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post May 3 2025, 09:31 PM, updated 8 months ago

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Actually Jipunis new gen situation roughly same as PRC new gen “lay flat” (躺平) phenomenon. Who copied who?

Don’t buy car/house
Zero desire to progress in career
Stay single (no gf, some entire life)
Low desire, just live out life as is.
Zero desire to marry or have kids.

Many of the criteria fits perfectly with Buddhism monk… innocent.gif


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post May 3 2025, 10:00 PM

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errmmm the term of neet and hikikimori has been there for ages no?
apa tiru lay flat?
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Overwork culture, we also heading the same direction
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 3 2025, 10:00 PM)
errmmm the term of neet and hikikimori has been there for ages no?
apa tiru lay flat?
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Quit different, neet just jobless

Lay flat more like doing bare minimum in everything
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post May 3 2025, 10:12 PM

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korean more extreme than jepunis and chinese
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The returns/gains is far too low for obscenely large amount of work.

Who wants to end up like their uncles having stroke at office at 11pm but only owning a small flat and a disgruntled wife and college-going kids ?

Looking at the economic conditions globally, the younger ones might end up getting a stroke at work minus the flat and wife and kids.

Why bother ? might as well keep it minimal and live as basic a life as your wage permits.

At least you live longer and happier, even without owning a house or a family of your own.

That's how the mental cope goes
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post May 3 2025, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ May 3 2025, 10:14 PM)
The returns/gains is far too low for obscenely large amount of work.

Who wants to end up like their uncles having stroke at office at 11pm but only owning a small flat and a disgruntled wife and college-going kids ?

Looking at the economic conditions globally, the younger ones might end up getting a stroke at work minus the flat and wife and kids.

Why bother ? might as well keep it minimal and live as basic a life as your wage permits.

At least you live longer and happier, even without owning a house or a family of your own.

That's how the mental cope goes
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Don’t think new gen wanna live longer, same like many ktards, just live long enough to enjoy, big no to the super old bed ridden “extended life/suffering”.
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many japanese will die soon and houses burnt or destroyed in the coming earthquake.


The estimates indicate the potentially devastating earthquake, with an 80 percent chance of occurring within 30 years, would result in approximately 298,000 fatalities and 2.35 million buildings collapsing in a worst-case scenario.

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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ May 3 2025, 10:09 PM)
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If u realize...and Muslims here hear me out

The trend of reducing population is quite common and obvious around the world. Pretty rapid in asian countries, particularly those which had rapid growth in the past ie Japan Korea and China. Western countries depopz much slower maybe coz they crazy.

Now u see, Malaysia isn't as bad more lax but nons pops are also reducing. All except Muslims, although there's a trend but it's very slow. I think most population if they are Muslims, confirm won't reduce population.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 3 2025, 09:31 PM)
Actually Jipunis new gen situation roughly same as PRC new gen “lay flat” (躺平) phenomenon. Who copied who?

Don’t buy car/house
Zero desire to progress in career
Stay single (no gf, some entire life)
Low desire, just live out life as is.
Zero desire to marry or have kids.

Many of the criteria fits perfectly with Buddhism monk…  innocent.gif


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Buddhism teaches you to be otaku, obsessed with gaming, anime, jav etc ?
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They are emulating Siddhartha Gautama in abandoning a lot of things!
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QUOTE(FappyBird @ May 3 2025, 10:37 PM)
If u realize...and Muslims here hear me out

The trend of reducing population is quite common and obvious around the world. Pretty rapid in asian countries, particularly those which had rapid growth in the past ie Japan Korea and China. Western countries depopz much slower maybe coz they crazy.

Now u see, Malaysia isn't as bad more lax but nons pops are also reducing. All except Muslims, although there's a trend but it's very slow. I think most population if they are Muslims, confirm won't reduce population.
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You wrong statically, malay population are going down too except for Kelantan, Terengganu and Pahang. The value of birth rate to maintain the population is 2.1

State Total Fertility Rate (TFR) - 2023
Johor 1.94
Kedah 2.03
Kelantan 2.66
Melaka 1.73
Negeri Sembilan 1.96
Pahang 2.10
Penang 1.25
Perak 1.66
Perlis 1.96
Sabah 1.33
Sarawak 1.53
Selangor 1.57
Terengganu 2.86
Kuala Lumpur 1.49
Labuan 1.50
Putrajaya 2.78

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QUOTE(FappyBird @ May 3 2025, 10:37 PM)
If u realize...and Muslims here hear me out

The trend of reducing population is quite common and obvious around the world. Pretty rapid in asian countries, particularly those which had rapid growth in the past ie Japan Korea and China. Western countries depopz much slower maybe coz they crazy.

Now u see, Malaysia isn't as bad more lax but nons pops are also reducing. All except Muslims, although there's a trend but it's very slow. I think most population if they are Muslims, confirm won't reduce population.
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wow i thought i over stereotypes, judging by your logic, turns out its true

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ayam in the same spot, other than hoping for better career progression. dont plan to marry, have kids, buy house etc. no point anyway. nowadays just do whatever makes me happy which is travel. i only save a little, the rest just splurge. im just lucky that i dont have debt.

