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 Yesterday, I witness an Axia Drift'd+Walled

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jaycee1
post May 13 2025, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(KevProp @ May 13 2025, 03:47 PM)
when driving know ur car limit and stop all the imaginary thinking you bought the best deal can fight with those better car even self-modded think can fight the engineer who designed the car.
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Actually. any newer cars on the road grips better and handles better than a regular owner will ever know. A stock car will have handling characteristics to allow drivers to more easily control the car already built in (milder, softer suspension geometry, VSA/etc).

Then abeng driver go and modify this modify that, stiffen everything up and then find out the hard way when suddenly the drop off is so sharp and you discover you don't have the reflexes to control a "sharp" handling car.

I used to run rings at a track around modded cars with my rolly polly stock suspension car with cheap tyres, because with that much warning, I can drive at 100% at all time. If i go over, I can always recover, compared to modded cars that just goes into snap oversteer if it runs over a pebble.


The other problem is the driver tends to put in the wrong inputs and causes the cars to go into something stupid. Mostly too much speed. 2nd, panic brake at the hint of oversteer....


That said, expansion strips and rumble strips on highway corners is a really stupid implementation. Rumble strips should be before the corner to let the drivers slow down BEFORE the corner. Combination of corner lateral force, instability of the rumble strips and the driver either braking or lifting off in the middle of a corner is asking for disaster.



jaycee1
post May 13 2025, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ May 13 2025, 05:34 PM)
All braking has to be COMPLETED before entering the corner to follow "slow in fast out" pressing the rear tyres down then tarak issue
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For the layman yes. But it's not entirely correct. Nor quickest way around the corner.... Nor safest. Yes, most of the braking should be done before you get to the corner, but you should not stop braking, instead you should gradually "trail" off braking to the apex.

Those with advance training will know to trail brake and hold it later into a corner, and the transition from braking to throttle is very quick. In fact those that actually know how to drive would prefer a slight oversteer condition possible from trail braking (easier to recover if you got skills) rather than understeer.

Front tyres do the steering, you need partial and slight braking force to maintain weight transfer at the front wheels for grip for the initial turn in. Not enough weight up front may result in harder to recover understeer.

I have to emphasize gradual and partial, too much too late and you can induce oversteer. It's an advanced technique that takes years of track experience to perfect.

Like I said before. Proper and correct driving technique can often be unintuitive. For example, if your car starts fishtailing... The correct recovery on a fwd car is off the brakes and on the gas. Completely the opposite of what most people will do, with is more braking.

Just my 2c.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: May 13 2025, 07:17 PM

 

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