactor has advance so much that it is very safe to operate. Just let nuclear expert run the show
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Certified and accredited nuclear expert.
You must be forgotten that in /k/ there are alot of /k/tard instantly become nuclear expert when news agency report nuclear reactor disaster.
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nuclear plant will not fly with the very unsophisticated population in Malaysia, that prefers to go drink morning coffee.
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yes, the main reason is because cannot convince population. No technical constraint. Current & future generaiton of nuclear power generation is safe. Past accidents all involve early generation nuclear tech.

However convincing population of safety is an uphill task and the real reason why it can't take off.

...even in an educated country like sinkieland, cannot convince. Bolehland even more difficult.
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QUOTE(MGM @ May 15 2025, 07:47 AM)
Kelate is most ideal with sparse population n not much economic value.
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putrajaya the best.. if anything happen then average IQ of malaysia population will go up..
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uneducated population will think of siting nuke plants in habited locations.

There are so many islands. Why cannot site on island eg Pulau Aur (60km from coast)?

There are no technical constraints except an uneducated population.

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QUOTE(knwong @ May 15 2025, 07:42 AM)
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malaysia got?
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ May 15 2025, 12:06 PM)
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Established more than 50 years ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_Nuclear_Agency
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because reneweable energy are not efficient. duhhhh
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ May 15 2025, 08:06 AM)
Yes they are different. But waste is still waste. We have problems with trash. Another waste. Dealing with carbon waste. Another thing. Now have to deal with nuke waste.

Our country ain't that big enough. Whats more the reason SEA are chosen to store waste is because we have a lot of trees.

Now imagine you have to clear lots of land to store either carbon or nuke waste. Those things are underground for 100 years. No one would know if it leaks into soil or not.
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Urban household waste also cannot settle..
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After we got nukliar plant, bill tnb will turun?
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 15 2025, 12:08 PM)
You mean all those fellows there got gaji buta 50 years.? No wonder we need nuclear. Have to pay gaji buta/pencen buta.
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Do you know nuclear reactor has advance so much that it is very safe to operate. Just let nuclear expert run the show
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A lot comments that assure modern nuclear reactors very safe one. But there is always the first case and we know boleh land famous for many first infamies( mh370, 1mdb).
The real issue is that of governance because from what we see so far if there occurs some kind of fallout from reactor you can bet your last penny that there will be no transparency and accountability instead a lot of sweeping things under the carpet and dishing out goodies to keep victims happy. Look at putra heights. Till today no sound. And Petronas is supposedly world class.
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 15 2025, 12:08 PM)
to operate a reactor is 2 different thing duh

we also have space agency
doesnt mean we are as good as NASA

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Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant
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That one is Gen II in which the design is from 1960...In which start commissioned on 1971...

Imagine how long since then and how advanced the tech now...

Current design is Gen 4 and China is the 1st one to commissioned it on 2023:

The world's first Generation IV nuclear power plant starts its commercial operation in China

In term of clean energy, nuclear is really the way forward while other method such as Hydro, Solar and Wind can be supplementary.

If Malaysia really want to go for DC and EV, eventually really need nuclear.
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Nuclear is the cleanest most efficient energy source we have lol.

So many ktards still living in 1980s
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takut accident, jangan bawak kereta/motor
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takut accident, jangan bawak kereta/motor
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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 15 2025, 08:40 AM)
More stupidity  from pmx. Why the hell  we need nuclear when there is palm oil biomass, solar and hydro? Clean and renewable.
Looks like this was decided time ago as the price for Russia to take the blame for mh17.
Incoming:  imported  Chernobyl 2. Which state will be the lucky one.? Hope Penang.
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 15 2025, 08:42 AM)
Do you know nuclear reactor has advance so much that it is very safe to operate. Just let nuclear expert run the show
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advance? do you know those with nuclear reactor are having headache on how to handle the radioactive waste?
look deeper and google it and find the cost to contain the radioactive waste.
dun be stupid and woke cos of green energy.....nothing is perfect in this world

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i know one state in malaysia that desperately needs this
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I dont like the idea, but if you all persisted, please build it near Sink-kapore
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Please build 1 in putrajaya...
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Dulu the radioactive stuff hilang, sudah jumpa belum?
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Long time ago, I had a chance lawatan sambil belajar. The proposed location at that time is bukit merah ipoh
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damage done by 1982 Mitsubishi Chemical's refinery still not enough?

