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post May 13 2025, 03:44 PM, updated 8 months ago

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I think I was on some DUKE highway coming back from Kepong.
Was nearing Toll Booth to pay for RFID, most likely Axia hit the mini bumper thought lost control and slammed breaks and dejavu Initial D, and drifted and walled.
Luckily no upcar dropped down.



sekian terima kasih.
70mai 1080p rear camera abit useless. can't see buy car plate.

Pretty sure at 0:29 mark, even I slowed down @ 60km/h very significantly, this bumper design seems abit too dangerous.
I drove a Bezza and it hit my car real hard.

Can't imagine Axia. more lighter than me, hit the curb be like wtf. and slammed breaks coming in.

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Oh I know this place. When I drove my old Myvi I also almost drifted cause the turn is like a sudden sharp turn
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post May 13 2025, 03:45 PM

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LEL pek the corner so fast.. pandan mukak
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u can actually see the Axia was driving too fast for its own good
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OFFFF..no airbag deployed
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when driving know ur car limit and stop all the imaginary thinking you bought the best deal can fight with those better car even self-modded think can fight the engineer who designed the car.
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post May 13 2025, 03:47 PM

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post May 13 2025, 03:48 PM

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Happened to me once on kesas.

But I drifted into the right wall, scrapped the paint off the rear bumper.

Thankfully didn't hit any other car or fell from the elevated road.
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post May 13 2025, 03:50 PM

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post May 13 2025, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(iSean @ May 13 2025, 03:44 PM)

70mai 1080p rear camera abit useless. can't see buy car plate.
At that distance and lighting 4k camera also cannot see 4D number.


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post May 13 2025, 04:01 PM

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Axia no training kot..
When drift start, lower gear 2 step down, steer back counter direction of drift and kasi accelerator down and pull the head back to course ( ofcourse all this need 2 sec )

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post May 13 2025, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(KevProp @ May 13 2025, 03:47 PM)
when driving know ur car limit and stop all the imaginary thinking you bought the best deal can fight with those better car even self-modded think can fight the engineer who designed the car.
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Actually. any newer cars on the road grips better and handles better than a regular owner will ever know. A stock car will have handling characteristics to allow drivers to more easily control the car already built in (milder, softer suspension geometry, VSA/etc).

Then abeng driver go and modify this modify that, stiffen everything up and then find out the hard way when suddenly the drop off is so sharp and you discover you don't have the reflexes to control a "sharp" handling car.

I used to run rings at a track around modded cars with my rolly polly stock suspension car with cheap tyres, because with that much warning, I can drive at 100% at all time. If i go over, I can always recover, compared to modded cars that just goes into snap oversteer if it runs over a pebble.


The other problem is the driver tends to put in the wrong inputs and causes the cars to go into something stupid. Mostly too much speed. 2nd, panic brake at the hint of oversteer....


That said, expansion strips and rumble strips on highway corners is a really stupid implementation. Rumble strips should be before the corner to let the drivers slow down BEFORE the corner. Combination of corner lateral force, instability of the rumble strips and the driver either braking or lifting off in the middle of a corner is asking for disaster.



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post May 13 2025, 04:04 PM

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want to drive a perodua fast...make sure your brakes are sufficient thn we'll talk
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pipu fast 3 tokyo drift, yini mesti fast 20 Marshia drift.

that was a sharp corner still drive fast, of course drift lo, somemore axia tyre only 165mm width... this axia driver not steady la
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 13 2025, 04:04 PM)
That said, expansion strips and rumble strips on highway corners is a really stupid implementation. Rumble strips should be before the corner to let the drivers slow down BEFORE the corner. Combination of corner lateral force, instability of the rumble strips and the driver either braking or lifting off in the middle of a corner is asking for disaster.
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Betul tu. Memang bangang placement betul2 sebelum atau tengah corner.
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post May 13 2025, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 13 2025, 04:04 PM)
want to drive a perodua fast...make sure your brakes are sufficient thn we'll talk
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this one brake is more than sufficient

if let go of the brake might able to straighten back the car
but usual human reactions is to press brake, and when that doesnt works, press harder

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You moved to penang lioa?
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Too fast and the brake gg

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this one is car fault. after repair, he should sell his axia and bought bmw..bmw can drift this road like a champ

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post May 13 2025, 04:23 PM

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when oversteer, easy on brake. If too much brake weight shifted to front and rear can't gain back traction.

Kasi satu soundtrack for the incident.


