Thinking of being a real estate agent, in my 50s
Thinking of being a real estate agent, in my 50s
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May 10 2025, 05:15 PM, updated 7 months ago
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recently I met up with a friend, he is a young graduate who decided to become a real estate agent, he told me that his agency has a lot of retirees. gives me an idea. I've been having a lot of thought about it, as I am in my early 50s and as a salaried worker, I am kind of tired of the politics in my office as well as being looked over for promotion. I am thinking about taking up a commission based job, in case I kena retrenched. My questions are these: 1) Do I need to be part of a real estate agency? 2) Would they hire me in my 50s or when I have retired? 3) What is the requirement to become one? Must take exam? 4) What kind of jobs can I take up? Do I have the freedom to choose my territory or the market area? 5) Is the sky the limit? I can earn = to the number of clients I close ? 6) What is the future of this business? Would it be replaced by AI one day? 7) What about property valuation, what does it take to get this qualification? |
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May 10 2025, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE(Palisades @ May 10 2025, 05:15 PM) recently I met up with a friend, he is a young graduate who decided to become a real estate agent, he told me that his agency has a lot of retirees. This post has been edited by mini orchard: May 10 2025, 06:55 PMgives me an idea. I've been having a lot of thought about it, as I am in my early 50s and as a salaried worker, I am kind of tired of the politics in my office as well as being looked over for promotion. I am thinking about taking up a commission based job, in case I kena retrenched. My questions are these: 1) Do I need to be part of a real estate agency? Yes 2) Would they hire me in my 50s or when I have retired? Yes 3) What is the requirement to become one? Must take exam? Minimum SPM. Negotiator Certification Course 4) What kind of jobs can I take up? Do I have the freedom to choose my territory or the market area? Real Estate Negotiator (REN) selling and rental of properties. Yes 5) Is the sky the limit? I can earn = to the number of clients I close ? Yes 6) What is the future of this business? Would it be replaced by AI one day? Good for hardworking person. No comment 7) What about property valuation, what does it take to get this qualification? Pass the valuation exam, do internship and pass the interview assessment by the Board |
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May 10 2025, 07:52 PM
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80% of agents are just numbers to the agency ya.. Real one only the 20% boleh pakai.. Basically very easy fall into the 80% slot of non performing agents unless u have some competitive edge / advantage..or got money to fight advertisement This post has been edited by Boomwick: May 10 2025, 07:53 PM max_cavalera liked this post
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May 10 2025, 07:55 PM
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Expect first 6mths no close deal Then see if you still can persist or give up pgsiemkia liked this post
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May 10 2025, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(Palisades @ May 10 2025, 05:15 PM) recently I met up with a friend, he is a young graduate who decided to become a real estate agent, he told me that his agency has a lot of retirees. do you have SPM cert? if dont have then go drive grab je, also commisen basedgives me an idea. I've been having a lot of thought about it, as I am in my early 50s and as a salaried worker, I am kind of tired of the politics in my office as well as being looked over for promotion. I am thinking about taking up a commission based job, in case I kena retrenched. My questions are these: 1) Do I need to be part of a real estate agency? 2) Would they hire me in my 50s or when I have retired? 3) What is the requirement to become one? Must take exam? 4) What kind of jobs can I take up? Do I have the freedom to choose my territory or the market area? 5) Is the sky the limit? I can earn = to the number of clients I close ? 6) What is the future of this business? Would it be replaced by AI one day? 7) What about property valuation, what does it take to get this qualification? cempedaklife liked this post
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May 10 2025, 08:27 PM
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Cincai join any real estate agency, the boss will apply the real estate agent documents for you to be a verified agent
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May 10 2025, 09:23 PM
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Funny you asked, cause this article just came out today.