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the north state though every week has some sort of earth hour
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damage done by 1982 Mitsubishi Chemical's refinery still not enough?
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That was 13 or 14 years ago. I did asked why, but no feedback from that officer at that time. It was during my uni lawatan sambil belajar day trip to their office. Not sure whether it will still be the current plan or not if this nuclear project is a GO now.
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QUOTE(Deathscythe@@ @ May 15 2025, 03:25 PM)
That was 13 or 14 years ago. I did asked why, but no feedback from that officer at that time. It was during my uni lawatan sambil belajar day trip to their office. Not sure whether it will still be the current plan or not if this nuclear project is a GO now.
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dead town wanna kasi dead lagi, for fukkin sekend time

ppl kena cancer, born with defects

even that time gomen also protek jenpunis company kaw kaw until ppl there brought the company to court

gomen that time: protek kaw kaw, talk shit say no issue safe bla bla bla
ppl there that time: protest kaw kaw

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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 15 2025, 07:40 AM)
More stupidity  from pmx. Why the hell  we need nuclear when there is palm oil biomass, solar and hydro? Clean and renewable.
Looks like this was decided time ago as the price for Russia to take the blame for mh17.
Incoming:  imported  Chernobyl 2. Which state will be the lucky one.? Hope Penang.
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We are big in data Centers. We are trying to push for EV mass update

Both require big upgrade for our National Grid

Renewables are a big scam and not enviromentally friendly

Fossil fuels are price volatile, sourced from foreign sources and contribute to climate change

We invest in Gen 4 reactors and horium reactors will make our power supply ecosystem rock solid and price competetive

No Earthquake risk, no typhoon risk.

Go for nuclear. Sooner the better
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QUOTE(DValentine @ May 15 2025, 03:28 PM)
dead town wanna kasi dead lagi, for fukkin sekend time

ppl kena cancer, born with defects

even that time gomen also protek jenpunis company kaw kaw until ppl there brought the company to court

gomen that time: protek kaw kaw, talk shit say no issue safe bla bla bla
ppl there that time: protest kaw kaw
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Perhaps that area is currently the least population. Risk assessment point of view. Least risky compared to the rest of the locations. Again, that was when we asked 1st project ya.. So 2nd 3rd unknown...
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Please build 1 in putrajaya...
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No lah.

Ideal locations are by the sea, along the South facing Singapore and West Coat. By the sea for easier ship transport of materials and waste. Preferably adjacent to current coal plants.

So JB, Port Dickson, ,Port Klang, Lumut and Penang
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advance? do you know those with nuclear reactor are having headache on how to handle the radioactive waste?
look deeper and google it and find the cost to contain the radioactive waste.
dun be stupid and woke cos of green energy.....nothing is perfect in this world
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China Aims To Operate World’s First Hybrid Fusion-Fission Nuclear Plant By 2030

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TS stupid AF.

The nuclear reactor planned for Malaysia is actually a SMR type (Go read yourself). It can bring huge benefit in terms of power security amidst rising demand. It is also very much carbon neutral, not completely, but yeah.


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Build it on offshore islands. Security also safer.

Relocate any inhabitants so even if accident = no risk to inhabitants.

Large scale emergency evacuation zone is 20km. Offshore islands more than 20km from next nearest island.

Why must be on mainland?
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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 15 2025, 07:40 AM)
More stupidity  from pmx. Why the hell  we need nuclear when there is palm oil biomass, solar and hydro? Clean and renewable.
Looks like this was decided time ago as the price for Russia to take the blame for mh17.
Incoming:  imported  Chernobyl 2. Which state will be the lucky one.? Hope Penang.
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do you know 82% of bolehland energy still come from burning coal and gas????

renewable only 18% boi.

kurang otak realli bahaya
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nope, that state has a surplus of electricity that they're selling to SG

the north state though every week has some sort of earth hour
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this and if you google got plenty more
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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ May 15 2025, 04:03 PM)
Build it on offshore islands. Security also safer.

