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post May 8 2025, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(knwong @ May 8 2025, 08:07 AM)
There’s a lot of Carwow videos in YT where they run EV test drives until the cars died
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Thanks buddy will check them out. So far scanned videos from China and Australia only. Hopefully Carwow will reveal something I couldn't find.
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post May 8 2025, 11:07 AM

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Not bad considering higher kababoom rate for China EV.

In general EV is garbage.
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post May 8 2025, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 8 2025, 11:07 AM)
Not bad considering higher kababoom rate for China EV.

In general EV is garbage.
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post May 9 2025, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ May 8 2025, 08:07 AM)
There’s a lot of Carwow videos in YT where they run EV test drives until the cars died
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I have been watching CARWOW videos and those tests that are done until the cars died is because the High Voltage battery had been drained to 0% which explains these cars gliding. However I have not seen any CARWOW videos showing that where the 12V battery died while the cars are being driven. Since these vehicles either belongs to the distributor or manufacturer, I doubt they would allow a degrading 12V battery to be used in their cars especially meant to be for promotional videos. It's just stupid business strategy if the 12V battery suddenly died during filming showing the accident that took place & what not.

So tired following those videos, I wrote to Matt asking if he had actually done a video driving a degrading 12V battery until it died while being driven, so that we all could see what happens. Hopefully he replies.

Regarding the 12V battery having no power, I remember this video from China which had snippet from another video which had been removed and the creator is now facing legal action for that video. I am not sure if I understood the interpretation accurately, but it was said that the creator was showing a crash test he organized in which the 12V battery became disconnected, nothing worked thereafter. Since there was completely no power coming from the 12V battery, nothing else could work. The doors wouldn't open etc. Since the creator is now facing legal action for that video, I think it shows the gravity of the issue on hand. So it makes perfect sense about video driver and occupants burning to their deaths in an accident, since because of the power failure of the 12V system which the vehicle operates on, they are simply unable to escape or witnesses being unable to help etc. ICE don't need electrical power to open a mechanical door. LOL

12V battery fails means everything is OUT. Imagine that what happened to the guy and his family on the highway who mentioned Power System Failure before everything turned blank. Just think about this already sending shivers up my spine. Now imagine us driving at night on the highway that is not lighted up and suddenly the 12V battery goes flat. I am pretty sure the driver behind is going to wonder where did the EV in front of me disappeared to before crashing into the EV.

Our friend is very lucky that his EV decided stop abruptly during the day. That way others could see the stranded vehicle and take evasive maneuvers. If silap waktu, terus masuk alam lain.

So siapa yang pakai EV, is it safe to use the 12V lead acid battery OR should one use the higher priced deep cycle battery ? Economy sekarang teruk, I pilih je yang murah. Minta maaf ya, anyone who asks me to install an underspec battery into their over spec vehicle, memang aku tak buat. Cari lah penjual lain.

This screenshot was taken from CARWOW videos, the 12V battery still had sufficient juice to show one how to open the car door.

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Kalau dah tak de juice, all the best je la. I remember the USA Firemen warning EV owner to learn quickly how to open their Tesla mechanically before everything goes blank. Imagine the situation when smoke gets in your eyes, korang nak cari phone on how to unlock the door ?

Finally this screenshot from CARWOW videos, now I understand why many are suing EV manufacturers for not disclosing the truth about the EV range. No worries la, in Malaysia the rakyat won't sue EV manufacturer want la. It will be the same with the odometer too want la. No issues.

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In my opinion the final nail to the coffin would be

High Voltage battery 0%
12V Deep Cycle battery 0%

Nak lagi cepat ke alam lain

High Voltage battery 0%
12V standard lead acid battery 0%

There is no doubt in my mind that we will witness more and more EV stopping abruptly on highway, as the majority for whatever reasons known to them believes that using the battery until it's dead is the correct way. Whether that translates to higher number of accidents rear ending EV depends to be seen.

This is the last I promise, how many here believes that CARWOW videos is doing driving until the High Voltage battery is completely dead is the correct thing to do ?

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 9 2025, 04:38 PM)
I have been watching CARWOW videos and those tests that are done until the cars died is because the High Voltage battery had been drained to 0% which explains these cars gliding. However I have not seen any CARWOW videos showing that where the 12V battery died while the cars are being driven. Since these vehicles either belongs to the distributor or manufacturer, I doubt they would allow a degrading 12V battery to be used in their cars especially meant to be for promotional videos. It's just stupid business strategy if the 12V battery suddenly died during filming showing the accident that took place & what not.

So tired following those videos, I wrote to Matt asking if he had actually done a video driving a degrading 12V battery until it died while being driven, so that we all could see what happens. Hopefully he replies.

I admire your persistence in this matter. How did you get hold of Matt Watson contact?

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QUOTE(knwong @ May 9 2025, 09:03 PM)
I admire your persistence in this matter. How did you get hold of Matt Watson contact?
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I posted a message on his latest videos, he or his assistants will look at it right ?

If there is no reply, I will just search for CARWOW website and something will appear, I hope.

If that fails too, I have contact in the UK who I think will be able to help out..

This is literally putting Matt in a very tight spot with regard to testing the 12V battery until its dead and putting that on the record. If his business will be compromised because of doing such a video, definately he will not agree, let alone reply. Unless he is something like that of the Chinese guy.

What I cannot figure out is how on earth the Chinese guy was able to organized a crash test ? Must be fuckin rich guy just to slam 2 vehicles together to prove the dangers of the 12V battery OR at least that was what he was trying to show by standing in front of the crashed EV. I must mention that I wasn't able to see the crash test itself on video.

If everything fails with Matt, I think I will propose this idea to someone and see what happens.

What is important is that owners of Chinese EV better know what to do exactly when there is completely no power at all while being stuck in the vehicle. Can you imagine during and emergency like thermal runaway gasses is pouring out and one is fumbling on the phone trying to find how to get out. Ridiculous. Fuckin death trap I say. Those who want to use EV, can, make they are on top with proper and strict maintenance and warranties and know the escape route.

I like driving on the highway at night as it is cooler but if more and more EV becomes stranded on the highway without any hazard lights at all, it becomes extremely dangerous not only to myself but to all road users as well. I remember this video of a highway accident involving a navy officer's vehicle and a cow. The officer couldn't even react to the cow in the dark and slammed right into it as if it wasn't there. It's going to be same with a stranded EV as well. I think I better stop driving at night already. No choice.
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post May 11 2025, 04:27 AM

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QUOTE(knwong @ May 9 2025, 09:03 PM)
I admire your persistence in this matter. How did you get hold of Matt Watson contact?
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I suspect it's going to be a futile effort in trying to convince Matt to do rundown a normal 12V lead acid battery until it dies in an EV, all the more if it's illegal.

Since the 12V lead-acid battery is not the correct battery application to be used in an EV, I am going to direct my question to the British regulators instead, surely they will have to reply. The British are very strict on such things, even Cybertruck on their roads they immediately confiscate, I guess surely they would have something to say about using the 12V lead acid battery in an EV.

If that American Yilong Mah has changed Tesla auxillary battery from 12V deep cycle battery to 16V deep cycle battery, surely ada batu di sebalik udang one. Now what was that kepala batu thinking about ? Hmmm ...

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: May 11 2025, 04:28 AM

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