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Avangelice
post May 7 2025, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 7 2025, 04:21 PM)
Doctors' fee are regulated and at a max of RM35, let's say an average clinic with average 30 patients a day that opens for 6 days week

RM35 x 30 x24 days = RM25,200 per month gross income if all his patients bought the meds elsewhere

Rental / month = RM6,000
Electricity/water = RM1,500
2 nurses/helper = RM8,000
Equipment etc = RM500 depreciation
others e.g. database management/stationery etc = RM500
Total est. fixed expenses = RM16,500

So, est income = RM8,700

If incl meds maybe avg RM35 per pax with profit of 100% @ 17.50, meds gross income will be RM12,600/m

Total income = 21,300

Still less then many /k here, if take away meds, yes, GP doctors is just M40 or top end of B40
Reposting what on /k member say.

To the idiots who say doctor profiteering I tell you what you punde's send your children to med school then ask them go work GP clinic and be transparent with pricing.

You punde fellas pay 1M education fee for your stupid kid do medic then see u talk big or not.

Most doctors are not JPA scholars who education paid for by gomen own FAMA pocket. Even stupid apek with business admin degree can earn 10k a month by 28 or stupid crony child work with glc with shit degree also can make more then doctor.
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Your first paragraph shows you never seen their patient load before.

I suggest go have coffee next to a clinic that's well known in ur neighborhood for an hour. See the number of patients going in and out.

Also electricity 1.5k? Lol mine alone is 300 per month.
Nurses 4k? Laugh die me

Confirm taking all this out of ur butt
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post May 7 2025, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 7 2025, 04:26 PM)
could we accept that the real problem were that we had so many GP clinics out there?

in my house area, within 1km radius, i think we had like 10 clinics.im not living in high density area. doctors should not thinking about having their own clinic, just makan gaji work under other people la.
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THIS, and dental clinic as well. in taipan usj alone I think got more than 15 dental clinics wei

how lah they gonna survive?
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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ May 7 2025, 04:32 PM)
None of what you have listed is even remotely proper.
This argument make sense if we don't have hospital private and government.
Have you ever walk to the nearest GP and request for a simple suture removal?
I will rather wait for 5 hour on klinik kesihatan over going to any GP with sloppy skillset.
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so u go private dentist or government?
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post May 7 2025, 05:20 PM

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Dont worry, very soon GP will be out of jobs because chatgpt can do exactly what normal GP's can do. We just present our symptoms and chatgpt will give diagnosis and a list of ubat that we can go get directly from pharmacies.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 7 2025, 05:19 PM)
THIS, and dental clinic as well. in taipan usj alone I think got more than 15 dental clinics wei

how lah they gonna survive?
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Don't blame individual doctors or dentist. Blame those franchise ones. Pharmacy, dental, doctor, physio, chiro all kena. Fucking unregulated already
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post May 7 2025, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(keybearer @ May 7 2025, 05:16 PM)
Let me repost from other tered.
Consultation fees are regulated from another act, Private Healthcare Facilities and Services Act (PHFSA) 1998.
Latest legal implementation is for transparency of drug pricing under Price Control and Anti-Profiteering (Act 723), also AFAIK NOT COVERING PRICE CONTROL OF MEDS.

So enlighten us, the protest is on price transparency or consultation fees? You can make money still off your drugs because it is not price control enforcement, only DISPLAY.

https://codeblue.galencentre.org/2025/05/do...-price-display/
Somebody's leading doctors by the nose to the protest if you think we're attacking consultation fees.
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Yes display but again because of the low consultation fee if they were to display kpdnkk will fak them for overcharging. How you expect to recoup ?

Simple you to Chinaman workshop to repair car. If you just give part repair the fella charge labour fee but if u ask him to buy part and repair Chinaman charge you 50pc to double. Say timing belt RM300 chinaman charge RM500. So that's a 66 pc increase because he don't want to show his labour expensive right? Like that got workshop put their spare part price on display ke? Pakai la otak sikit.

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post May 7 2025, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 7 2025, 05:18 PM)
Your first paragraph shows you never seen their patient load before.

I suggest go have coffee next to a clinic that's well known in ur neighborhood for an hour. See the number of patients going in and out.

Also electricity 1.5k? Lol mine alone is 300 per month.
Nurses 4k? Laugh die me

Confirm taking all this out of ur butt
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Later sure TS delete your post
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post May 7 2025, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 7 2025, 05:21 PM)
Don't blame individual doctors or dentist. Blame those franchise ones. Pharmacy, dental, doctor, physio, chiro all kena. Fucking unregulated already
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Yes those franchise bastards damn sohai.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 7 2025, 05:18 PM)
Your first paragraph shows you never seen their patient load before.