Relocate any inhabitants so even if accident = no risk to inhabitants.

Large scale emergency evacuation zone is 20km. Offshore islands more than 20km from next nearest island.

Why must be on mainland?
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Best is go for small modular reactors because they use passive safety, which do not require external power source or operator intervention.

Fukushima nuclear disaster happened because the backup generators were flooded by the tsunami and couldn't function to cool the reactors.
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QUOTE(trusol @ May 15 2025, 04:46 PM)
Better hope China has success with their Thorium Small Modular Reactor and Fusion-Fission Hybrid Reactor which produces far lower nuclear waste.

China Aims To Operate World’s First Hybrid Fusion-Fission Nuclear Plant By 2030
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yupe...but thorium wont be so near future wo...
just beh tahan people screaming about green energy by looking on the surface only..............those wokeshit mind....
without knowing the handling part is not so green and cost a bomb...kek

edit: i bet these wokeshit doesnt know nuclear reactor do have lifespan.....

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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 15 2025, 07:40 AM)
More stupidity  from pmx. Why the hell  we need nuclear when there is palm oil biomass, solar and hydro? Clean and renewable.
Looks like this was decided time ago as the price for Russia to take the blame for mh17.
Incoming:  imported  Chernobyl 2. Which state will be the lucky one.? Hope Penang.
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u know, nuclear power plant is actually 1 of the cleanest energy bcoz how efficient it is.
the only catch is that u need to know how to manage the waste.
& with advances of technologies from the past half a century, nuclear plant actually pretty safe & waste isn't a lot & easily manageable.

it's just unfortunate that the world "nuclear" is associated with weapon.
if only when scientific market it something else last time, ie, "efficient energy", "super energy", "fusion energy", every1 will onboard.
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buat kat serawak, since plenty of land there and they aim to become energy hub
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QUOTE(sunami @ May 15 2025, 04:18 PM)
yupe...but thorium wont be so near future wo...
just beh tahan people screaming about green energy by looking on the surface only..............those wokeshit mind....
without knowing the handling part is not so green and cost a bomb...kek
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If China successful they would be very busy installing hundreds of Thorium SMR around China. Other countries can wait long long unless we at very friendly terms can get it faster and/or cheaper.

So far they have good progress:

China refuels thorium reactor without shutdown


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QUOTE(trusol @ May 15 2025, 05:25 PM)
If China successful they would be very busy installing hundreds of Thorium SMR around China. Other countries can wait long long unless we at very friendly terms can get it faster and/or cheaper.

So far they have good progress:

China refuels thorium reactor without shutdown
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yeah...things like this...need time to prove it rite?......unless you wanted to be a white mice. biggrin.gif
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yeah...things like this...need time to prove it rite?......unless you wanted to be a white mice.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ May 15 2025, 04:18 PM)
u know, nuclear power plant is actually 1 of the cleanest energy bcoz how efficient it is.
the only catch is that u need to know how to manage the waste.
& with advances of technologies from the past half a century, nuclear plant actually pretty safe & waste isn't a lot & easily manageable.

it's just unfortunate that the world "nuclear" is associated with weapon.
if only when scientific market it something else last time, ie, "efficient energy", "super energy", "fusion energy", every1 will onboard.
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but malaysia still living in 2000.
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Best is go for small modular reactors because they use passive safety, which do not require external power source or operator intervention.

Fukushima nuclear disaster happened because the backup generators were flooded by the tsunami and couldn't function to cool the reactors.
SMR is only for those small countries that don't have much land.

Bolehland has 4675km of coastline and 330000 km2 of land area. Cannot find 1 small minimally inhabited plot to house a power plant?

The French EPR or CAP 1400 AP1000 derivatives are examples of large but safe nuke reactors that have perfect commercial track records. Instead of hundreds of reactors to manage, just operate 1-2 reactor. Outsource it to professionals first whilst developing talent inhouse.

One twin set already provides 20-25% of electricity needs.

