As per title, other than corporate whistle blowing channel, can external legal action be taken?
Recently a client executive employee has been exposing company's contract prices to one of 3rd party employee which she is quite close to resulting dissatisfaction of the 3rd party employee towards his employer, not just that he go and tell other 3rd party employee about the prices.

This post has been edited by Rorschach85: May 15 2025, 07:03 AM

got evidence anot first? if got, contact loyar see can establish a strong case then sue

if just rumour, nothing u can do

Verbal interview with a few lots confirmed it, just a matter on how to proof. Of course thar exec will deny it.

then u shud look at how to collect more solid evidence first. your loyar will tell u what u shud look for

good luck

Corporate espionage

I always thought there is justice and believe the law
But the justice and law only play for the riches...

Not strong case enough cause verbal only
And don’t expect others to be witness for you unless they get paid heavily

corporate,, check with your legal and compliance department

right..

Hearsay evidence is inadmissible unless an exception to the hearsay rule applies. Tough one in this case

You want this person out, don't care for what

Tell HR to check her background or any conflict of interest or any major offences that you can dismiss her/him

But take note, they also have lawyers to sue you.

Even after some settlement, they still can sue you if your separation letter is not mention some details.

Dismissal must follow my the book if you want to do it correctly.

This post has been edited by azbro: May 15 2025, 08:37 AM

What do u mean? U mean contract staff got to know that his salary 4k, his supplying company takes 8k?

U want take legal action to someone, you gather all solid and verify evidence

/k all specialty consultant

Verbal is not solid enuf.

you fuck people over can, people fuck you over cannot?

podah

Something like that, but doesn't have that kind of margin la

that's why summon /k/ detectives since so many all rounder pros here

maybe a proof of she access the pnc data? or she print it out? or any log/record to support ur case
verbal alone cannot
waste money bayar lolyar je, unless ur company ada inhouse

Need proof to be a legal case. Cannot simply terminate as well coz will be a bigger issue with HR ministry. Btw, the lady still single?

ada bukti like screen shot proof of data been leak out. baru cakap. kalau voice shj too bad

too bad..

My company tried before to take legal action over an ex sales staff who jump ship and leak our current price to competitor.

Lawyer advise unless the other side willing to provide evidence that the ex sales staff has physically shown his ex company price list to them, there's no strong case for information leak.

This post has been edited by Mixxomon: May 15 2025, 10:05 AM

I guess we are on the same boat then..

inside my sales line also same thing, everyone exposes competitors pricing to others but its not the end of the world anyway. theres more to pricing as sole reason of winning a deal

alot of undertable shit working esp in large deals wan

A hypocritical also because my company themselves poach competitors staff and ask them what's the market price like on their side.
After a while it's just accepted there's no secret in this world anymore. Play fair and give quality product. If you overprice eventually customer also will find out.

Only the chinaman apek still refuse to accept this reality, shouting NDA, betrayal, lack of loyalty and lawyer and threaten legal action all.

This post has been edited by Mixxomon: May 15 2025, 10:13 AM

As salary man, of course we have that kind of mindset, business owners will protect their own trade secret ricebowl with their life cos that's all they have.
Don't say chinaman, even the likes of Apple & Samsung also the same for example.

This post has been edited by Rorschach85: May 15 2025, 10:17 AM

Ktards talent pool can give tons of ideas 💡

Ok
If u wanna try u have to play by the book
Need to know what agreement she sign before when getting the job

Does it mention about against joining / disclosing to competitor or company of same fields

U can use this clause to find fault in her
Terminate legally and then get lawyer to sue her
Long case to drag

Did the client sign NDA?

wat the heck is a 3rd party employee?
wat the heck is a client executive employee?

exactly..

Manpower supply contract u have an executive on the client side managing the 3rd party employees (contract staff) timesheet, issuance of purchase orders, verifying the supply company monthly invoices. So that exec knows alot.
In this case that exec is good friend with 1 of the contract staff, hence bocoring the p&c info.

normal practice in small offices. my old company also like this but instead of only 1 person they share info and discuss p&c matters at pantry like what only. mainly type M like to to do this. it's a puak thing.

margin lower than that? if yes, why bising?

leaking confidential info to competitor, hope she rots in jail.

Trade secret lor, u openly let the world know your contract rates? U upload on fb? Linkin?
There's a clause on confidentiality in every contract

no, bro. nowadays everything is open. even profit margins are being shared.
the world is moving to more collaborative trade practices.

you should have standard tier pay packages that is fair for all your contract workers.
if they find out how much the client is paying you, you can tell them that this is the standard rate and if they dont like it, they can move to a different company because you cant change the standard rate.

this kind of thing only becomes and issue if you are actually trying to con someone out of their rightful pay package. if you are being fair, then its easy to resolve.

im in oil & gas and our new contracts are mostly cost plus basis nowadays.
clients know you need to make a profit to be sustainable so they are fine with fair margins.
your contract workers need a broker to find work for them. its a win-win situation for all even if your margins are known.