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brian81st
post May 5 2025, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 5 2025, 01:08 PM)
TSMC's labor practices draw serious concern in Arizona — the company's new chip plant allegedly plagued by worker abuses
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/...y-worker-abuses

I don't think it will be a multi-generational workforce. Taiwan's birth rate also heading to 0.7.
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It is just how asian countries works. most of the asian countries has long working hours.

well, they have too, same as malaysia too. Japan, S korea, china, malaysia all has long working hours.

This is the main reason why asian countries can advance so fast.

TSMC is considered high paying jobs already, but the american still feels that it is slave like.

can not image if iphone move production to US, under foxconn.

low pay and long working hours, hmmm


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post May 5 2025, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 5 2025, 02:23 PM)
How you know the company won't charge the employees for all that? Many H-1B horror stories where supposedly the salary of the H-1B is the same as American worker, but then company charged them kao kao for rent so in reality the H-1B worker actually paid less than American worker.
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It is normal as migrant, the salary is a bit lower than local.

Anywhere local will get some preferential treatment benefits
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post May 5 2025, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(brian81st @ May 5 2025, 02:27 PM)
It is just how asian countries works. most of the asian countries has long working hours.

well, they have too, same as malaysia too. Japan, S korea, china, malaysia all has long working hours.

This is the main reason why asian countries can advance so fast.

TSMC is considered high paying jobs already, but the american still feels that it is slave like.

can not image if iphone move production to US, under foxconn.

low pay and long working hours, hmmm
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Deswai they move production to India. But last time got many riots in Indian factory. Indian slaves not as guai as Chinese slaves.
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post May 5 2025, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Robert @ May 5 2025, 02:28 PM)
It is normal as migrant, the salary is a bit lower than local.

Anywhere local will get some preferential treatment benefits
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diffyhelman2 last time you were paid less than your American colleagues?
loserguy
post May 5 2025, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(ShadowR1 @ May 5 2025, 12:43 PM)
For a moment I read Lunatic.
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Good cop, bad cop.
Bessent, Lutnick.

Ron Varra is the siao lang.
ycs
post May 5 2025, 02:47 PM

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ccp already moved on

Rusty Nail
post May 5 2025, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Robert @ May 5 2025, 02:21 PM)
Try look at the bright side.

House company provides.
Makan company provides
XMM company provides

Transport company provides

Saving on food, rent, transport

Such a good deal
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When foxcon does it, it's a concentration camp
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post May 5 2025, 02:51 PM

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now CCP is Dark factory, soon u mau 996 pon takra
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post May 5 2025, 02:56 PM

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Build big2 no woke muricans want to work menial wage as factory workers

Migrants sudah halau balik kampung pulak
brian81st
post May 5 2025, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 5 2025, 02:28 PM)
Deswai they move production to India. But last time got many riots in Indian factory. Indian slaves not as guai as Chinese slaves.
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but US wants the iphone production in US, as mentioned by lutnick.

they want the advance job, but TSMC is considered one of the most advance jobs in the industry, but they still complain.

actually this has cause some conflict with with taiwan employee too, coz they are also working in US but they had to work overtime to help other american employee job scope, while the american employee even if they work overtime, most of the time they dont do any productive work, due to being unhappy doing overtime.
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post May 5 2025, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 5 2025, 02:30 PM)
diffyhelman2 last time you were paid less than your American colleagues?
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no. thats illegal. most of the horror h1b stories involve bharat owned outsourcing contractors. but even legal h1b workers are disadvantaged compared to natives due to lack of mobility (harder to change jobs). thats the appeal of foreign labor everywhere including in malaysia (eg bangla workers and pinoy maids are prefered since they cant quit easily compared to locals).
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QUOTE(brian81st @ May 5 2025, 02:57 PM)
but US wants the iphone production in US, as mentioned by lutnick.

they want the advance job, but TSMC is considered one of the most advance jobs in the industry, but they still complain.

actually this has cause some conflict with with taiwan employee too, coz they are also working in US but they had to work overtime to help other american employee job scope, while the american employee even if they work overtime, most of the time they dont do any productive work, due to being unhappy doing overtime.
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In other words, work-life balance is a pipedream.
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post May 5 2025, 03:05 PM

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US mana boleh 996, even 995 pun susah liao
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QUOTE(brian81st @ May 5 2025, 02:57 PM)
but US wants the iphone production in US, as mentioned by lutnick.

they want the advance job, but TSMC is considered one of the most advance jobs in the industry, but they still complain.

actually this has cause some conflict with with taiwan employee too, coz they are also working in US but they had to work overtime to help other american employee job scope, while the american employee even if they work overtime, most of the time they dont do any productive work, due to being unhappy doing overtime.
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tsmc factory workforce in arizona at one time consisted almost half are taiwanese imports. then again this is during setup phase (another article mentioned a lot of installation work going on), long term mgmt there does not see this as sustainable.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tsmc-arizona...-202539724.html

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“We want to make this site a successful site and a sustainable site,” according to Richard Liu, director of employee communications and relations at the Arizona site. “Sustainable means that we cannot keep relying on Taiwan sending people here.”


This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: May 5 2025, 03:07 PM
jmas
post May 5 2025, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ May 5 2025, 02:48 PM)
When foxcon does it, it's a concentration camp
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but KK park do it, its a scam
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post May 5 2025, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 5 2025, 03:00 PM)
In other words, work-life balance is a pipedream.
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I think that's just overblown. US has 3 shift 24 hour plants for cars (so does europe) and wafer fabs from Intel too. its just a different way of management that would likely involve more workers and more shifts. of course there will be some efficiency loss during shift handover compared to the same guy grinding away at the problem until its fixed.
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post May 5 2025, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(jmas @ May 5 2025, 03:09 PM)
but KK park do it, its a scam
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What kind of logic is this?

Foxcon produce products that people want to buy.

KK Park scam you.
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post May 5 2025, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 5 2025, 03:05 PM)
US mana boleh 996, even 995 pun susah liao
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QUOTE(ycs @ May 5 2025, 02:47 PM)
ccp already moved on

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 5 2025, 03:10 PM)
I think that's just overblown. US has 3 shift 24 hour plants for cars (so does europe) and wafer fabs from Intel too. its just a different way of management that would likely involve more workers and more shifts. of course there will be some efficiency loss during shift handover compared to the same guy grinding away at the problem until its fixed.
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One fella say angmo cannot 996, another fella say Chinese factories all automated liao. Why China still have poor people? Fake Falungong videos?

600m with $140 monthly income worries top

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1189968.shtml

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_GLXGupktI

diffyhelman2
post May 5 2025, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 5 2025, 03:12 PM)
What kind of logic is this?

Foxcon produce products that people want to buy.

KK Park scam you.
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cuz wumao like to say iphone is scam
diffyhelman2
post May 5 2025, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 5 2025, 03:13 PM)
One fella say angmo cannot 996, another fella say Chinese factories all automated liao. Why China still have poor people? Fake Falungong videos?

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well let me remind those 996 fans, that other chinese glue love to say 996 is illegal according to labour laws in china.

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