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QUOTE(knwong @ May 15 2025, 07:42 AM)
Do you know nuclear reactor has advance so much that it is very safe to operate. Just let nuclear expert run the show
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My doubt with Malaysia building and operating a commercial nuclear reactor, is how many songlap layers is gonna be affecting the project, and will this negatively impact the operation and safety of said reactor.
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sebut nuclear je fikir b*m ka ? aiyooo apa mcm mau maju ?
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didn't we have a small 1MW nuclear reactor in bangi, commissioned since 1982
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didn't we have a small 1MW nuclear reactor in bangi, commissioned since 1982
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As usual talk is cheap and we have people with 0 experience of handling reactors saying a lot.

If pmx is so convinced about its safety prove it by siting it in Cheras within View of his house. And all those who think it is safe can also shift there.
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We can have nuclear energy and still have those things too y'know? Especially considering nuclear power have been tried & tested

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Spain is about to waste billions to dismantle all 7 of their nuclear power stations by 2035.

So I don't know why Spain would waste billions to dismantle it and waste even more land and billions of capital to build new renewable energy.
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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 15 2025, 06:16 PM)
As usual talk is cheap and we have people with 0 experience of handling reactors saying a lot.

If  pmx is so convinced about its safety  prove it by siting  it in Cheras within View of his house. And all those who think it is safe can also shift there.
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Please make the reactor to be in northeastern side... always got banjir... and alot of water for reactor cooling...
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Do you know nuclear reactor has advance so much that it is very safe to operate. Just let nuclear expert run the show
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which state are you from? can we put it there?
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Obviously because it is basically the same process of fusion/fission that is used to make nuclear weapons. You may not end up with a mushroom cloud but a meltdown is possible with all the contingent contamination.
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Alot of people hear the taboo word “nuclear” will think of kaboom and radiation… cause watch too much of Hollywood films …


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Do you know nuclear reactor has advance so much that it is very safe to operate. Just let nuclear expert run the show
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Do you know nuclear reactor has advance so much that it is very safe to operate. Just let nuclear expert run the show
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ May 15 2025, 04:18 PM)
u know, nuclear power plant is actually 1 of the cleanest energy bcoz how efficient it is.
the only catch is that u need to know how to manage the waste.
& with advances of technologies from the past half a century, nuclear plant actually pretty safe & waste isn't a lot & easily manageable.

it's just unfortunate that the world "nuclear" is associated with weapon.
if only when scientific market it something else last time, ie, "efficient energy", "super energy", "fusion energy", every1 will onboard.
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sorry, nuclear power is green but not clean!
the highly radioactive byproducts is so dirty and difficult to clean even after thousands years!
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Unless the state where we place the nuclear power plant provides free or heavily subsidized electricity...
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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 15 2025, 06:16 PM)
As usual talk is cheap and we have people with 0 experience of handling reactors saying a lot.

If  pmx is so convinced about its safety  prove it by siting  it in Cheras within View of his house. And all those who think it is safe can also shift there.
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Human advances by making mistakes and set new regulations and processes to ensure mistakes not repeated. Over the decades IAEA sets a lot of guidelines to ensure safety including distance like 10km radius from populated area, no fly zone, etc geographical guidelines … unsure where in Malaysia fit the guidelines but definitely not behind anyone of our house… to build nuclear reactor is not something can buy on Lazada and build, need a lot of agreement, certification, compliance and approval from local and international agencies to sign off qualifications.

Even if Msia want to do also may not able to find the right place to do.


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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ May 15 2025, 04:18 PM)
u know, nuclear power plant is actually 1 of the cleanest energy bcoz how efficient it is.
the only catch is that u need to know how to manage the waste.
& with advances of technologies from the past half a century, nuclear plant actually pretty safe & waste isn't a lot & easily manageable.

it's just unfortunate that the world "nuclear" is associated with weapon.
if only when scientific market it something else last time, ie, "efficient energy", "super energy", "fusion energy", every1 will onboard.
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which country have nuclear fusion reactor as power source??

nuclear fission of plutonium is just "clean" because it does not produce standard greenhouse gases, but it not environment friendly as it produce radioactive waste. if everyone just ignore the waste because it is "contained" is just being ignorance. sooner or later they need to dispose it somewhere... and end up basically you using "empty space" to support it..

