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post May 8 2025, 09:25 PM, updated 8 months ago

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Expected Price of P2 EMO
leasing battery: <RM80k
with battery: <RM90k

One of the information that was shared was the fact that the EV is reaching 90-percent into development which means, the automaker will be able to launch the EV by the end of this year as stated.

Moreover, to make sure that the EMO is priced below RM100,000, Perodua will be introducing a Battery-as-a-Service (BaaS) model—the first in Malaysia. Instead of owning the battery, buyers can lease it for a minimal monthly fee. The ‘rental’ fee is the minimum, and based on surveys by Perodua, many are in favour of this method, according to Zainal.

This strategy is also the national automaker’s way of addressing the issue of electric vehicle (EV) resale value. At present, EVs tend to depreciate more rapidly than internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles, primarily due to the high cost of battery replacement.

To counter this, customers have the option to purchase the EMO’s battery outright, which includes a standard eight-year warranty. Additionally, Zainal noted that if necessary, the EMO’s battery can be swapped in just 30 minutes.

Pre-production of the EMO will begin in September at Perodua’s new BEV facility in Sg Choh, where the company will produce around 500 units per month initially. The EV will also be the first Perodua model to use hot press-formed steel, with Zainal also confirming the platform is Perodua’s own IP, with no involvement from Daihatsu.

https://www.lowyat.net/2025/351067/perodua-...pt-at-mas-2025/



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post May 8 2025, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(smallbug @ May 8 2025, 09:28 PM)
now you disconnect positive, negative, then reconnect both from the new battery....   I think also take less than 30 minutes  biggrin.gif
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can existing BYD or Proton Geely replace theirs in 30 mins? or they are built-in and cannot be replaced and must scrape the whole car together? hence, resale value down the drain?

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post May 8 2025, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ May 8 2025, 09:46 PM)
Hallo???!!!!!!! What in the blue hell are you promoting battery swapping in 30 minutes for? NIO is pioneer in this!!! Your 30 minutes means nothing if you are selling this concept without swap stations. Like NIO has it in CN for 5 MINUTES!!!

Fast charging is already breaching 15 minutes today and you are selling 30 minute battery swaps?? What kind of stupid is this?
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you won't get 15min full charge in Malaysia charging stations. that's for sure. in China maybe since they have 1MW charging stations and cold weather.
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post May 8 2025, 09:53 PM

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post May 8 2025, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ May 8 2025, 10:07 PM)
I want them to succeed, for sure
But would I buy the first one? No

Idk man they seem so weirdly fixated on the battery leasing and resale value aspect.

Like they’re trying to corner a specific market of ppl but those ppl don’t care at all, but the ppl that actually may be interested in a sub 100k EV they got no points to make them excited.

Who are they actually trying to sell this to is my question
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based on surveys by Perodua, many are in favour of this method

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post May 8 2025, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 8 2025, 10:18 PM)
Let's see what is the options available for battery leasing
With LFP long life cycle, what the heck they need to lease the battery? just attached together and sell it off lah.

The main problem is the price point might cost around RM90k if they include the battery in it.
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according to the YouTube i posted.

leasing battery: <RM80k
with battery: <RM90k
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post May 8 2025, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ May 8 2025, 10:31 PM)
Then at that point I think the battery leasing is just a decoy and marketing thing and in the end more ppl gonna buy it outright with battery lol
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don't forget EV battery price is decreasing.

maybe in TnC can allow user to switch to new gen battery with higher capacity after a year?

if got such TnC drool.gif

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post May 8 2025, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ May 8 2025, 10:38 PM)
WIN 🏆
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but you won't get such charging in Malaysia.
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post May 8 2025, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(danielmckey @ May 8 2025, 10:48 PM)
They say Car Price 80K + Battery 80K = 160K very cheap.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ May 8 2025, 11:03 PM)
The only reason why they market battery swapping is because you have to buy the battery separately. And that is even on lease and not ownership! It is for their cause (to sell cars) not for you the consumer (ease of ownership), why do you support this?  doh.gif
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my perspective is

EV battery price are reducing so if buy outright you already lost. ie you fixed yourself to the same battery.

one may have the opportunity to switch to new gen battery when leasing for the same size with longer range in future.

and EV battery is degrading overtime, not owning it is good thing. the 2nd hand owner can lease new battery when one bought the car.

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post May 8 2025, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ May 8 2025, 11:41 PM)
Thats crazy that they would want to buy you a new gen battery lest say a 700km capable one for the current 500km one. And then you would have to top up. Perpetually financing the car that you would probably want to get rid off, lets say 5-7 years? Where is the balance of car age due to wear and tear? You could argue the motor could last 1 million km. But what about the interior and electronics?
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up to you unker. but i am optimistic about this Perodua model. Nio is also doing it with their Firefly.

another thing is i wonder how the ev car insurance is affected since currently ev car insurance is expensive mainly because of the battery. when subscribing to ev battery, the battery is not owned by the car user. so not sure will the insurance be cheaper since it does not need to cover the battery.

now Perodua need to give more details on the battery leasing plan.

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post May 9 2025, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 9 2025, 01:13 AM)
Impossible that battery cost only RM10k based on the current battery price, if 50kwh it should be additional RM20k
So u telling me when the battery price reduce, perodua also will reduce battery leasing price per month/year? Then what happen to the initial cost of battery which Perodua fork out? Do business rugi kah? laugh.gif

LFP battery has proven it has high life cycle, so battery leasing is more like a money making machine out from future perodua emo owner like u.
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i doubt they will make you pay full price of the battery over say 9 years. then what's the difference between the 2 plan?

well that's what the Perodua CEO told the media about the price difference.

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post May 9 2025, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 9 2025, 11:45 AM)
mana i tau, go ask Perodua CEO.

Mind u the charging rate for this emo is damn slow, 30-80% DC charging take 30 mins, the charging rate for DC is merely 50kw max based on 50kwh battery.
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oh that's a turn off. 50kW DC charging rate.

well, eMas7 then. hahaha
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post May 9 2025, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(RGRaj @ May 9 2025, 06:24 PM)
The vehicle will be very heavy.
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should be a good thing

QUOTE(alexander3133 @ May 9 2025, 06:37 PM)
So if one day those car owners stop paying battery subscription fee, the car will be disabled remotely?
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ May 9 2025, 06:53 PM)
P2 cepat mengaku. You pakai CATL skateboard chassis, battery dan Battery Management System dia sekali kan???
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P2 claim own IP. jangan fitnah anneh.

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post May 9 2025, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(ledtechn @ May 9 2025, 10:39 PM)
Usually dalam /k all kutuk2 perodua, but real world perodua figure says otherwise.
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hence P2 surveys said opposite of what /k said

 

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