I suggest go have coffee next to a clinic that's well known in ur neighborhood for an hour. See the number of patients going in and out.

Also electricity 1.5k? Lol mine alone is 300 per month.
Nurses 4k? Laugh die me

Confirm taking all this out of ur butt
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most clinic i observe only morning many ppl. average really 20-30 per day only.

How ur clinic rm300 per month?!?! lol . no aircon?

Nurses 8k cos one of them is wife ma. Salary 7k for her. the remaining 2k split between cleaner and receptionist.
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QUOTE(cakoilembutgebu @ May 7 2025, 05:20 PM)
Dont worry, very soon GP will be out of jobs because chatgpt can do exactly what normal GP's can do. We just present our symptoms and chatgpt will give diagnosis and a list of ubat that we can go get directly from pharmacies.
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Yes chatgpt can shove up your anus to fissures.
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post May 7 2025, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ May 7 2025, 05:19 PM)
so u go private dentist or government?
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government for dentist visit,
private for scaling.


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QUOTE(Silfer @ May 7 2025, 04:52 PM)
nope. i blame KKM for rm1 fee. just up the fee to minimum rm5 or max rm10 could easily rectify some immediate problem. pay better, hire more doctor for rotation so they dont burn out, build more hospital / upgrade more.
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it is a well known myth that all charges go to KKM account. last time sekolah u sleep kah bro? all money goes to Federal Treasury, same thing also like u pay your roadtax all straight goes to Treasury, not JPJ

u increase rm100 per visit also no use if during Budget , our dear PM didnt channel proper budget to KKM
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post May 7 2025, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ May 7 2025, 05:23 PM)
most clinic i observe only morning many ppl. average really 20-30 per day only.

How ur clinic rm300 per month?!?! lol . no aircon?

Nurses 8k cos one of them is wife ma. Salary 7k for her. the remaining 2k split between cleaner and receptionist.
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One cassette, two 1hp running Monday to Saturday. Oh BTW this is sesco pricing. Donno u guys punya tnb pricing.

My dad's gp patient load Gila one. Morning till night full. Husband and wife. Got so much income he opened up 1st floor. Got ecg machine. Not enough he go buy xray machine. Still not enough. He open up a physio center. All in two shop lots. Ground floor and 1st floor.

Car they both drive Mercedes.
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post May 7 2025, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 7 2025, 05:27 PM)
One cassette, two 1hp running Monday to Saturday. Oh BTW this is sesco pricing. Donno u guys punya tnb pricing.

My dad's gp patient load Gila one. Morning till night full. Husband and wife. Got so much income he opened up 1st floor. Got ecg machine. Not enough he go buy xray machine. Still not enough. He open up a physio center. All in two shop lots. Ground floor and 1st floor.

Car they both drive Mercedes.
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There are successful GP but if some buttfak area where rent and wage high but load low how la dei?
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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 7 2025, 05:29 PM)
There are successful GP but if some buttfak area  where rent and wage high  but load low how la dei?
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sulk it . close shop . go do grab
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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ May 7 2025, 05:24 PM)
government for dentist visit,
private for scaling.
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https://www.moh.gov.my/index.php/pages/view/171
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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 7 2025, 05:29 PM)
There are successful GP but if some buttfak area  where rent and wage high  but load low how la dei?
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There's a clinic near me. That one prime example of low load & high rental. She didn't do well because IMHO malas & poor bed side manner.

At the end, she turn her gp clinic to one that offers esthetic services.
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post May 7 2025, 05:32 PM

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ppl want transparency, ts argue about how many years it would take for a doctor to afford his first ferrari pulak.

just disclose, untung banyak then untung banyak lah, takut apa?willing seller willing buyer. KKM seringgit ayam still pigi specialist hospital.

untung banyak why takut ppl know? lari lhdn? mogok lagi, now whole world know GP here overcharge.. kek
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post May 7 2025, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 7 2025, 05:31 PM)
There's a clinic near me. That one prime example of low load & high rental. She didn't do well because IMHO malas & poor bed side manner.

At the end, she turn her gp clinic to one that offers esthetic services.
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Aesthetic way more money making then actual doctors.


Aesthetic just put some botox,laser kasi tetek besar make more money then GP.
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kalau tak how to afford mercili park in front of klinik line merah sewa bulanan parking majlis bandaraya?

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