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QUOTE(killdavid @ May 3 2025, 10:38 PM)
Buddhism teaches you to be otaku, obsessed with gaming, anime, jav etc ?
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Low desire, not breeding… pretty much like monk no?
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 3 2025, 09:31 PM)
Actually Jipunis new gen situation roughly same as PRC new gen “lay flat” (躺平) phenomenon. Who copied who?

Don’t buy car/house
Zero desire to progress in career
Stay single (no gf, some entire life)
Low desire, just live out life as is.
Zero desire to marry or have kids.

Many of the criteria fits perfectly with Buddhism monk…  innocent.gif


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Buddhist monks dont waste away their life like this.

Worldly materials are impermanent yet necessary to live effectively in this world. Thats a very big difference in “giving up” worldly matters. Different mentality.

Expanding Buddhism is a “career” itself.

Not married, no kids yet many monks bring up abandoned orphans.

Buddhist monks are many times more productive than “wasting life” away because of the concept of “precious human life”
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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ May 3 2025, 11:37 PM)
Buddhist monks dont waste away their life like this.

Worldly materials are impermanent yet necessary to live effectively in this world. Thats a very big difference in “giving up” worldly matters. Different mentality.

Expanding Buddhism is a “career” itself.

Not married, no kids yet many monks bring up abandoned orphans.

Buddhist monks are many times more productive than “wasting life” away because of the concept of “precious human life”
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With new gen not breeding, there would be less and less abandoned orphans. innocent.gif

Lay flat or low desire new gen still participate in real world economy that provide actual goods/services needed by society to survive. On the contrary, how are monks being more productive if they are not even part of any supply chain that keep the world alive? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 3 2025, 09:31 PM)
Actually Jipunis new gen situation roughly same as PRC new gen “lay flat” (躺平) phenomenon. Who copied who?

Don’t buy car/house
Zero desire to progress in career
Stay single (no gf, some entire life)
Low desire, just live out life as is.
Zero desire to marry or have kids.

Many of the criteria fits perfectly with Buddhism monk…  innocent.gif


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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ May 3 2025, 10:50 PM)
You wrong statically, malay population are going down too except for Kelantan, Terengganu and Pahang. The value of birth rate to maintain the population is 2.1

State Total Fertility Rate (TFR) - 2023
Johor 1.94
Kedah 2.03
Kelantan 2.66
Melaka 1.73
Negeri Sembilan 1.96
Pahang 2.10
Penang 1.25
Perak 1.66
Perlis 1.96
Sabah 1.33
Sarawak 1.53
Selangor 1.57
Terengganu 2.86
Kuala Lumpur 1.49
Labuan 1.50
Putrajaya 2.78
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Every state below replacement except Kelantan, Terengganu and Putrajaya. Even those 3 states below 3. Zaman football team is over.
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I practiced this already and im 40+
No wife kids no house no car
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QUOTE(FappyBird @ May 3 2025, 10:37 PM)
If u realize...and Muslims here hear me out

The trend of reducing population is quite common and obvious around the world. Pretty rapid in asian countries, particularly those which had rapid growth in the past ie Japan Korea and China. Western countries depopz much slower maybe coz they crazy.

Now u see, Malaysia isn't as bad more lax but nons pops are also reducing. All except Muslims, although there's a trend but it's very slow. I think most population if they are Muslims, confirm won't reduce population.
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no, accually western countries depop as much as other countries, thats why you see their immigration rules are getting lax in letting migrants in cover the losses
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QUOTE(Olgakureylenko @ May 4 2025, 12:58 AM)
I practiced this already and im 40+
No wife kids no house no car
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How about low desire? What desire u still gave in?
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This is a problem cuz it dosent drive the economy.
Same as old age population, cuz old ppl dosnrt spend as much.

Any living being reproduce when environments is good, vice versa.


Rich ppl think this is a problem because it directly affects their bottom line
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debt based economy. over leveraged and assets over inflated until even with more debt also people don't want to buy anymore.

sarahan siapa?
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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ May 3 2025, 10:50 PM)
You wrong statically, malay population are going down too except for Kelantan, Terengganu and Pahang. The value of birth rate to maintain the population is 2.1

State Total Fertility Rate (TFR) - 2023
Johor 1.94
Kedah 2.03
Kelantan 2.66
Melaka 1.73
Negeri Sembilan 1.96
Pahang 2.10
Penang 1.25
Perak 1.66
Perlis 1.96
Sabah 1.33
Sarawak 1.53
Selangor 1.57
Terengganu 2.86
Kuala Lumpur 1.49
Labuan 1.50
Putrajaya 2.78
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Make it from highest to lowest bro
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QUOTE(lagenda110 @ May 4 2025, 02:43 AM)
Make it from highest to lowest bro
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Sure, here the clean up data:
State Total Fertility Rate (TFR) - 2023
Terengganu 2.86
Putrajaya 2.78
Kelantan 2.66
Pahang 2.10
Kedah 2.03
Negeri Sembilan 1.96
Perlis 1.96
Johor 1.94
Melaka 1.73
Perak 1.66
Selangor 1.57
Sarawak 1.53
Labuan 1.50
Kuala Lumpur 1.49
Sabah 1.33
Penang 1.25


Total Fertility Rate (TFR) by Ethnic Group (2010–2023)

Year Malay TFR Chinese TFR Indian TFR Total TFR
2010 2.695 1.517 1.733 2.136
2015 2.553 1.353 1.361 1.941
2020 2.192 0.981 1.177 1.715
2022 2.066 0.787 1.076 1.631
2023 2.200 *n/a* *n/a* 1.700

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This is called just existing.