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Good la can change nrw car and drift again
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post May 13 2025, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ May 13 2025, 04:11 PM)
You moved to penang lioa?
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balik recently. RTO in sept ya.
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 13 2025, 04:10 PM)
this one brake is more than sufficient

if let go of the brake might able to straighten back the car
but usual human reactions is to press brake, and when that doesnt works, press harder
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nope
most perodua stock brake isn't sufficient at all
proton did better in their braking department instead of skimping it like perodua

u need a brake good enough to slow u down in case u feel you're going way too fast which proton car has no problem doing
proton did handling and braking right, nothing to compensate
meanwhile u need better brakes to compensate the bad handling of perodua if not will be like this case
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 13 2025, 04:37 PM)
nope
most perodua stock brake isn't sufficient at all
proton did better in their braking department instead of skimping it like perodua

u need a brake good enough to slow u down in case u feel you're going way too fast which proton car has no problem doing
proton did handling and braking right, nothing to compensate
meanwhile u need better brakes to compensate the bad handling of perodua if not will be like this case
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what breakpads and breakfluids you recommend?
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ooh not one mention of ling long tyres so far!
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QUOTE(iSean @ May 13 2025, 04:36 PM)
balik recently. RTO in sept ya.
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QUOTE(iSean @ May 13 2025, 04:40 PM)
what breakpads and breakfluids you recommend?
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all my cars right now are using the same compound brake pad right now which is ceramic
different brand but i'll try to find same compound

brake fluid, i still use the same type
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ May 13 2025, 04:23 PM)
when oversteer, easy on brake. If too much brake weight shifted to front and rear can't gain back traction.

Kasi satu soundtrack for the incident.


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laugh.gif was about to ask its wrong soundtrack ... wheres the usual one.
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so huge corner, no empty no other cars also cannot recover biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 13 2025, 04:37 PM)
nope
most perodua stock brake isn't sufficient at all
proton did better in their braking department instead of skimping it like perodua

u need a brake good enough to slow u down in case u feel you're going way too fast which proton car has no problem doing
proton did handling and braking right, nothing to compensate
meanwhile u need better brakes to compensate the bad handling of perodua if not will be like this case
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i've only driven 2 perodua before, both myvi.
one rented in langkawi.
another on is back at my hometown, friend lend me his myvi a couple of times when i'm back and needed car.
the brake really have to step very hard.

both cars, i dont dare to drive pass 60kmh laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
both old cars i'm not sure if they didnt maintain the car well or its expected.
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 13 2025, 04:10 PM)
this one brake is more than sufficient

if let go of the brake might able to straighten back the car
but usual human reactions is to press brake, and when that doesnt works, press harder
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luckily i played enough gran turismo 2 in my teens laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(iSean @ May 13 2025, 03:44 PM)


I think I was on some DUKE highway coming back from Kepong.
Was nearing Toll Booth to pay for RFID, most likely Axia hit the mini bumper thought lost control and slammed breaks and dejavu Initial D, and drifted and walled.
Luckily no upcar dropped down.



sekian terima kasih.
70mai 1080p rear camera abit useless. can't see buy car plate.

Pretty sure at 0:29 mark, even I slowed down @ 60km/h very significantly, this bumper design seems abit too dangerous.
I drove a Bezza and it hit my car real hard.

Can't imagine Axia. more lighter than me, hit the curb be like wtf. and slammed breaks coming in.
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jgn tipu, u tak witness, carcam u yang witness.
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ May 13 2025, 04:47 PM)
i've only driven 2 perodua before, both myvi.
one rented in langkawi.
another on is back at my hometown, friend lend me his myvi a couple of times when i'm back and needed car.
the brake really have to step very hard.

both cars, i dont dare to drive pass 60kmh  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
both old cars i'm not sure if they didnt maintain the car well or its expected.
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even my own myvi right now i also changed the brake pad to ceramic
it's still not as grippy as my proton saga but it's sufficient enough for me to slow down the car when it's needed
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 13 2025, 05:02 PM)
even my own myvi right now i also changed the brake pad to ceramic
it's still not as grippy as my proton saga but it's sufficient enough for me to slow down the car when it's needed
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Also. Once I’m back after driving them, when I first apply brake on my city. I will terkecut pikachu coz applied too much brake. 😄😄😄
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QUOTE(iSean @ May 13 2025, 03:44 PM)


I think I was on some DUKE highway coming back from Kepong.
Was nearing Toll Booth to pay for RFID, most likely Axia hit the mini bumper thought lost control and slammed breaks and dejavu Initial D, and drifted and walled.
Luckily no upcar dropped down.



sekian terima kasih.
70mai 1080p rear camera abit useless. can't see buy car plate.

Pretty sure at 0:29 mark, even I slowed down @ 60km/h very significantly, this bumper design seems abit too dangerous.
I drove a Bezza and it hit my car real hard.