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QUOTE(brkli @ May 15 2025, 07:28 PM)
which country have nuclear fusion reactor as power source??

nuclear fission of plutonium is just "clean" because it does not produce standard greenhouse gases, but it not environment friendly as it produce radioactive waste. if everyone just ignore the waste because it is "contained" is just being ignorance. sooner or later they need to dispose it somewhere... and end up basically you using "empty space" to support it..
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i would argued that using nucler plant to produce green electricity, & strore waste somewhere, can last longer, & do much less damage to earth than burning fuel & fossil.

i'm not saying that nuclear power doesn't hav drawbck.
i'm saying the ratio of good:bad so much differ that it outweigh any source of energy we hav today.
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Do you know nuclear reactor has advance so much that it is very safe to operate. Just let nuclear expert run the show
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Mmm let see japan with bunch of expert.


Malaysia only got cut corner expert
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post May 15 2025, 11:25 PM

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Kelate is most ideal with sparse population n not much economic value.
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Yes.

Facing south chyna sea it made the waste disposal easier, just in case.
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post May 15 2025, 11:31 PM

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I think building new nuclear power plant would be safe for our generation, but you know la this is Malaysia, 30-40 years later what will happen? Just look on the recent Putra Heights gas pipe incident as the example.

Those nuclear power plant usually had disaster and leak incident after operating for 20 years above right? Especially long term maintenance work, when new everyone take extra caution, after few years people tend to "tidak apa, lalai, tutup mata pass checking etc"
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/k "experts" at the helm complaining about everything yet can't do well in life.

Kecian
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Germany shut down its last nuclear reactors in 2023, Malaysia nak build baru
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The ideal place for it are near industrial area and on an island. So penang it is people. From there we can connect the power grid to semenanjung area.
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QUOTE(SiakapRM1000 @ May 15 2025, 02:35 PM)
I dont like the idea, but if you all persisted, please build it near Sink-kapore
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Why not sarawak

Nobody live there its all jungle

Best remote place to build nuclear plant
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Germany shut down its last nuclear reactors in 2023, Malaysia nak build baru
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Germany shutting down its nuclear plants is the most backward thing they have done
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QUOTE(Raddus @ May 16 2025, 07:32 AM)
Germany shutting down its nuclear plants is the most backward thing they have done
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While Germany’s nuclear exit is a bold and politically popular move. people are worried
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France, Sweden, China and India are expanding nuclear

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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ May 15 2025, 05:10 PM)
SMR is only for those small countries that don't have much land.

Bolehland has 4675km of coastline and 330000 km2 of land area. Cannot find 1 small minimally inhabited plot to house a power plant?

The French EPR or CAP 1400 AP1000 derivatives are examples of large but safe nuke reactors that have perfect commercial track records. Instead of hundreds of reactors to manage, just operate 1-2 reactor. Outsource it to professionals first whilst developing talent inhouse.

One twin set already provides 20-25% of electricity needs.
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SMR is good for those without access to the sea.

And SMR is good for those with very poor maintenance mindset because it employs passive safety, anything goes wrong it shuts down on its own.

Large nuclear reactors take too long to build.


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Equator country tamau guna home solar

Meanwhile europe die2 wanna use solar even get sum 4 months per year
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QUOTE(AgogoLatoto @ May 17 2025, 04:22 AM)
Equator country tamau guna home solar

Meanwhile europe die2 wanna use solar even get sum 4 months per year
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They have gone full retard, Spain plan to DISMANTLE all 7 nuclear power stations by 2035, and then waste even more money by grabbing farm land from farmers to build even more of those fake green renewable energy.

So everything will be expensive thanks to their retarded politicians, energy and food.
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how much to build and maintain a nuke plant?