https://www.nst.com.my/amp/property/2025/05...tion-sales-down QUOTE Property mismatch: Construction up, sales down This post has been edited by keybearer: May 10 2025, 09:24 PMThe fall in property transactions in the first quarter of 2025 (1Q25), despite a spike in construction activity and new launches, indicates a mismatch between actual market demand and developers' projections or ongoing project commitments. KUALA LUMPUR: The fall in property transactions in the first quarter of 2025 (1Q25), despite a spike in construction activity and new launches, indicates a mismatch between actual market demand and developers' projections or ongoing project commitments. Property analysts told Business Times that this may stem from projects that were planned during more optimistic market conditions now coming to fruition, while buyers are growing more cautious amid economic uncertainties, stricter lending conditions, and affordability challenges. According to the Valuation and Property Services Department, the country's property market slipped in Q1, with transaction volume down 6.2 per cent and value down 8.9 per cent. Its director general Abdul Razak Yusak said the total transactions amounted to 97,772, valued at RM51.42 billion, compared to 104,194 transactions worth RM56.47 billion in the same period of 2024. Abdul Razak said although the property transactions began on a slower note, the pace of construction activity and increase of residential new launches were supported to balance the property market growth and sustain its positive momentum in 2025. Universiti Teknologi Malaysia associate professor in property economics Dr Muhammad Najib Razali said Malaysia has long faced an imbalance between supply and demand, especially in the affordable housing segment. "To address this, developers must strengthen their market analysis and ensure new launches are aligned with real, localised demand, not just general market trends, to avoid oversupply in the wrong segments," he said. Juwai IQI co-founder and group chief executive officer Kashif Ansari said while it may appear contradictory to see a drop in transactions alongside a surge in construction, it is actually a reflection of two separate timelines. "Much of the construction we are seeing now was planned and financed months or years ago. Developers are betting on the future, not just the moment. "The strong results in 2024 gave them even more confidence. The value of construction work done surged 20 per cent last year to RM158.8 billion, with residential building growing nearly 40 per cent," he added. Kashif said while fewer people and companies bought any kind of real estate in the first quarter, that hides the fact that some segments actually improved. "Residential made up 61 per cent of all transactions, demonstrating sustained demand. And look at terraced homes, where prices climbed by 2.2 per cent in a single quarter," he added. Temporary Slowdown Najib said although the first quarter reflects a slowdown, it is too early to conclude that this signals a long-term trend. He said Malaysia's property market has historically been cyclical, and seasonal or short-term factors (such as timing of launches, interest rate expectations, or political developments) can influence quarterly numbers. "However, if economic uncertainties persist or consumer confidence weakens, we could see the softer trend continue through the mid-year, though pockets of resilience might remain, especially in affordable housing or niche market segments," he added. Meanwhile, Kashif said the first-quarter slowdown appears to be a temporary pause, pointing out that the beginning of the year is typically quieter and that global uncertainties likely caused some buyers to hold back. "But Malaysia has solid fundamentals, like stable interest rates and steady job growth, and I expect momentum to return in the second quarter and third quarter. "The number of transactions will increase because buyers who held back out of worries about the global situation will go ahead with their purchases. "One thing that gives me confidence is the rise in new launches. Developers do not commit unless they believe demand will follow," he added. Kashif said sales activity typically rebounds within a quarter or two, and if sentiment remains stable, many of the delays seen in the first quarter could translate into transactions in the second half of the year. |
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May 10 2025, 10:28 PM
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Got one 60 years old rookie joined early January and now already leader, meaning commission already exceed RM 200k. Meanwhile, another 52 years old still struggling. My point is age is just a number. All depends if you got social skills or not. Are you comfortable approaching stranger to sell a property? Can you face rejections? Will you be ok to pick up a number and converse with a stranger to get appointment? pgsiemkia liked this post
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May 10 2025, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ May 10 2025, 10:28 PM) Got one 60 years old rookie joined early January and now already leader, meaning commission already exceed RM 200k. Meanwhile, another 52 years old still struggling. I do agree with you. My point is age is just a number. All depends if you got social skills or not. Are you comfortable approaching stranger to sell a property? Can you face rejections? Will you be ok to pick up a number and converse with a stranger to get appointment? This is my observation and not limited to real estate. You do need the network of clientele direct or indirect and right circle. Who and how you were in your yesteryears in the eyes of others prior joining specially >50, does make a difference. Don't under estimate a face for a face, pay-back factor here. Age is not merely a number. This post has been edited by jojolicia: May 10 2025, 11:44 PM |