Can't imagine Axia. more lighter than me, hit the curb be like wtf. and slammed breaks coming in.
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Wahh- nice background song. Fuji Kaze. thumbup.gif

Looks as if the driver didn't even hit the brakes. But it wouldn't matter. It would have made it worst. Front wheel drive cars are front heavy. Seeing that its a decline into a bend, all the weight would have been in front of the car, he would have let go of the accelerate pedal just before realising he was going a little too fast, at that moment, even more weight is shifted to the front, causing the rear wheels to loose traction ( road was also slightly damped )… hello oversteer. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Buffalo Soldier @ May 13 2025, 04:10 PM)
Betul tu. Memang bangang placement betul2 sebelum atau tengah corner.
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All braking has to be COMPLETED before entering the corner to follow "slow in fast out" pressing the rear tyres down then tarak issue
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 13 2025, 04:04 PM)
......expansion strips and rumble strips on highway corners is a really stupid implementation. Rumble strips should be before the corner to let the drivers slow down BEFORE the corner. Combination of corner lateral force, instability of the rumble strips and the driver either braking or lifting off in the middle of a corner is asking for disaster.
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implementing these strips on corners are indeed dangerous, authorities knowing this were prolly left with no choice knowing how motorists behave
take the Duta toll for example, entrance side, long corner downhill curve stretches on for quite a bit until the gates
those familiar will slow down
otherwise kena macam axia
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QUOTE(karazure @ May 13 2025, 05:01 PM)
jgn tipu, u tak witness, carcam u yang witness.
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i witness from my side mirrors. else how i know accident bruh.
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cheh just wall tak kasi hantam kuat2 driver ter compak keluar and face plant on road.
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QUOTE(andyng38 @ May 13 2025, 04:42 PM)
ooh not one mention of ling long tyres so far!
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they are bad? or good?
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 13 2025, 04:43 PM)
all forced balik office? where renting? thought last place already no more renting?
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still same place just another block, after jackass master tenant raised the rental.
RM 320 now no more beautiful window view.

But my balcony same direction just weird angle to see the sunrise/set now.
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Who ask the Axia didn't use the handbrake to drift ?
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QUOTE(iSean @ May 13 2025, 05:55 PM)
they are bad? or good?
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no idea biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bigmac999 @ May 13 2025, 03:45 PM)
u can actually see the Axia was driving too fast for its own good
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ May 13 2025, 05:34 PM)
All braking has to be COMPLETED before entering the corner to follow "slow in fast out" pressing the rear tyres down then tarak issue
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For the layman yes. But it's not entirely correct. Nor quickest way around the corner.... Nor safest. Yes, most of the braking should be done before you get to the corner, but you should not stop braking, instead you should gradually "trail" off braking to the apex.

Those with advance training will know to trail brake and hold it later into a corner, and the transition from braking to throttle is very quick. In fact those that actually know how to drive would prefer a slight oversteer condition possible from trail braking (easier to recover if you got skills) rather than understeer.

Front tyres do the steering, you need partial and slight braking force to maintain weight transfer at the front wheels for grip for the initial turn in. Not enough weight up front may result in harder to recover understeer.

I have to emphasize gradual and partial, too much too late and you can induce oversteer. It's an advanced technique that takes years of track experience to perfect.

Like I said before. Proper and correct driving technique can often be unintuitive. For example, if your car starts fishtailing... The correct recovery on a fwd car is off the brakes and on the gas. Completely the opposite of what most people will do, with is more braking.

Just my 2c.

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Axia pekkona like sohem is one thing

The retarded placement of bumper is really inexcusable
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QUOTE(Clubtoska @ May 13 2025, 05:30 PM)
Wahh- nice background song. Fuji Kaze.  thumbup.gif

Looks as if the driver didn't even hit the brakes. But it wouldn't matter. It would have made it worst. Front wheel drive cars are front heavy. Seeing that its a decline into a bend, all the weight would have been in front of the car, he would have let go of the accelerate pedal just before realising he was going a little too fast, at that moment, even more weight is shifted to the front, causing the rear wheels to loose traction ( road was also slightly damped )… hello oversteer.  sad.gif
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thank you for noticing Fuji Kaze, realized this artist new song called Overflow quite nice, and realxing. Very emotional.


Ahhh technically when at a curve, the mass is directed at the centre, eventually that's why it skids to the right wall.


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QUOTE(iSean @ May 13 2025, 07:44 PM)
thank you for noticing Fuji Kaze, realized this artist new song called Overflow quite nice, and realxing. Very emotional.
Ahhh technically when at a curve, the mass is directed at the centre, eventually that's why it skids to the right wall.
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Overflow. Will check it out. Thanks!

Centre weight. Ahh, makes more sense. thumbsup.gif
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