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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 15 2025, 07:40 AM)
More stupidity  from pmx. Why the hell  we need nuclear when there is palm oil biomass, solar and hydro? Clean and renewable.
Looks like this was decided time ago as the price for Russia to take the blame for mh17.
Incoming:  imported  Chernobyl 2. Which state will be the lucky one.? Hope Penang.
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 15 2025, 07:42 AM)
Do you know nuclear reactor has advance so much that it is very safe to operate. Just let nuclear expert run the show
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https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Energy/Chi...nerator-by-2030

China on track to become top nuclear power generator by 2030

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ May 15 2025, 07:27 PM)
Human advances by making mistakes and set new regulations and processes to ensure mistakes not repeated. Over the decades IAEA sets a lot of guidelines to ensure safety including distance like 10km radius from populated area, no fly zone, etc geographical guidelines … unsure where in Malaysia fit the guidelines but definitely not behind anyone of our house… to build nuclear reactor is not something can buy on Lazada and build, need a lot of agreement, certification, compliance and approval from local and international agencies to sign off qualifications.

Even if Msia want to do also may not able to find the right place to do.
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got 20k job in nuclear plant where I don't need degree to sign up? if yes, call me.
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They have gone full retard, Spain plan to DISMANTLE all 7 nuclear power stations by 2035, and then waste even more money by grabbing farm land from farmers to build even more of those fake green renewable energy.

So everything will be expensive thanks to their retarded politicians, energy and food.
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Maybe they know something we don’t

Remember, research journals knowledge are only limited to what’s published
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The Chinese certainly know something that others don't.

Hualong-1 passes final test
https://glassalmanac.com/us-on-high-alert-a...ising-tensions/

7 Hualong-1 reactor already operational (5 in China, 2 in Pakistan). 13 under construction. 8 more approved for construction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hualong_One

1st unit already passed 1000 days of sale operation, having generation 37 billion kwh in that time (3 years).
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2025-05-15/First...ZNtMVxyE/p.html

Bolehland generates 180 billion kwh a year (of which almost half by coal).

....and China are now developing Hualong-2 which would be cheaper.
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The last nuclear reactor in Taiwan powers down tomorrow. This just exemplifies everything that went wrong with Taiwan.

The KMT were oppressive authoritarians, but they had brilliant technocrats like Sun yun-suan and KT Lee. That’s why in the 80s while Taiwan was literally the Barbie doll capital of the world (80 percent made here IIRC) it was also running on 50+% nuclear power and establishing a chip industry. This was back in the 80s.

Then the DPP rose and their grievances were very legitimate and their desire for democracy very honorable but we went from a govt led by engineers and technocrats to a govt led by activists and lawyers.

They saw the nuclear power plants not as critical infrastructure…but the physical manifestation of the KMT’s toxic and unnatural rule over Taiwan. They weaponized the fear of radiation and made a « nuclear free homeland » a part of their party constitution.

Even right now, when it is glaringly obvious we need the juice, they can’t find a way to back down on it. You can’t site a 5MW data center in North Taiwan we are so dry. What AI future? Yet Lai loves to drone on about how we must have « AI sovereignty ». How?

Smart at politics, retarded in governance. I fear if the DPP continue to hold power, Taiwan is just going to turn into the Philippines.

People forget…at one point the Philippines was more prosperous than Taiwan. People went THERE to find their pot of gold the way the Filipinos come here now, although not in such numbers.

The Philippines was the US post-war Asian darling. Taiwan still in grinding poverty. Our girls made their beds as domestic help, although we also had the option of opening little shops and such. The tables didn’t turn until Taiwan’s economic miracle in the 80/90s.

The DPP had so much handed to them that they seem determined to destroy. Meanwhile, all they seem to be good for is importing wokey-woke DEI concepts and copying the American playbook to weaponize the constititional court. Rainbow Boba Democracy!

That’s why even though I love Taiwan, I’m going start calling it Retard Island because turning off ready-built nuclear when you’re vulnerable to a blockade and short power anyhow is the peak of retardation.

And I’ll keep calling it Retard Island until the Retardation ceases.

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ May 23 2025, 04:26 PM)
So they are making a mistake. One country maybe but we have other countries doing the same. Its a red flag. But why does greedy capitalist who are only interested in profits care?

 

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