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May 10 2025, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(Palisades @ May 10 2025, 06:15 PM) recently I met up with a friend, he is a young graduate who decided to become a real estate agent, he told me that his agency has a lot of retirees. I was in corporate last year, working 300% but in the end company will only give you 100% worth of salary. Best is company trip or company give 2 months salary as bonus.gives me an idea. I've been having a lot of thought about it, as I am in my early 50s and as a salaried worker, I am kind of tired of the politics in my office as well as being looked over for promotion. I am thinking about taking up a commission based job, in case I kena retrenched. My questions are these: 1) Do I need to be part of a real estate agency? 2) Would they hire me in my 50s or when I have retired? 3) What is the requirement to become one? Must take exam? 4) What kind of jobs can I take up? Do I have the freedom to choose my territory or the market area? 5) Is the sky the limit? I can earn = to the number of clients I close ? 6) What is the future of this business? Would it be replaced by AI one day? 7) What about property valuation, what does it take to get this qualification? So I decided jumped out from my work as senior executive. And step back into property. (I got involved last time over 13 years ago). Now I'm making 2-3x salary compared to last year. But of coz, I able to do so coz I have property agent experience in the past, I know sales tactic and knowing technology that could help me to achieve it. Unsure if you could follow the path along. Now let me answer your question. 1. Yes, transaction involving real estate no matter sales or rent, you are 100% required to be in an agency. U can't simply make one SSM company syarikat Palisades and involving real estate. 2. Yes they still recruit you because it's a commission base job. First you need to pay a small amount to join. Then they also don't worry about you performing badly coz they got nothing to lose. 3. Minimum SPM, then need to attend 2 days class in MIEA and take an exam after the class. Afterwards they will proceed to issue certificate and then you will hand it over to your agency and apply for the REN tag. Usually you already can start to work as an agent because it looks really long for the board to issue the tag( I completed the test in end of February, until now still haven't completed yet. But I edi start making sales edi) 4. You are free to take whatever you wanna do. But depends on your agency specialized into and what your leader teach. For me, I join this agency coz higher commission. But I don't learn anything from my leader. My leader basically just diam diam taking certain percentage from my sales. I did all myself from finding lead, finding clients, closing deals and solving more difficult matters coz I already know how everything works in property. Beginner better rely on your leader. But a tips here, you need to find a leader that willing to teach you things. 5. There is no sky limit in property. They are millionaires achievers. Yes there is. Right now I am still working lazy and haven't go all out. Rather don't wanna disclose my income but it's definitely x2-3 from my past executive job. 6. Don't see any potential this job can be replaced by AI. Viewing house is definitely required physical visit and agent are specialise arrangement of it. At the end, there will be paperwork. Someone needs to be there as a witness of the deal. 7. Once you work on it, you will slowly get your experience. **A lot people inside kopitiam don't like agent coz they see us as nuisance. But don't see agent as that low. I have my own integrity and I always provide good service to my clients. They always come back to me. My keypoint is that, to be an agent, you always has to be proactive and be responsible. Lastly, hardworking and smart is surely required. sykz, V1Property, and 2 others liked this post
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May 11 2025, 07:26 AM
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I am a leader myself in the industry and actively recruiting just like agents have to be actively prospecting.. Most have answered your question so I'll just add a few more on those First and foremost to be successful in this business you have to be - Hardworking - Willing to learn - Be humble - Proactive - Empathize There are 4 major roads and a few minor ones when it comes to Real Estate 1st is New launch projects - Under this you have Exclusive meaning only your agency is able to sell this project and if other agents from other agency would like to sell they would need to work with you and share their comission - adhoc agencies, appointed agencies are only able to sell the particular project 2nd is Subsale - You call master listings to get owners to trust that you'll be able to sell for them 3rd is Rental - You call master listings to get owners to trust that you'll be able to rent for them 4th is Lelong - You advertise on platforms and gain followers on what lelong property is out there by the banks So once you've decided which path to take above, the next is to decide what kind of properties you would like to focus on High Rise Luxury high rise RumaWIP Landed - link house - semi d - bungalow Gated and guarded landed Land - Agri - Commercial - Residential - Industrial - residential Industrial such as factories Offices Shoplots After that would be the location on which you would like to focus, don't focus on 10 areas because you'll definitely be burned out and you won't be able to compete with agents that are focus in that area, for example you only have 1 listing while the other agents have 50 listings in the condo, so most likely the clients would pick the other agents due to plenty of options for their decision making So what it takes to be successful in this business is that you proactively and make it a habit to prospect. For project and subsales/rental If you can - Make 200 calls a day to either get clients or get leads - Spend money on advertising either on major platforms like iprop and propertyguru or FB / IG / tiktok / XHS ads - Willing to learn from your leader or on your own by reading books on negotiations and sales - Be consistent in making those 200 calls a day - Sky is definitely the limit - Be a problem solver So some of the issues that might arise would be client's unable to obtain a loan to purchase a house, here is one of them as I mainly sell luxury condos, the client would need to fork out RM1mil++ to put in the banks FD to obtain the loan ![]() All 4 major roads in real estate can definitely make money, the easiest if you ask me would be Rental, as for all my new agents, this is what i would suggest them to get sustainable income while doing projects as well.. For rental it is alot easier as clients come, they see they like they rent.. Commitment is not up to 35 years hence decision making is a lot more straightforward Good luck in your future endeavors! sykz, V1Property, and 1 other liked this post
