jb not shitty because near sg
real shitty is penang. jam for nothing. nothing to do also.

Yes
Penang is overrated. Please don't come. JB, KL better.

thats why i didnt hesitate to move back to JB from KL last time.

Sure, in KL, you got more malls and places to run to, but it become muak after a few times.

What matter where you stay or visit is the people and culture.

KL valley people is most sophisticated compared to the rest. So there is a lot of happening there e.g. events.

Next on this level is actually Penang ppl. Then only Greater Johor area ppl. But even Greater Johor ppl now got so many ppl outstation too.

If you take out food and malls, then really nothing much to visit.

indeed malaysia city really = 3rd world country.
can see SG even planting bonsai on the public road.. this is how rich they are.

But hor one problem, why are we charging SG so cheap for their water? not like they cant afford to pay also.

Every time I cross over from Singapore to JB I feel JB is very run down. The JB sentral area is very overcrowded and chaotic. Traffic is a mess. Many other parts of JB are run down, many malls are dying or died, the buildings around are frequently run down, traffic is always bad at the city center. The newer places are quite nice but then the older parts are left to rot and not maintained. For such a large city, the public transport system is terrible, the bus are frequently in bad shape, no proper public bus terminal, just overall horrible.

I compare with other cities in Malaysia, KL, Penang, Ipoh, Melaka. I think they are in better shape than JB. JB just gives me that dark, gloomy, broken down, shady kind of feel. It seems like I'm stepping into Gotham city sometimes.

Is JB the worst city in Malaysia or did I miss out on another city in Malaysia which is worse?

Every time I cross over from Singapore to JB I feel JB is very run down. The JB sentral area is very overcrowded and chaotic. Traffic is a mess. Many other parts of JB are run down, many malls are dying or died, the buildings around are frequently run down, traffic is always bad at the city center. The newer places are quite nice but then the older parts are left to rot and not maintained. For such a large city, the public transport system is terrible, the bus are frequently in bad shape, no proper public bus terminal, just overall horrible.

I compare with other cities in Malaysia, KL, Penang, Ipoh, Melaka. I think they are in better shape than JB. JB just gives me that dark, gloomy, broken down, shady kind of feel. It seems like I'm stepping into Gotham city sometimes.

Is JB the worst city in Malaysia or did I miss out on another city in Malaysia which is worse?

Do you know how much Johor benefit from this arrangement?

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...deputy-minister

You want to offend Johor?

JB and Johor as a whole, I think got one thing that win all other City, there are less religious extremist there, if got any, the law deals with them pretty fast. Then all those religious pensyarah if they want to give ceramah in any religous places, their topic and content must be vet thru by the respective religious council. If batu api,,,will be dealt with.

As for infrastructure, I think JB and Johor has been neglect by the Mahathir administration and then other Umno lead administration, only in recent 10 years where we start to see proper planning from competent people and lead by our Sultan.

Being next to SG is good enuf for JB to be better than others. With RTS & JSSEZ it can only get better n better. The coming decades will belong to JB n it will attract people from other states. Many hardworking people became millionaire by just working in SG. It is not easy to redevelop the old city centre but Iskandar Puteri is turning out well.