By 2030, alot Ketatz will be like that...
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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ May 4 2025, 02:52 AM)
Sure, here the clean up data:
State Total Fertility Rate (TFR) - 2023
Terengganu 2.86
Putrajaya 2.78
Kelantan 2.66
Pahang 2.10
Kedah 2.03
Negeri Sembilan 1.96
Perlis 1.96
Johor 1.94
Melaka 1.73
Perak 1.66
Selangor 1.57
Sarawak 1.53
Labuan 1.50
Kuala Lumpur 1.49
Sabah 1.33
Penang 1.25
Total Fertility Rate (TFR) by Ethnic Group (2010–2023)

Year Malay TFR Chinese TFR Indian TFR Total TFR
2010 2.695 1.517 1.733 2.136
2015 2.553 1.353 1.361 1.941
2020 2.192 0.981 1.177 1.715
2022 2.066 0.787 1.076 1.631
2023 2.200 *n/a* *n/a* 1.700
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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ May 4 2025, 03:52 AM)
Sure, here the clean up data:
State Total Fertility Rate (TFR) - 2023
Terengganu 2.86
Putrajaya 2.78
Kelantan 2.66
Pahang 2.10
Kedah 2.03
Negeri Sembilan 1.96
Perlis 1.96
Johor 1.94
Melaka 1.73
Perak 1.66
Selangor 1.57
Sarawak 1.53
Labuan 1.50
Kuala Lumpur 1.49
Sabah 1.33
Penang 1.25
Total Fertility Rate (TFR) by Ethnic Group (2010–2023)

Year Malay TFR Chinese TFR Indian TFR Total TFR
2010 2.695 1.517 1.733 2.136
2015 2.553 1.353 1.361 1.941
2020 2.192 0.981 1.177 1.715
2022 2.066 0.787 1.076 1.631
2023 2.200 *n/a* *n/a* 1.700
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One thing is definitely lesser eligible tax paying people.

To make up of that, more tax for you tax paying people now.

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I think its the same in most country no?

younger generation giving the middle finger to the establishment. yolo. aka just work as grab or food panda..
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Mr google says

Humanity has a 95% probability of being extinct in 7,800,000 years,


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try hard also useless, system is rigged
better just live flat out like that
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ May 4 2025, 07:45 AM)
try hard also useless, system is rigged
better just live flat out like that
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Any country that is efficient is slowly heading in that direction, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, and China.

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QUOTE(smsid @ May 4 2025, 07:56 AM)
Any country that is efficient is slowly heading in that direction, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, and China.
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productivity just enrich the top, more and more people realize this and stopped caring
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QUOTE(new in IT @ May 4 2025, 05:15 AM)
One thing is definitely lesser eligible tax paying people.

To make up of that, more tax for you tax paying people now.
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Jokes on the govt when ktards retire early and stop contributing income tax icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(katijar @ May 4 2025, 07:24 AM)
Mr google says

Humanity has a 95% probability of being extinct in 7,800,000 years,
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Mr Google manipulated by AI, deliberately ignore the uprising of AI and robots by next 50 years innocent.gif
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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ May 4 2025, 01:07 AM)
debt based economy. over leveraged and assets over inflated until even with more debt also people don't want to buy anymore.

sarahan siapa?
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crazy world we are living now. imagine kid without proof of income can get easy loan via BNPL.
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QUOTE(new in IT @ May 4 2025, 05:15 AM)
One thing is definitely lesser eligible tax paying people.

To make up of that, more tax for you tax paying people now.
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as long u stay in malaysia, u are paying tax indirectly. consumption tax.

unless u are off grid, everything also u DIY then lain cerita
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 4 2025, 08:51 AM)
as long u stay in malaysia, u are paying tax indirectly. consumption tax.

unless u are off grid, everything also u DIY then lain cerita
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Definitely paying much less taxes if one chose low desire, lay flat lifestyle.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 4 2025, 08:49 AM)
crazy world we are living now. imagine kid without proof of income can get easy loan via BNPL.
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Their goal is to get you to buy. Actually the gen z are smart not to fall into that trap.
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How about low desire? What desire u still gave in?
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Job for life with bonus increment and promotion is no longer guaranteed. Schools also all teaching jobs for 20th century.

Current generation of leaders all career politicians. No will to change the system for the better.

We have failed our young people losing hope become doomers.
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