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May 11 2025, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ May 11 2025, 07:26 AM) I am a leader myself in the industry and actively recruiting just like agents have to be actively prospecting.. Ok u r quite detail alreadyMost have answered your question so I'll just add a few more on those First and foremost to be successful in this business you have to be - Hardworking - Willing to learn - Be humble - Proactive - Empathize There are 4 major roads and a few minor ones when it comes to Real Estate 1st is New launch projects - Under this you have Exclusive meaning only your agency is able to sell this project and if other agents from other agency would like to sell they would need to work with you and share their comission - adhoc agencies, appointed agencies are only able to sell the particular project 2nd is Subsale - You call master listings to get owners to trust that you'll be able to sell for them 3rd is Rental - You call master listings to get owners to trust that you'll be able to rent for them 4th is Lelong - You advertise on platforms and gain followers on what lelong property is out there by the banks So once you've decided which path to take above, the next is to decide what kind of properties you would like to focus on High Rise Luxury high rise RumaWIP Landed - link house - semi d - bungalow Gated and guarded landed Land - Agri - Commercial - Residential - Industrial - residential Industrial such as factories Offices Shoplots After that would be the location on which you would like to focus, don't focus on 10 areas because you'll definitely be burned out and you won't be able to compete with agents that are focus in that area, for example you only have 1 listing while the other agents have 50 listings in the condo, so most likely the clients would pick the other agents due to plenty of options for their decision making So what it takes to be successful in this business is that you proactively and make it a habit to prospect. For project and subsales/rental If you can - Make 200 calls a day to either get clients or get leads - Spend money on advertising either on major platforms like iprop and propertyguru or FB / IG / tiktok / XHS ads - Willing to learn from your leader or on your own by reading books on negotiations and sales - Be consistent in making those 200 calls a day - Sky is definitely the limit - Be a problem solver So some of the issues that might arise would be client's unable to obtain a loan to purchase a house, here is one of them as I mainly sell luxury condos, the client would need to fork out RM1mil++ to put in the banks FD to obtain the loan ![]() All 4 major roads in real estate can definitely make money, the easiest if you ask me would be Rental, as for all my new agents, this is what i would suggest them to get sustainable income while doing projects as well.. For rental it is alot easier as clients come, they see they like they rent.. Commitment is not up to 35 years hence decision making is a lot more straightforward Good luck in your future endeavors! For me, i will tell them upfront how much they got to spend.. If new launch, got 10k to play advertisement? And need to expect 10k all burn and no return of investment For subsale, got 4k to subscribe iproperty for 1 yr. Best effect is iprop + propguru..tat will be 7k a year.. If this 2 also tak ada, or not willing to fork out, then automatic can see this fella become the 80% non performing. For calling 200 leads a day If call owner, no platform advertise also die If call customer for project, no good listing to call also die.. |
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May 11 2025, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(Boomwick @ May 11 2025, 11:36 AM) Ok u r quite detail already Haha yeah chicken and egg, For me, i will tell them upfront how much they got to spend.. If new launch, got 10k to play advertisement? And need to expect 10k all burn and no return of investment For subsale, got 4k to subscribe iproperty for 1 yr. Best effect is iprop + propguru..tat will be 7k a year.. If this 2 also tak ada, or not willing to fork out, then automatic can see this fella become the 80% non performing. For calling 200 leads a day If call owner, no platform advertise also die If call customer for project, no good listing to call also die.. Personally I would suggest them to improve their communication skills, human soft skills, tonality and so forth.. I have personally called master listings lists and closed a few from there.. If there is value that you can add to clients then most likely they will purchase from you.. Ideally i wouldn't want my agents to spend so much because I know they will most likely be doom for failure and best to start with cold calls first and gain experience from there |
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May 13 2025, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ May 13 2025, 12:35 PM) Haha yeah chicken and egg, Many cold call kena reject 20 times then sien and give up already one laPersonally I would suggest them to improve their communication skills, human soft skills, tonality and so forth.. I have personally called master listings lists and closed a few from there.. If there is value that you can add to clients then most likely they will purchase from you.. Ideally i wouldn't want my agents to spend so much because I know they will most likely be doom for failure and best to start with cold calls first and gain experience from there |
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